The narrative that we should have paid players sooner?

[shabazz]

A QB is like the CEO of a company who makes many times more than an office worker. They're both employees of the company, but employees have different values.

Great point. And like a failed CEO that still gets his golden parachute, some failed QBs get the remainder of their guaranteed contract.....many similarities

 

[kskboys]

The owners can remedy this themselves. They just have to be willing to take a step back now and then. I don't blame teams from signing their rookie if they show some talent. But end it after that second contract unless the QB is elite.

Here's the contract given to Lawrence.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/72380/trevor-lawrence

The percentage cap hits they provide are projections past 2 years. But if those numbers can be believed, they can move on from him after the 2028 season, while remaining competitive up until that point. But if he's not an elite QB, you can't give him another contract beyond that point. The money left over is ridiculous.

This is the situation we have with Dak. But they're going to pay him.

Since there's only maybe 3 elite QB's in the NFL at any given time, what you're proposing is none of the others ever get a 2nd contract from the team drafting them.

 

[Bobhaze]

What NFL players get paid past their rookie contracts are based on simple economics. They are paid what the market dictates. What we learned in basic economics classes - SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

Take QBs for example. They are vastly overpaid because the supply of good QBs is very low, but the demand for them is very high. Therefore, the market dictates them being paid the highest salaries because of market demand and the scarce supply.

Many fans think players should be paid on performance only but that’s only part of the salary equation in pro sports. Performance numbers matter of course. But the supply and demand part does even more. There are certain positions where the demand is high and the supply of good players (I didn’t say great players) is low. Like QB, LT, Edge rushers, WR to a certain degree.

What NFL teams pay players will always come down to Economics 101: Supply and demand.

 

[kskboys]

What NFL players get paid past their rookie contracts are based on simple economics. They are paid what the market dictates. What we learned in basic economics classes - SUPPLY AND DEMAND.

Take QBs for example. They are vastly overpaid because the supply of good QBs is very low, but the demand for them is very high. Therefore, the market dictates them being paid the highest salaries because of market demand and the scarce supply.

Many fans think players should be paid on performance only but that’s only part of the salary equation in pro sports. Performance numbers matter of course. But the supply and demand part does even more. There are certain positions where the demand is high and the supply of good players (I didn’t say great players) is low. Like QB, LT, Edge rushers, WR to a certain degree.

What NFL teams pay players will always come down to Economics 101: Supply and demand.

And then add in that no other position has the dropoff for the entire team that not having a good QB has. It's huge.

 

[Reid1boys]

.....is a silly narrative. Really doesn't make any sense. Unless the player is agreeing to a much reduced contract, it's almost irrelevant.

The ones who are reasonable, Diggs for example, do sign early.

Silly? There are two things to consider.

1) You can not sign someone who will not sign. Lamb and Dak were NEVER signing an early deal. Well Dak would have, if he were given the 60 million per that he wants. You cant sign a player that wont sign.

2) look around the league..... T Hill, AJ Brown.........both immediately went to their teams demanding more money when other, "lesser" wrs got bigger deals.

yea, Diggs signed "early," lets see if he plays out the entire deal without demanding more money.

 

[kskboys]

Silly? There are two things to consider.

1) You can not sign someone who will not sign. Lamb and Dak were NEVER signing an early deal. Well Dak would have, if he were given the 60 million per that he wants. You cant sign a player that wont sign.

2) look around the league..... T Hill, AJ Brown.........both immediately went to their teams demanding more money when other, "lesser" wrs got bigger deals.

yea, Diggs signed "early," lets see if he plays out the entire deal without demanding more money.

OK, that's a riot, you questioned my "silly" moniker, and then backed it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Flamma]

Since there's only maybe 3 elite QB's in the NFL at any given time, what you're proposing is none of the others ever get a 2nd contract from the team drafting them.

No. They get a rookie contract. They get a second contract. But when you're pushing so much money to the future, unless that QB is elite, you can't give them a 3rd contract. You're not winning anything. The cap hits are far too restrictive.

With Dak, we're not winning anything giving him 55M a year + 95M to the cap. We're just waiting for him to retire.