The Offensive Philosophy

dallasdave

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Its time to dump the offensive philosophy which Garrett has instilled into this team. Nothing is wrong with the players that we have - Witten, Dez, Austin, Romo, etc. Its the playbook that Garrett has brought which doesn't fit the players. Although Callahan is calling the plays, its still Garretts playbook.

Its time to start anew. Throw away the playbook. Find a real offensive coordinator that doesn't have to deal with Garrett's playbook. Its crap and I've been saying for years now.

Like I was thinking the same thing dude, find a real offensive coordinator with real offensive plays.
 

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The offensive philosophy is let's average 5.4 yards per play every game.

2 for 2 so far
 

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This has been my mantra for three years now. The Garrett offense just does not do anything to help players succeed. It doesn't create running lanes. It doesn't create separation for receivers. It doesn't set up future action. It's plodding and predictable and old, and if things continue this season the way they've been going, I'll be ready for this team to try a high risk hire hoping for a home run. Kyle Shanahan, anyone?

I think in the next coupla weeks we'll see a lot closer what this team really is.
 

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This has been my mantra for three years now. The Garrett offense just does not do anything to help players succeed. It doesn't create running lanes. It doesn't create separation for receivers. It doesn't set up future action. It's plodding and predictable and old, and if things continue this season the way they've been going, I'll be ready for this team to try a high risk hire hoping for a home run. Kyle Shanahan, anyone?

I think in the next coupla weeks we'll see a lot closer what this team really is.

Interesting that you mentioned Kyle Shanahan. I was thinking the same but I doubt the Joneses would do anything. Kyle is much more innovative than Garrett. I have no clue how he ever was branded a genius.
 

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I think this team goes 8-8 with the coaching staff we have right now. With a better staff we could be 11-5 or better. Games like the today's game are a perfect example of the effect coaching can have on an outcome. Especially that terribly conservative play call on 3rd and goal to the rookie WR. Just a horrible call, because it didn't take a genius to figure out that Dez was the only player on the field today that was going to get in the end zone. He brought his A game. Unfortunately, our coaches did not.....

The problem, in my opinion, with this team is that they don't know how to run the ball. I would rather they keep trying to run and lose games than to play this type of game and just look clueless. I want to see a team that each week can ground out 120-150 yards and pass for about 300-350 yards, control the clock for about 35-40 minutes a game. So how do you get there? New coaching staff? Better offensive line? I know we won't get a new GM and they won't go out and get two young guards that are high draft picks and replace Free and Parnell. It takes time, but if this team decided to focus on the OL, DL and pair of good safeties it can and will win more often than not. JMO
 

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Actually, if executed properly today the offense would have won this game for us in the fourth qtr.

For all the whining here about romo I would have expected somebody to actually point out the two main plays where this a bone to pick with romo.

During the second drive of the fourth qtr, during that period where romo all of a sudden lost his touch there was a perfectly called crossing route to Austin which worked perfectly except romo put t on Austin's hip instead of in front of him. Throwing left, stressing those ribs in the 4th qtr he was just inaccurate.

They didn't show the replay so I will have to wait till the all 22 comes out Tuesday but babe was adamant in pointing out that the chiefs blew it and had the ball been thrown in front of Austin he was gone for six.

The play where romo was stripped it appears it was the same, a big play they just missed.

That's three big plays missed in the fourth qtr. correctable stuff.
 

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Interesting that you mentioned Kyle Shanahan. I was thinking the same but I doubt the Joneses would do anything. Kyle is much more innovative than Garrett. I have no clue how he ever was branded a genius.

The only people that branded Garrett a genius are the Cowboys faithful and the snake oil salesman owner who also tried to sell us that the O and D lines were the strength of this team.
 

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The only people that branded Garrett a genius are the Cowboys faithful and the snake oil salesman owner who also tried to sell us that the O and D lines were the strength of this team.

Ironically, it was the delay if game penalty on the chiefs that saved them.

Also the chiefs only scored three points off the two turnovers.
 

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Actually, if executed properly today the offense would have won this game for us in the fourth qtr.

For all the whining here about romo I would have expected somebody to actually point out the two main plays where this a bone to pick with romo.

