The New Draft Format...Your Honest Opinion

[theogt]

How could anybody embrace a scheme based solely on greed?

Is this a trick question?

 

[bbgun]

Is this a trick question?

Nope. Nor it is posed to the league, ESPN, or the owners. We already know what their motivation is.

 

[theogt]

Nope. Nor it is posed to the league, ESPN, or the owners. We already know what their motivation is.

Capitalism = BAD.

 

[Hailmary]

I think it will. That is one reason I don't mind the change. Players can be involved. You see some of it to start day 2 now. But 2 days to work trades would be intense.

I think it will too, for which I'm pretty psyched about.

But on the flipside, I also wonder if it'll hurt teams like us (those that have had so much success drafting in the later rounds). An additional day of player research may help those that traditionally have had poor track records in the later rounds.

 

[bbgun]

Capitalism = BAD.

Yeah, that's what I said. Better than the alternatives, but sometimes it's ruthless. Just don't pretend they're doing the fans any favors.

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

IMO, I like the new format. Build up to the draft is like a mini-series trailer. The analysts will tell you what they think about the needs/wants/desires of each team. Everyone will chime in with their analysis of the analysts, much like people talk about movie trailers.

The 1st day will set the tone and is really what most people look forward to ... how many players will fall in the and what teams will reach for players that could've been taken in later rounds. However, the excitement will make people want to come back the second day.

Day 2 will also be an interesting day as many players are selected in the 2nd and 3rd rounds who end up being stellar performers.

While Day 3 consists mostly of trades and head-scratching picks, the 4th round will also be one that has people's interest because, again, quality players can be had on the cheap. And, everyone wants to know who Mr. Irrelevant is. Right?

 

[theogt]

Yeah, that's what I said. Better than the alternatives, but sometimes it's ruthless. Just don't pretend they're doing the fans any favors.

The only way it makes more sense for the NFL is if it means more people watch. If more people watch, how is that not doing something for the fans?

The intent is always to make more money. But you make more money by providing a better service or product.

And by the way, it's not what you said, but it certainly is a logical application of what you said.

 

[Randy White]

since 1983, I'm not going to like the new format.

Yes, I know the old format became tedious and boring for the casual fan, but the simplest way to fix that was to cut down the times of selection for each round. 10 minutes for the 1st round, 5 minutes for the 2nd round, 3 minutes for each round after that.

It would affect the trades somewhat, but in reality, most trades are consumated before the team's turn is up anyways.

The first day, you'd have the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounds. That would approximately take rouhgly 8 hours. Start the draft at 8:00 am and by 4 to 5pm it's done. The 2nd day would consist of the remaining rounds, which would take approx 4 hours. Start at noon, done by roughly 4-5 pm.

Eliminate most of constant breakways to players interviews ( I haven't heard anything interesting from a player during those days in all the years that I've seen the draft ). Eliminate at least HALF the so called " experts ", and I'm talking about former players who think they are GMs. Have two hosts for the first day, so each can have 1 four hour shift. Have 3 analysts/draft experts ( Kiper, McShay, Scouts INc/ at the most, for the entire day . Have 3 former players MAXIMUM on a rotation for the entire day, plus the the different reporters the usual team sights, with Mortensen and Adam rotating in and out throught the day.

As for team sight reporters, cut down on coaches and NFL Gm's interviews. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING INTERESTING OR NEW. . It's the same crap all the time " well, we've targeted Jose the kicker from the biginning ".. blah, blah, blah..

BS.

Use that time to get Mort and Adam's pieces in instead.

On the 2nd day, cut that entire crew by half or their times by half to 3/4th. The draft is much quicker and the players are less known.

The Draft is for the hardcore fan. The casual fan doesn't know what's going most of the time and usually after the first few picks, he/she loses interest. They can still make money from it, only the targeted audience would stay tuned longer because it's a passion for us..

It's gotten boring and boring more each year because of the constant windbagging, cut to this, cut to that, crap that they put out there, especially BSPN. That's why when draft day comes along, I flip between the NFL network and BSPN, while listening to The Ticket on the net, and surffing the different chat boards.. I can't stand all this opinions coming from everywhere and most of them don't even make sense.

 

[Randy White]

The intent is always to make more money. But you make more money by providing a better service or product.

 

[Hostile]

Gordon Gekko: Teldar Paper, Mr. Cromwell, Teldar Paper has 33 different vice presidents each earning over 200 thousand dollars a year. Now, I have spent the last two months analyzing what all these guys do, and I still can't figure it out. One thing I do know is that our paper company lost 110 million dollars last year, and I'll bet that half of that was spent in all the paperwork going back and forth between all these vice presidents. The new law of evolution in corporate America seems to be survival of the unfittest. Well, in my book you either do it right or you get eliminated. In the last seven deals that I've been involved with, there were 2.5 million stockholders who have made a pretax profit of 12 billion dollars. Thank you. I am not a destroyer of companies. I am a liberator of them! The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you very much.

