The Most Overrated Team in the NFL is...

[Sonny#9]

Actually, the Commanders got healthy while the Cowboys continued to hemhorrage LBs...

but spin it however you want.

You obviously have...

 

[superpunk]

You obviously have...

Telling the truth, as opposed to some fairy tale about "having heart" - is spin?

Guess again Norman....

 

[Eddie]

Actually, the Commanders got healthy while the Cowboys continued to hemhorrage LBs...

but spin it however you want.

We sound like we're making excuses. Injuries are part of the game. Every team faces them.

The bottom line, the Skins swept us, and beat us soundly with the playoffs on the line for us.

BP called it ... we are what we are. We're a 9-7 team.

Skins did what we couldn't in 9 years ... win a playoff game.

Diminishing their accomplishments does nothing to raise the lack of ours.

Skins fans made excuses for 10 years on why they couldn't beat us ... injuries, poor officiating, dropped balls, blown this, blown that.

Are we the ones making excuses now?

 

[superpunk]

We sound like we're making excuses. Injuries are part of the game. Every team faces them.

The bottom line, the Skins swept us, and beat us soundly with the playoffs on the line for us.

BP called it ... we are what we are. We're a 9-7 team.

Skins did what we couldn't in 9 years ... win a playoff game.

Diminishing their accomplishments does nothing to raise the lack of ours.

Skins fans made excuses for 10 years on why they couldn't beat us ... injuries, poor officiating, dropped balls, blown this, blown that.

Are we the ones making excuses now?

I could care less what you call it. The team was devastated by injuries at that point. If that's an excuse, so be it. Some of us realize that there are reasons that things happen, and that those reasons are not excuses. The Skins slumped early because Griffin and Springs were hurt. Is that a reason, or an excuse? Seems like a reason, to me - because they were obviously better than they played during that stretch.

Just don't feed me some bull about having heart, or not.

 

[Alexander]

Skins fans made excuses for 10 years on why they couldn't beat us ... injuries, poor officiating, dropped balls, blown this, blown that.

Are we the ones making excuses now?

Speaking personally, no.

We had our opportunities to make the playoffs and we couldn't win the big games down the stretch.

Injuries aren't an excuse because all teams have them. It was our responsibility to have adequate depth. We appeared to have something close to it at linebacker. We got caught with our pants down at offensive tackle which was more crucial. There was no excuse depending on Rogers to win the job and then after he went down not trying something other than cross our fingers with an out of shape and depleted Petitti and especially relying on Tucker as our backup left tackle. I still think the Vollers situation hurt us more than we wanted to admit.

Kicker? I am sure that's the en vogue excuse, but the point is we didn't take enough risks offensively to try to avoid putting the bad kickers into tense situations where a FG wins or loses the contest.

Excuses are for losers. I don't subscribe to the idea that with better luck or something we win twelve games. You make you own luck by covering your butt with depth and quality. And it looks like we did that this past offseason.

 

[Sonny#9]

Telling the truth, as opposed to some fairy tale about "having heart" - is spin?

Guess again Norman....

Hows this: your line was awful last year and you signed a bunch of 30-somethings on the dowside of their careers.

Winning 5 in a row doesn't display "heart"? Like you wouldn't championing that word all over the place if the Cowboys had done it.

 

[superpunk]

Hows this: your line was awful last year and you signed a bunch of 30-somethings on the dowside of their careers.

Winning 5 in a row doesn't display "heart"? Like you wouldn't championing that word all over the place if the Cowboys had done it.

No, I wouldn't.

And I wouldn't be shredding the Commanders for a lack of heart if they had obviously been destroyed by injuries and finished the year like crap - lord knows I didn't say that about the Eagles or Giants in their playoff game. Even a blind monkey would know that more went into those failures than just a lack of "heart."

But enjoy fairy-land. I'm sure it's wonderful. Let us know when you get back.

 

[Sonny#9]

No, I wouldn't.

And I wouldn't be shredding the Commanders for a lack of heart if they had obviously been destroyed by injuries and finished the year like crap - lord knows I didn't say that about the Eagles or Giants in their playoff game. Even a blind monkey would know that more went into those failures than just a lack of "heart."

But enjoy fairy-land. I'm sure it's wonderful. Let us know when you get back.

Ok, so enlighten me, when they were 7-3, and in great position to make the playoffs - who got hurt that killed their season?

 

[superpunk]

Ok, so enlighten me, when they were 7-3, and in great position to make the playoffs - who got hurt that killed their season?