During the second drive of the fourth qtr, during that period where romo all of a sudden lost his touch there was a perfectly called crossing route to Austin which worked perfectly except romo put t on Austin's hip instead of in front of him. Throwing left, stressing those ribs in the 4th qtr he was just inaccurate.

They didn't show the replay so I will have to wait till the all 22 comes out Tuesday but babe was adamant in pointing out that the chiefs blew it and had the ball been thrown in front of Austin he was gone for six.

The play where romo was stripped it appears it was the same, a big play they just missed.

That's three big plays missed in the fourth qtr. correctable stuff.

What year. Seems as though "execution" has been tagged as being a problem for multiple years now.
 

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What year. Seems as though "execution" has been tagged as being a problem for multiple years now.

Today.

Sorry you probably didn't even know that play to Austin was a missed opportunity.

Try some more sarcasm.
 

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That's because this team doesn't have any specific philosophy.

They want to be a dynamic 2TE offense but are better suited to go with more 3WR sets. They constantly look around the league and cherry-pick things that work for other teams.....see Wildcat and now the Pistol, and I'd even throw in the bubble screen as well because this team has almost zero success running it even though other teams gash defenses regularly.

They want to be a high tempo team that wears out defenses but even their sped up approach leaves them snapping the ball with little time on the clock.

They want to be balanced but cannot run the ball at all, partly because they basically roll out a 7OL formation for many of their runs when their OL struggles to block individually and their TEs are worse. They invite 8 guys in the box and try to run from these 2TE formations.......and can't figure out why they can't run. How about you spread teams out a bit to prevent the defense from clogging the middle at the snap.

Because they can't run they have long 3rd downs.....I think I saw today the average distance on 3rd down was actually over 10 yards. That's nuts.

Anyone see today that Marty caught 2 TDs, one of them a game winner? I believe that gives him 8 catches on the year, 3 TDs. Meanwhile Escobar has 2 catches which is approximately what Martellus got for 2 of his seasons in Dallas......1 catch per week. 20, 15, 33, 17. Those are the season-by-season catches for Marty while in Dallas. As I have been saying, the problem Martellus didn't work in Dallas is NOT because Martellus couldn't receive. Clearly he can do a hell of a lot more in the passing game than Dallas ever got from him. The problem is, this team has too many damn weapons ahead of the #2 TE that it's impossible to even get passes in the direction of the #2 TE.

This team has no offensive identity, they have no single philosophy, and absolutely refuse to move away from what doesn't work.

The offenses is just far too ineffective. They appear to try and set something up all day, wasting down after down as part of some master plan to open up big plays later. Yet, because they cannot execute consistently or even run the ball at all, teams never have to adjust to anything and will be content letting Dallas dink and dunk all day and run 3 yard routes on 3rd and 8.

I think the problem is the defense is keeping the game close and not spotting the other team a 20 point lead, the offense does much better when they have nothing to lose and the opposing D is in prevent
 

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Today.

Sorry you probably didn't even know that play to Austin was a missed opportunity.

Try some more sarcasm.

Maybe I should try less. People have been saying that execution is the reason the plays aren't panning out. Couchscout specifically said the same thing after the Cardinals game a bit back.

Here's my question. If it's so correctable, what year will it be corrected?
 

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Maybe I should try less. People have been saying that execution is the reason the plays aren't panning out. Couchscout specifically said the same thing after the Cardinals game a bit back.

Here's my question. If it's so correctable, what year will it be corrected?

Ask couchscout
 

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Theebs usually has a sixth sense about when to panic and when not to. If he's not freaking out yet, it's a good sign.
 

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Here's a radical idea, the Cowboys go out to win the game; not play it safe and close. Open the door and take chances, be wild and crazy.:eek:
 

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Here's a radical idea, the Cowboys go out to win the game; not play it safe and close. Open the door and take chances, be wild and crazy.:eek:

Honestly I got the sense they were going to continue to attack their corners but the field position was bad all day.

Being backed up like that means a mistake of any kind is points for them.
 

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Honestly I got the sense they were going to continue to attack their corners but the field position was bad all day.

Being backed up like that means a mistake of any kind is points for them.

But perhaps not attacking them means a loss for us?
 
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