The Passing Yards Leader has never won the Super Bowl

[LocimusPrime]

Just for your conversation and entertainment.
FYI I’m neutral dak. I think he’s gotten better this year. Don’t hate him don’t luv him.

 

[Techsass]

Wow 12-17. Sounds like we've had some super easy schedules. Where are we at now? Around his 60th game?

 

[shabazz]

Yeah, but a lot of people are clamouring for Dak to put up more passing yards. That's not the way to get it done.

Lamar Jackson Is proving just the opposite every week. The cumulative passing yards don’t win big games as much as converting 3rd downs via passing or with your legs. Not dying in the Red Zone against good defenses are also better yardstick sure than total passing yards. Reading defenses and making correct audibles at the line are never measured in any stats. So many things go into the criteria for greatness that it must be measured by the eye test as well as the stats.

Jackson is only averaging 220 yards per game but his maturation in executing all these facets is quite an achievement .........of course his defense is more than holding up their end but I’m just judging his performance. He is a game changer which one should be at the most important position on the field. At 35 million per year we want a game changer, if that should indeed transpire.

 

[shabazz]

Not my job to do your research.

It was all over the boards all last season and in the offseason.

And since this thread wasn't specifically about Dak, your query appears to be quite nonsensical.

Careful, he’s about to ask you why you hate Dak pretty soon, Lol

 

[Ranched]

The Passing Yards Leader has NEVER Won the Super Bowl
Why? Because balance and D wins.

 

[kskboys]

Careful, he’s about to ask you why you hate Dak pretty soon, Lol

I'll have a conversation w/ anyone. When it gets stupid, I always try to just walk away.

I've never seen one positive thing he brings to the forum and he's constantly attacking and berating others, so I don't consider him worth my time.

 

[kskboys]

Lamar Jackson Is proving just the opposite every week. The cumulative passing yards don’t win big games as much as converting 3rd downs via passing or with your legs. Not dying in the Red Zone against good defenses are also better yardstick sure than total passing yards. Reading defenses and making correct audibles at the line are never measured in any stats. So many things go into the criteria for greatness that it must be measured by the eye test as well as the stats.

Jackson is only averaging 220 yards per game but his maturation in executing all these facets is quite an achievement .........of course his defense is more than holding up their end but I’m just judging his performance. He is a game changer which one should be at the most important position on the field. At 35 million per year we want a game changer, if that should indeed transpire.

Yup. I'm most definitely fascinated to see if he can do it against playoff D's. And I can't wait for a rematch against NE!!!! Should be some great entertainment!!!

And yes, running the ball prolifically eats up clock w/ keeps your D fresh. Watching Lamaar, he might just be a good enough passer to keep 'em honest!!!!

 

[shabazz]

I'll have a conversation w/ anyone. When it gets stupid, I always try to just walk away.

I've never seen one positive thing he brings to the forum and he's constantly attacking and berating others, so I don't consider him worth my time.

It’s hillarious because we all know you have been very patient and supportive of Dakota. Some of these guys are like piranhas striking out at anything in a feeding frenzy.

 

[shabazz]

Yup. I'm most definitely fascinated to see if he can do it against playoff D's. And I can't wait for a rematch against NE!!!! Should be some great entertainment!!!

And yes, running the ball prolifically eats up clock w/ keeps your D fresh. Watching Lamaar, he might just be a good enough passer to keep 'em honest!!!!

I was on record all week before facing the Patriots that he HAD to use his legs against the Patriots so the 1 rush was more than disappointing. I knew that a 350 yard passing game was unrealistic and that him rushing for almost 70 yards like Jackson did was too. I was advocating for him to have at least 5or6 strategic rushes that would convert 3rd downs or slow down the pass rush or just flat out demoralize their defense but it didn’t happen.......it turned out to be a very winnable game and that could have made the difference

Of course special teams and some drops didn’t help but I though the defense had one of their better games

 

[TwoDeep3]

the rushing yards leader hasn't fared to well either

Until Emmitt did it three times. 92, 93, and 95.