Flozell Adams was already hurt - our offense had been declining since his injury four weeks prior.

Dat Nguyen and Al Singleton - our entire right side of LBs, out. Dat had a little run back late, but he was a non-factor, save for calling out "shovel" lol...

Anthony Henry was hampered the rest of the year with his groin injury - sporadically missing games, and being half there the games he was in.

Rivera was off since the offseason with his back.

Patrick Crayton, JJ, take your pick - the list kept getting bigger.

I guess if they had more heart, they could have prevented such injuries...

 

[Sonny#9]

Flozell Adams was already hurt - our offense had been declining since his injury four weeks prior.

Dat Nguyen and Al Singleton - our entire right side of LBs, out. Dat had a little run back late, but he was a non-factor, save for calling out "shovel" lol...

Anthony Henry was hampered the rest of the year with his groin injury - sporadically missing games, and being half there the games he was in.

Rivera was off since the offseason with his back.

Patrick Crayton, JJ, take your pick - the list kept getting bigger.

I guess if they had more heart, they could have prevented such injuries...

They were able to compile a 7-3 record w/o flo and Rivera. Were they not?

Springs, Griffin, Rogers, Jansen were all hurt for the Commanders. They started Walt Harris and Warrick Holdman for crying out loud.

So you are contend that it was injuries and not poor play that doomed the Cowboys (despite sitting at a 7-3 record with many of the aforementioned injuries?)

 

[superpunk]

So you are contend that it was injuries and not poor play that doomed the Cowboys (despite sitting at a 7-3 record with many of the aforementioned injuries?)

Yeah - it's always one thing OR another. It can never be a combination, huh? Try looking past your nose once in a while...if you have the "heart."

 

[The30YardSlant]

I would say the most overrated team is the Commanders, but the media (and everyone else but their own fanbase, for that matter) is finally seeing through Danny boy's extravagent spending and not hopping on the bandwagon every offseason after another round of vast overspending. Hardly anyone is picking them to win the division like they were in the early 2000s when Danny started doing this.

So I'd say the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It's a miracle they made the playoffs last year.

 

[BigDFan5]

Alright "Troll Slayer" your turn to try reading: My point is even thinking Bledsoe is one of the best QBs in the league is absurd - which is exactly what was written. I am not here saying Brunnel was one of the best, even though they had similar numbers. Come on, now.

Facts must be absurd then. The exact words were "Bledsoe was one of the NFL's best QBs when Flo was in the lineup, so yeah" Now you go back to the first 6-7 games last year and look at the QB Rating, TD to INT ration yards and wins and tell me how many QBs were better at thbat point?

That's pretty optimistic considering you added a mediocre guard in Kosier. Fabini was let go from the Jets for performance reasons according to the Jets camp. And you still don't know how Flo's knee is going to hold up. I will grant you if it does - he is a big boost. But it's a question mark, is it not?

Kosier gave up 4 sacks last year did he get worse just because Dallas signed him? Be honest you probably seen 2 games and a video clip on kosier right?

Jason Fabini was released because of the cap, Jets were 26 milion OVER the cap, they cut him as well as like 4 other players all the same day.

OK that was funny, like you weren't red-faced-p.o.-ed.

Red face PO'ed? No not at all. I was upset at losing like I am any game, but thats expected.

Yes - they were 7-3 and finished 2-4. The Commanders were 5-6 and finished 5-0. Which do you call showing heart and which to you call quitting?

Again, the Commanders showed heart last year when the Cowboys quit. That is the BIGGEST reason for my optimism.

You think losing OLineman, half our LB's, our starting RB, and our starting RCB might have had something to do with the record? Redwskins stayed healthy, Cowboys didn't Yet 2 FGs would have still put us in the playoffs.

 

[BigDFan5]

Hows this: your line was awful last year

Luckilty we improved it.

and you signed a bunch of 30-somethings on the dowside of their careers.

a bunch? TO is on the downside? Fabini is the only 30 something we sined that will start and may be on his downside.

Winning 5 in a row doesn't display "heart"? Like you wouldn't championing that word all over the place if the Cowboys had done it.

Winning 5 is a great accomplishment but has nothing to do with heart, 3 of those games should have been won by any team that is supposed to be good. Looking at it a good team should have gotten it done, and they did.

 

[BigDFan5]

They were able to compile a 7-3 record w/o flo and Rivera. Were they not?

