The nerve is officially firing***merged***

[Stash]

The team just had their pre-draft press conference and there was a lot of talk regarding Jaylon Smith and that nerve firing. All of it positive news. Jerry mentioned significant improvement over three, three- week periods. So it sounds like things are really starting to happen on that front. And Jerry also said it's not a given that he will have to play with the brace at this point. He may not need it by the time training camp and the season starts.

 

[Trouty]

The team just had their pre-draft press conference and there was a lot of talk regarding Jaylon Smith and that nerve firing. All of it positive news. Jerry mentioned significant improvement over three, three- week periods. So it sounds like things are really starting to happen on that front. And Jerry also said it's not a given that he will have to play with the brace at this point. He may not need it by the time training camp and the season starts.

He also acknowledged the toe movement, Stash. Begrudgingly lol

 

[AzorAhai]

Fair enough. I didn't mean to question your stance on Jaylon. Just trying to see who these folks who want him to fail are. I've never seen one.

I didn't like the pick and would change it today if I could. Today's news is different, because it's a concrete example of improvement. But there have been plenty of articles with blatant speculation and a distinct lack of substance. It's perfectly reasonable not to put stock in them. It's perfectly reasonable, even, to not get your hopes up today. We still don't know if he'll ever have any more control over his foot that he does this very second. All we can do is cross our fingers. Some will be more eager than others to get their hopes up--and that's okay. Niether side should be bashing the other for that.

I actually agree. It's not the skepticism that is tiresome. If anything, that's warranted. It just seems like regardless of what the actual news is, a handful of people will respond in the same manner. Equally on both extremes of the spectrum as well which is just as annoying sometimes.

Anyways, I've got to go so have a nice day.

 

[Stash]

He also acknowledged the toe movement, Stash. Begrudgingly lol

Yeah, all good news on that front. It seems that everyone's patience (outside of fans) is paying off.

 

[Plankton]

I beg to differ.

You do realize that he had 4.5 sacks in 3 seasons, right? Showing highlights that have the first 2 minutes of it as practice footage doesn't prove what you think it does.

Smith's value is as a 3 down linebacker who works well in space, not as a pass rusher. War daddy, he isn't.

 

[Plankton]

What? There's literally highlights of it

There are highlights of everything - I watched every game the guy played in at Notre Dame. Smith's value is not in being a pass rusher - it's as a run and chase guy who is great in space at running down plays and covering RBs well.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I need a trampoline video with him on it barefoot for confirmation.

I find it funny that it burns you when I end up being right.

 

[Sydla]

You do realize that he had 4.5 sacks in 3 seasons, right? Showing highlights that have the first 2 minutes of it as practice footage doesn't prove what you think it does.

Smith's value is as a 3 down linebacker who works well in space, not as a pass rusher. War daddy, he isn't.

In fairness, he wasn't asked to blitz a whole lot at ND.

I have little doubt he could be a very good pass rusher if blitzed a lot (which in fairness we don't do) or was a 3-4 rush end like a Von Miller.

 

[ConceptCoop]

You do realize that he had 4.5 sacks in 3 seasons, right? Showing highlights that have the first 2 minutes of it as practice footage doesn't prove what you think it does.

Smith's value is as a 3 down linebacker who works well in space, not as a pass rusher. War daddy, he isn't.

Agree. No offense to anyone, but I'm surprised this is even a debate.

 

[darthseinfeld]

You do realize that he had 4.5 sacks in 3 seasons, right? Showing highlights that have the first 2 minutes of it as practice footage doesn't prove what you think it does.

Smith's value is as a 3 down linebacker who works well in space, not as a pass rusher. War daddy, he isn't.

I never understood peoples belief Smith would be a "pass rusher" other then blitzer

Smiths real value is his sideline to sideline ability and range he would give the back end on passing downs

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You do realize that he had 4.5 sacks in 3 seasons, right? Showing highlights that have the first 2 minutes of it as practice footage doesn't prove what you think it does.

