The Offensive Philosophy

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Its time to dump the offensive philosophy which Garrett has instilled into this team. Nothing is wrong with the players that we have - Witten, Dez, Austin, Romo, etc. Its the playbook that Garrett has brought which doesn't fit the players. Although Callahan is calling the plays, its still Garretts playbook.

Its time to start anew. Throw away the playbook. Find a real offensive coordinator that doesn't have to deal with Garrett's playbook. Its crap and I've been saying for years now.
 
ConstantReboot said:
Its time to dump the offensive philosophy which Garrett has instilled into this team. Nothing is wrong with the players that we have - Witten, Dez, Austin, Romo, etc. Its the playbook that Garrett has brought which doesn't fit the players. Although Callahan is calling the plays, its still Garretts playbook.

Its time to start anew. Throw away the playbook. Find a real offensive coordinator that doesn't have to deal with Garrett's playbook. Its crap and I've been saying for years now.
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even if your right, they wont be jumping ship midseason
 
I think this team goes 8-8 with the coaching staff we have right now. With a better staff we could be 11-5 or better. Games like the today's game are a perfect example of the effect coaching can have on an outcome. Especially that terribly conservative play call on 3rd and goal to the rookie WR. Just a horrible call, because it didn't take a genius to figure out that Dez was the only player on the field today that was going to get in the end zone. He brought his A game. Unfortunately, our coaches did not.....
 
SlwSVT said:
This offense is now Callahans. This dink and dunk 5 yard outs has Callahan written all over it. This is not the same Garrett offense.
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Well, even if that is supposedly true, BC's offense was a West Coast offense. One thing has improved, and that is OL play. That was the alleged reason JGs offense didn't work.
 
That's because this team doesn't have any specific philosophy.

They want to be a dynamic 2TE offense but are better suited to go with more 3WR sets. They constantly look around the league and cherry-pick things that work for other teams.....see Wildcat and now the Pistol, and I'd even throw in the bubble screen as well because this team has almost zero success running it even though other teams gash defenses regularly.

They want to be a high tempo team that wears out defenses but even their sped up approach leaves them snapping the ball with little time on the clock.

They want to be balanced but cannot run the ball at all, partly because they basically roll out a 7OL formation for many of their runs when their OL struggles to block individually and their TEs are worse. They invite 8 guys in the box and try to run from these 2TE formations.......and can't figure out why they can't run. How about you spread teams out a bit to prevent the defense from clogging the middle at the snap.

Because they can't run they have long 3rd downs.....I think I saw today the average distance on 3rd down was actually over 10 yards. That's nuts.

Anyone see today that Marty caught 2 TDs, one of them a game winner? I believe that gives him 8 catches on the year, 3 TDs. Meanwhile Escobar has 2 catches which is approximately what Martellus got for 2 of his seasons in Dallas......1 catch per week. 20, 15, 33, 17. Those are the season-by-season catches for Marty while in Dallas. As I have been saying, the problem Martellus didn't work in Dallas is NOT because Martellus couldn't receive. Clearly he can do a hell of a lot more in the passing game than Dallas ever got from him. The problem is, this team has too many damn weapons ahead of the #2 TE that it's impossible to even get passes in the direction of the #2 TE.

This team has no offensive identity, they have no single philosophy, and absolutely refuse to move away from what doesn't work.

The offenses is just far too ineffective. They appear to try and set something up all day, wasting down after down as part of some master plan to open up big plays later. Yet, because they cannot execute consistently or even run the ball at all, teams never have to adjust to anything and will be content letting Dallas dink and dunk all day and run 3 yard routes on 3rd and 8.
 
Hoofbite said:
That's because this team doesn't have any specific philosophy.

They want to be a dynamic 2TE offense but are better suited to go with more 3WR sets. They constantly look around the league and cherry-pick things that work for other teams.....see Wildcat and now the Pistol, and I'd even throw in the bubble screen as well because this team has almost zero success running it even though other teams gash defenses regularly.

They want to be a high tempo team that wears out defenses but even their sped up approach leaves them snapping the ball with little time on the clock.

They want to be balanced but cannot run the ball at all, partly because they basically roll out a 7OL formation for many of their runs when their OL struggles to block individually and their TEs are worse. They invite 8 guys in the box and try to run from these 2TE formations.......and can't figure out why they can't run. How about you spread teams out a bit to prevent the defense from clogging the middle at the snap.

Because they can't run they have long 3rd downs.....I think I saw today the average distance on 3rd down was actually over 10 yards. That's nuts.

Anyone see today that Marty caught 2 TDs, one of them a game winner? I believe that gives him 8 catches on the year, 3 TDs. Meanwhile Escobar has 2 catches which is approximately what Martellus got for 2 of his seasons in Dallas......1 catch per week. 20, 15, 33, 17. Those are the season-by-season catches for Marty while in Dallas. As I have been saying, the problem Martellus didn't work in Dallas is NOT because Martellus couldn't receive. Clearly he can do a hell of a lot more in the passing game than Dallas ever got from him. The problem is, this team has too many damn weapons ahead of the #2 TE that it's impossible to even get passes in the direction of the #2 TE.

This team has no offensive identity, they have no single philosophy, and absolutely refuse to move away from what doesn't work.

The offenses is just far too ineffective. They appear to try and set something up all day, wasting down after down as part of some master plan to open up big plays later. Yet, because they cannot execute consistently or even run the ball at all, teams never have to adjust to anything and will be content letting Dallas dink and dunk all day and run 3 yard routes on 3rd and 8.
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And here we have one of the great posts of the millennium... I've never witnessed such a cluster bomb in respect to lack of vision. That is why hurry up worked, because it ruled out the vision of our wise 'sage'....
 
