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RomoplusDezEquals7

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I mean the game that defense played before that....they held a pretty good QB to well under that. Did they not?


They did. They also were the 21st rated pass defense last year. And if I were a betting man I'd bet they are rated lowly this year too. We will see.
 

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Here's another fun fact that we like to base QB metrics off of. 4th quarter comebacks and/or game winning drives. In the last 2 years and 9 months Dak has 2, one being the Falcons last year, which I think we'd all agree a flobbed onside kick is the reason why. Before that you have to go all the way back to December 30th of 2018 against the Giants. 2 game winning drives in his last 22 games played.
Hello??? Dak only played in the first 4.5 games last year!!!

It's becoming very clear what your agenda is here, especially for someone who barely joined the site.
 

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Here's another fun fact that we like to base QB metrics off of. 4th quarter comebacks and/or game winning drives. In the last 2 years and 9 months Dak has 2, one being the Falcons last year, which I think we'd all agree a flobbed onside kick is the reason why. Before that you have to go all the way back to December 30th of 2018 against the Giants. 2 game winning drives in his last 22 games played.


so before your picked lot of time he was averaging 5 a year...so if one dug into it..maybe just maybe we would find he actually held the lead with what under 5 minutes in games to watch the defense give it up how many times?
 

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Hello??? Dak only played in the first 4.5 games last year!!!

It's becoming very clear what your agenda is here, especially for someone who barely joined the site.


Yes, which is why I clarified in his last 22 games played. And I am new to the site, but I've been a Cowboys fan for 30 years. I like Dak, he's a good QB. He's just not a great QB. And I think we can all agree that 2 GWD is 22 games is kind of eye opening?
 

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They did. They also were the 21st rated pass defense last year. And if I were a betting man I'd bet they are rated lowly this year too. We will see.


Well you said 2/3 of QB's i dont care about ranking just saying the last game they played they did not and im sure we all consider that QB good...
 

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so before your picked lot of time he was averaging 5 a year...so if one dug into it..maybe just maybe we would find he actually held the lead with what under 5 minutes in games to watch the defense give it up how many times?

He was. With a much better team around him. Like many have said in here, Dak requires a good team around him, he can't carry a team. Hence 6-12 and not winning 2 games in a row in over 2 years. Maybe if someone was to dig in that would be the case. I don't know where to find a stat like that. That could be true.
 

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Well you said 2/3 of QB's i dont care about ranking just saying the last game they played they did not and im sure we all consider that QB good...

And I think 2/3's of QB's would throw for 400 yards given the Cowboys offense and 58 attempts. I stand by that.
 

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He was. With a much better team around him. Like many have said in here, Dak requires a good team around him, he can't carry a team. Hence 6-12 and not winning 2 games in a row in over 2 years. Maybe if someone was to dig in that would be the case. I don't know where to find a stat like that. That could be true.

so every QB that can not come back on TB nees a better team around their QB..right?
 

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And I think 2/3's of QB's would throw for 400 yards given the Cowboys offense and 58 attempts. I stand by that.

well thats an opinion and your welcome to it..AR, Matt Ryan, Josh allen....we can do this all day if you like, Fact is Dak has not been and still is not the problem with this team. Of course your welcome to your opinion, but its just that your opinion with no facts to it. Again how many times has Dak given the defense the lead and watched it burn in the past 2 years?
 

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Nope Dak played a good game. That game was in no way on him. I just don't think many other QB's wouldn't have had as good of a performance.

Actually I should clarify. I think many other QB's would have passed for 400 yards. I think those same QB's would have made more mistakes then Dak. He played a good game.
 

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well thats an opinion and your welcome to it..AR, Matt Ryan, Josh allen....we can do this all day if you like, Fact is Dak has not been and still is not the problem with this team. Of course your welcome to your opinion, but its just that your opinion with no facts to it. Again how many times has Dak given the defense the lead and watched it burn in the past 2 years?

I stated many facts. He's 6-12 in his last 18 games and has 2 game winning drives in his last 22 games. I do think he's proven to be a good QB, just not great or one of the best in the league. But, you are correct in the long run whether he's one of the best QB's in the league, or a good QB is both of our opinions and I certainly respect yours.
 

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Dak's int that was a perfectly thrown ball right through butter fingers CeeDee's arms probably hurt his rating too.
 

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I stated many facts. He's 6-12 in his last 18 games and has 2 game winning drives in his last 22 games. I do think he's proven to be a good QB, just not great or one of the best in the league. But, you are correct in the long run whether he's one of the best QB's in the league, or a good QB is both of our opinions and I certainly respect yours.


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Well I like to go by the "eye test" that so many "Dak haters" have taught us is the "only" way to look at a QB's performance.

And based off the "eye test", Dak was BY FAR the best QB in Week 1.
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actually that didnt age well

Derek Carr is #1 in yards and he won and against very good team..bomb in OT as GW says hes best eye test..ouch that hurts dont it? LOL
 

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actually that didnt age well

Derek Carr is #1 in yards and he won and against very good team..bomb in OT as GW says hes best eye test..ouch that hurts dont it? LOL
I didn't watch the game, so I am still right with MY eye test ... :muttley:

J/K. Carr played great from everything I have seen about the MNF game. So best, second best, I'm not going to cry either way.
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Other than the pick that IMO was on Lamb. Hit him in both hands but heard foot steps. I thought Dak played very well. Surprised his rating wasn’t better. I guess throwing 50 times a game is a bad thing.
 

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I didn't watch the game, so I am still right with MY eye test ... :muttley:

J/K. Carr played great from everything I have seen about the MNF game. So best, second best, I'm not going to cry either way.
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pundits here that get their gander up saying carr is as good as dak

they freak out for sure..after game one stats very similar but one threw a Game winning bomb in OT ... so? for one week Carr was better
 
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