 

[Established1971]

People get too caught up in stats around here. Give me a top 5 D along with a top 5-7 offense and it could make a decent playoff run.

thats what we have right now, statistically (at least before the Buffalo game, but it cant have changed too much)

 

[shabazz]

thats what we have right now, statistically (at least before the Buffalo game, but it cant have changed too much)

I think that playing in the NFC East and playing the 2 worst teams in the AFC east kind of skewed those ranking early on . ( even though we lost to the Jets, Lol). Playing the Patriots, Vikings,Packers, Saints and Bills have revealed our more realistic rankings on both sides of the ball.

Parcels comments that “ You are what your record says you are” applies accurately in our case. Average

 

[Flamma]

Not necessarily the best team. Problem is, that passing leader generally comes up against a disruptive D, and that's what beats him.

A lot of good teams with a passing leader have made it to the Super Bowl. The reason none have won is partially the points you bring up but also dumb luck and coincidence.

1984 Dan Marino's Dolphins were one of the best teams I've seen make it to the SB. But the 15-1 49ers were a juggernaut. No one was beating that team.

2001 Rams were double digit favorites to win that SB.

2007 and 2017 Patriots. This is where what you say applies, a disruptive D. But it also includes dumb luck and coincidence. Anyone could have won the 2017 SB, it was a toss up. The Giants disruptive D was part of the reason they won in 2007, but so was dumb luck.

If you go to the list of passing leaders throughout the years you can see why they didn't make it to the SB. Many of them weren't on good teams, make the playoffs, or had crap defenses. But for the ones that actually made the SB, they were pretty balanced and deserved to be there.

 

[perrykemp]

Unless you’re Emmitt

Talking modern NFL, not a quarter century ago.

 

[TheSkaven]

It’s probably because teams that get ahead early in games, aka “good teams”, don’t need to sling the ball around the field so much. You throw for 200 yards in the first half and get up 21-6 then slow it down in the second half.

Quarterbacks with a lot of passing yards are typically on bad teams or teams that need to throw to get back in the game.

Case in point, the leaders right now are 1) Prescott (6-6), 2) Winston (4-7), 3) Ryan (3-9) and 4) Rivers (4-7).

 

[DandyDon1722]

Why? Because balance and D wins.

Yep - pass defense is one of the single most important indicators of a championship team along with Points Per Drive. The reason is simple you face better QBs in the playoffs. You just don’t have a chance.

BTW we were almost always top ten in PPD with Tony while being in the bottom five of pass defense.

Jacques Reeves anyone?

 

[Galian Beast]

Yep - pass defense is one of the single most important indicators of a championship team along with Points Per Drive. The reason is simple you face better QBs in the playoffs. You just don’t have a chance.

BTW we were almost always top ten in PPD with Tony while being in the bottom five of pass defense.

Jacques Reeves anyone?

For all the people obsessed with Dak, they really don't recognize how much better this defense is than the defenses Romo had most years. That isn't to say that this defense is perfect, but a good QB should be winning with this cast and crew.

Dak defenses ranked by points
2019 - 9th
2018 - 7th
2017- 13th
2016 - 5th

Romo defenses ranked by points
2014 - 15th
2013 - 26th
2012 - 24th
2011 - 16th
2010 - 31st
2009 - 2nd
2008 - 20th
2007 - 13th
2006 - 20th

If you look at 2007, 2009, 2014, they were all Romo's best years. One year with a top 10 defense. Prescott has had a top 10 defense 3 of 4 years. And the worst year he has had was 13th. Romo had a defense like that 2 of 9 years. Let's face reality. If they had allowed Romo to continue playing and used Prescott as a backup, this team may have seen more success. The rush to push out Romo because Prescott was beating bad teams in 2016 was misguided.

Romo with an offensive line, a running game, and defense... He never had that compliment. In 2009 he had no offensive line. In 2007 the defense was okay, not great. Also didn't have the best pass blocking line.

Romo should have been allowed to return and compete for his job in 2016 and had he, he would have won his job back. It definitely could have been our year.

 

[ghst187]

The dealio is that the D was better when we ran the ball more...controlled the clock, got a lead...
We got away from that a bit...the D has gotten exposed. Daks stats are up but we aren’t better for it overall. It’s not like we have coaches that can think up anything new

 

[noshame]

Give me a friggen coach, I'll give you a bowl

 

[DandyDon52]

Why? Because balance and D wins.

that and a good run game.