SlwSVT said:
This offense is now Callahans. This dink and dunk 5 yard outs has Callahan written all over it. This is not the same Garrett offense.
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Callahan calls the plays. Its still the same Garrett playbook. Thats the major problem. Its like telling Zimmer to run a 3-4 defense.

Garrett's playbook has hampered this offense for almost a decade. While other offenses around the league are exploding. This time its not the players. We have very good players on offense. Its the system. Its beyond suck.
 
I agree 100% Hoof. Garrett is known to try to run plays early on in order to set up a bigger play later. It's garbage.

Until the core of this team and coaching staff is blown up, nothing will change.

It's the same every year. The Offense will have a huge game, only to follow it with 2 or 3 stinker games. That huge game is what keeps us fans and Jerry excited.
 
They'll abandon when they are forced to abandon. Not enough time left on the clock, so hurry up... Otherwise, it's just some band your head against a wall over and over again offense...
 
Its to play conservative and hope the d wins it for you. But you must have a great d for that too work.
 
ConstantReboot said:
Callahan calls the plays. Its still the same Garrett playbook. Thats the major problem. Its like telling Zimmer to run a 3-4 defense.

Garrett's playbook has hampered this offense for almost a decade. While other offenses around the league are exploding. This time its not the players. We have very good players on offense. Its the system. Its beyond suck.
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The difference was Zimmer actually pulled it off. But he had a HOF coach telling him what to do. JG isn't even an expert in his own offense. How is he suppose to teach Cally to run it?
 
I still for the life of me do not understand why every game that we are trying to come back with no time left we drain 20 seconds on a dump off to Witten. EVERYTIME.
 
Aven8 said:
The difference was Zimmer actually pulled it off. But he had a HOF coach telling him what to do. JG isn't even an expert in his own offense. How is he suppose to teach Cally to run it?
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JG is really nothing more than QB assist coach. I really wish would could have had an offensive mastermind here who can really open this offense up. Its not the players thats at fault.
 
Hoov said:
even if your right, they wont be jumping ship midseason
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Baltimore did it at the end of the year and won the Superbowl.


I wish we would scrap our system.

The only reason it works at all is because we have great skill players.
 
ConstantReboot said:
JG is really nothing more than QB assist coach. I really wish would could have had an offensive mastermind here who can really open this offense up. Its not the players thats at fault.
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I've always wanted that for Romo. Think about this for a minute. Romo has all the franchise records, and a lot of NFL records. Yet he's had JG for every year but one. What could he have been with one of these offensive masterminds? The change is long overdue.
 
Hoofbite said:
That's because this team doesn't have any specific philosophy.

They want to be a dynamic 2TE offense but are better suited to go with more 3WR sets. They constantly look around the league and cherry-pick things that work for other teams.....see Wildcat and now the Pistol, and I'd even throw in the bubble screen as well because this team has almost zero success running it even though other teams gash defenses regularly.

They want to be a high tempo team that wears out defenses but even their sped up approach leaves them snapping the ball with little time on the clock.

They want to be balanced but cannot run the ball at all, partly because they basically roll out a 7OL formation for many of their runs when their OL struggles to block individually and their TEs are worse. They invite 8 guys in the box and try to run from these 2TE formations.......and can't figure out why they can't run. How about you spread teams out a bit to prevent the defense from clogging the middle at the snap.

Because they can't run they have long 3rd downs.....I think I saw today the average distance on 3rd down was actually over 10 yards. That's nuts.

Anyone see today that Marty caught 2 TDs, one of them a game winner? I believe that gives him 8 catches on the year, 3 TDs. Meanwhile Escobar has 2 catches which is approximately what Martellus got for 2 of his seasons in Dallas......1 catch per week. 20, 15, 33, 17. Those are the season-by-season catches for Marty while in Dallas. As I have been saying, the problem Martellus didn't work in Dallas is NOT because Martellus couldn't receive. Clearly he can do a hell of a lot more in the passing game than Dallas ever got from him. The problem is, this team has too many damn weapons ahead of the #2 TE that it's impossible to even get passes in the direction of the #2 TE.

This team has no offensive identity, they have no single philosophy, and absolutely refuse to move away from what doesn't work.

The offenses is just far too ineffective. They appear to try and set something up all day, wasting down after down as part of some master plan to open up big plays later. Yet, because they cannot execute consistently or even run the ball at all, teams never have to adjust to anything and will be content letting Dallas dink and dunk all day and run 3 yard routes on 3rd and 8.[/quote

Very astute post and spot on.
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The offensive use to attack the middle of the field relentlessly when Soprano was here, now not so much. What is the point of the 2nd TE if neither one can run a seem route, to threaten the deep middle of the field? The entire scheme is about attacking the sidelines and underneath 2 yards at a time. We waste more plays on offense than any team in the NFL. How many 2 yard routes did we run on 2nd down in the 2nd half? Not to mention ZERO runs the entire 4th quarter. We went from running 8 draws a game to maybe one a game.

The whole design of the route combinations are a complete joke in my opinion. Where is the schemes to get mismatches?

My other frustration is with Romo, seems like at least 1/3 of the time he is checking us to a play that just doesnt work. Best example was on 3rd and goal from the 8, Dez is on an inland and he audibles to a WR to Williams? Good QBs would be snapping that ball as quickly as they can to take a shot to Dez.
 
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