4-2 with Flozell and our offense dropped starting week 7, we lost to seattle scoring 10 points, we beat a buried Eagles by 1, and then we beat Cards and Lions which any decent team should beat.

Springs, Griffin, Rogers, Jansen were all hurt for the Commanders. They started Walt Harris and Warrick Holdman for crying out loud.

Jansen started 16 games, other than that the others missed 1-3 games uaually at different times. We are talking about the Cowboys being without all those positions for the season. Starting RB, starting RCB, LT, ROLB, LILB, #3 WR ALL gone for long stretches, and at the same time. There is a huge difference

So you are contend that it was injuries and not poor play that doomed the Cowboys (despite sitting at a 7-3 record with many of the aforementioned injuries?

It was poor play in which the injuries were a major contributor.

 

[BeWare94]

the New England Patriots!!!

There was an earlier thread about the most overrated coach in the NFL being Bill Bilichick. Part II of that thread focuses on the Patriots as a team. For the last 5 years, most prognosticators have picked the Patriots to win the SuperBowl and with good reason. They won 3 out of 4 SuperBowls while tying the same mark held by our beloved Cowboys.

Currently, the Patriots are a much different team than they were during their Superbowl run. Sure, they still have Tom Brady who is an above average QB, but he is also overrated. However, they have lost the prolific coaching staff that Bilichick inherited from Bill Parcells. They have also lost several of their star players and veteran leaders including Ty Law, Willie McGinist, and Adam Vinatieri.

In my humble opinion, Vinatieri was their true MVP, not Brady. It was Vinatieri who kicked the winning field goal in several of their playoff and SuperBowl victories because Brady couldn't lead them into the endzone. And what do the Patriots do this offseason but let him walk right into the waiting arms of their chief rival, the Colts.

I said it here last year and I'm saying it again this year: Stick a fork in the Patriots because they are DONE!! Every year they fail to make a deep run in the playoffs will only futher underscore how much Parcells contributed to Bilichick's success. That means the Cowboys will play the Colts in the SuperBowl baby!!

There's a reason they are overrated...they won three of the last five Super Bowls!!! They went deep into the playoffs last season and will probably be back since the main stumbling block in their way was injuries and an up and down Bronco team and a Steeler team that is more Super Fraud than Super Bowl Champion.

 

[wiccgypsy1]

honestly.,..i would have to say the most overrated team is....us. Almost everyone has us as being favorites in the NFC but we didn't even win our division last year. We have been making some nice moves in the offseason and I like our chances but we haven't done anything, yet. I'm optimistic of our chances but we have a tough schedule and a lot of good teams in our own division. Please don't flame me... just being honest.. GO COWBOYS!!!

 

[BeWare94]

The guy went a little voerboard on the BRady angle, but seriously, he's talking about THIS year, people. Not the past 5. he's talking about how different they are than they were for their run - and I agree. The playmakers are all but gone, their LB corps get thinner and thinner with no replacements, the secondary doesn't improve.....they keep getting worse.

That all remains to be seen. We havent played a single down yet this season. They could win the AFC again next year for all I (or you) know.

 

[Sonny#9]

Yeah - it's always one thing OR another. It can never be a combination, huh? Try looking past your nose once in a while...if you have the "heart."

Yet you're the one crying a river about injuries this and injuries that. Try and accept the fact that your team were primed for the playoffs and failed utterly. There is NO excuse for getting thrashed by a division rival 35-7 with the playoffs on the line. Injuries or no, there is NO excuse for that kind of play. None.

For years I have had to listen to Cowboy fans run their mouths, now the shoe is on the other foot.

Keep the excuses coming, sour grapes definitely suits you.

 

[superpunk]

Yet you're the one crying a river about injuries this and injuries that. Try and accept the fact that your team were primed for the playoffs and failed utterly. There is NO excuse for getting thrashed by a division rival 35-7 with the playoffs on the line. Injuries or no, there is NO excuse for that kind of play. None.

For years I have had to listen to Cowboy fans run their mouths, now the shoe is on the other foot.

Keep the excuses coming, sour grapes definitely suits you.

Are you dense - or just stupid?

Or is it both?

See how it doesn't have to be ONE, or the OTHER?

So please, keep your bogus, unwarranted praise of your team's amazing "heart" to yourself -- and realize that you can indeed be dense, AND stupid. And you appear to have perfected both. But if you would like to continue beating this dead horse, for absolutely no apparent reason, you may of course do that. I'm incredibly amused....