 

[bbgun]

The only way it makes more sense for the NFL is if it means more people watch. If more people watch, how is that not doing something for the fans?

More people to watch? Um, the draft has been huge for decades now. The league isn't some fledgling enterprise that needs to create some "buzz" to draw in new recruits. Once upon a time, an entire Saturday was set aside so that the fans could devote their full attention to the draft without worrying about work the next day or other distractions. Then they moved the latter half to Sunday. Now we've moved the whole circus back to Thursday night, which is a work night for most people. And Friday night is when most people (yes, even draftniks) like to go out. Not anymore, apparently. Who asked for all of this? Not the fans.

The intent is always to make more money. But you make more money by providing a better service or product.

Oh please. They're trying to take advantage of a more or less captive audience who can't go anywhere else for TV coverage of the draft. Sort of like Jerry doubling parking prices for the playoff game.

And by the way, it's not what you said, but it certainly is a logical application of what you said.

Absurd. If I lambaste Roy Williams, does that mean Cowboys = BAD? Capitalism I love. Certain capitalists? Not so much.

 

[theogt]

More people to watch? Um, the draft has been huge for decades now. The league isn't some fledgling enterprise that needs to create some "buzz" to draw in new recruits. Once upon a time, an entire Saturday was set aside so that the fans could devote their full attention to the draft without worrying about work the next day or other distractions. Then they moved the latter half to Sunday. Now we've moved the whole circus back to Thursday night, which is a work night for most people. And Friday night is when most people (yes, even draftniks) like to go out. Not anymore, apparently. Who asked for all of this? Not the fans.

Yes, more people will watch it now. Not hard to understand.

Oh please. They're trying to take advantage of a more or less captive audience who can't go anywhere else for TV coverage of the draft.

What they're trying to take advantage is an air time where more people will watch.

Absurd. If I lambaste Roy Williams, does that mean Cowboys = BAD?Capitalism I love. Certain capitalists? Not so much.

No, you lambasted any system based on greed. That's capitalism. It's based on greed. You're such a populist.

 

[LeonDixson]

I'm going to give it a try. One potential advantage is that you won't have to be glued to the TV for as long on any one day, giving you time to do other things. It might also add some drama.

Edit: I had not heard of this change in format before. I must be living an isolated life.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

ths is stupid

 

[bbgun]

Yes, more people will watch it now. Not hard to understand.

Except they already had the fans' full attention and boffo ratings to boot when the draft was held on Saturdays. How long before Super Bowl kickoff is at 9 Eastern?

What they're trying to take advantage is an air time where more people will watch.

So they're deliberately inconveniencing loyal fans for a few more pieces of silver. Thanks for finally coughing that up.

, you lambasted any system based on greed. That's capitalism. It's based on greed. You're such a populist.

"Profit" and "greed" are synonymous? Who knew? I guess that goes double for love and lust.

 

[theogt]

Except they already had the fans' full attention and boffo ratings to boot when the draft was held on Saturdays. How long before Super Bowl kickoff is at 9 Eastern?

Are you contesting the fact that more fans will watch? If not, then you can probably just drop it, because that was my statement and it sounds like you agree with it.

So they're deliberately inconveniencing loyal fans for a few more pieces of silver. Thanks for finally coughing that up.

Some people will be inconvenienced by any change. That is neither here nor there, and is certainly not an argument against change by itself.

"Profit" and "greed" are synonymous? Who knew? I guess that goes double for love and lust.

No, they're not the same. But capitalism is based on maximizing a group's wealth by allowing individuals to compete to maximize their individual profits (not profit itself, which occurs in even communism), and some people define that as greed.

 

[bbgun]

Are you contesting the fact that more fans will watch? If not, then you can probably just drop it, because that was my statement and it sounds like you agree with it.

Not at all. The league knows it can push the fans around with impunity, just as Jerry realized he could double ticket and the parking prices on a whim. But just because they can get away with something doesn't mean I have lo like it or swallow their bull**** spin. If you want to stagger the draft over several nights to maximize ad revenue, then fine. But don't have the gall to lie to my face about why you're doing it, or pretend that you're doing the diehards a "favor."

No, they're not the same. But capitalism is based on maximizing a group's wealth by allowing individuals to compete to maximize their individual profits (not profit itself, which occurs in even communism), and some people define that as greed.

What's next? A primer on the Laffer Curve? I wonder if they teach ethics in B-Schools ...

 

[Big Dakota]

I'd rather have it Friday night, Saturday and Sunday. It's gonna be one strange Sunday without the draft.

 

[hairic]

Don't care. Just like when watching games, I'll only pay attention to the 15 minutes that matter.

 

[jazzcat22]

I will give it a try beofre judging. Almost checked no opinion. But to me these are kind of the same.
I like the 3 days, actually wouldn't mind if it was over 4 days. Rounds 4 through 7 sometimes can be a bear. The coverage isn't all that great. If the broke tose rounds up beteween Saturday and Sunday. Maybe the coverage wouldn't seem so rushed at times.

I will probably DVR most of it anyway. Then speed over some of the crap.