Smith's value is as a 3 down linebacker who works well in space, not as a pass rusher. War daddy, he isn't.

While agree that he is hardly a proven pass rusher it is clear from the practice footage that he has excellent balance, hands, and lean to pass rush. Compare and contrast with what you see from say Hitchens when he blitzes.

ND did not use him like that. In that there is no question but the footage is intriguing to me.

 

[darthseinfeld]

In fairness, he wasn't asked to blitz a whole lot at ND.

I have little doubt he could be a very good pass rusher if blitzed a lot (which in fairness we don't do) or was a 3-4 rush end like a Von Miller.

Im sure he can blitz effectively. But I veiw blitizing and rushing the passer as different. He isnt someone whose hand we are sticking in the dirt

 

[ConceptCoop]

In fairness, he wasn't asked to blitz a whole lot at ND.

I have little doubt he could be a very good pass rusher if blitzed a lot (which in fairness we don't do) or was a 3-4 rush end like a Von Miller.

What do you base this on? And would you really want your lean 230 pound LB taking on 310 guards with any regularity? Seems like a huge waste to me, even if he could do an okay job, which is far from a given.

 

[Zekeats]

can I change my user name to Jaylon's Nerve?

Jaylons got nerve is better

 

[Alexander]

I find it funny that it burns you when I end up being right.

Don't flatter yourself. I have no dog in the fight, just amused at the back and forth.

 

[MonsterD]

 

[Irvin88_4life]

How about in this one thread? You made the claim. I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from. To be honest, it kind of sounds like you're lashing out at anyone who isn't as optimistic as you. Hence my comment on boths sides of the debate doing the same thing.

OK well read through the comments on this post and you will see. Nobody is lashing out but anytime someone said something positive about Jaylon others "lashed" out. Don't believe ask fuzzy what some said to him

 

[Sydla]

What do you base this one? And would you really want your lean 230 pound LB taking on 310 guards with any regularity? Seems like a huge waste to me, even if he could do an okay job, which feels like a longshot to me.

Based on having seen him play extensively in college.

For one, I am not suggesting he should be a DE or anything like that. All I am saying if used as a blitzer in a scheme that was uber aggressive at attacking the QB with LBs, or a 3-4 OLB, I believe he'd be very effective. We probably won't use him like that since we don't use our LBs like that but let's say that during the year our defense is still struggling to get to the QB and Marinelli decides to bring more heat with his LBs............. I think Smith, if healthy, could be excellent at getting after the QB.

 

[diefree666]

Fair enough. I didn't mean to question your stance on Jaylon. Just trying to see who these folks who want him to fail are. I've never seen one.

I didn't like the pick and would change it today if I could. Today's news is different, because it's a concrete example of improvement. But there have been plenty of articles with blatant speculation and a distinct lack of substance. It's perfectly reasonable not to put stock in them. It's perfectly reasonable, even, to not get your hopes up today. We still don't know if he'll ever have any more control over his foot that he does this very second. All we can do is cross our fingers. Some will be more eager than others to get their hopes up--and that's okay. Niether side should be bashing the other for that.

you have a very optimistic view of humanity. Just browse some of the old Romo threads for an education.

 

[darthseinfeld]

While agree that he is hardly a proven pass rusher it is clear from the practice footage that he has excellent balance, hands, and lean to pass rush. Compare and contrast with what you see from say Hitchens when he blitzes.

ND did not use him like that. In that there is no question but the footage is intriguing to me.

I think it would be a waste of his skills here personally. In a 3-4 base it would be different as you could line him up all over and confuse offenses of you develope those rushing traits. But in our scheme I think his value is more as a true LB that can cover large portions of the field. The blitzing skills are there enough for him to be dangerous when we call for it.

But as far pass rushers, Id prefer we stick to developing defensive ends for that and use Jaylon in more of an Urlacher mold

Or Brooks. Depending on where they intend to play him. He fits well at Mike and Will IMO