The QB position

Proof · Jan 21, 2018

Bullflop said:
Don't be so sure. As I said, a drastic downturn in Dak's performance could possibly cause consideration of replacing him. If he had adequate pass protection and completed a paltry 40% of his passes, great consternation would surely ensue. Needless to say, it's unlikely but nevertheless, remotely possible. Yes, injury could and would be the most dominant factor, though.

I feel like you take a regular post and add like 15 extra words after every time

Boyz981 · Jan 21, 2018

Section446 said:
Dak has done nothing to earn a guaranteed starting job.

Northern_Cowboy said:
6-6 in his last 12 games...just saying

Actually 7-5 in his last 12! and 4-1 in his last 5 ..... just saying

jterrell · Jan 21, 2018

Northern_Cowboy said:
6-6 in his last 12 games...just saying

Your account was created January 9th, lol.
You are a troll.
Go away.

Northern_Cowboy · Jan 21, 2018

Boyz981 said:
Actually 7-5 in his last 12! and 4-1 in his last 5 ..... just saying

Your wrong check again

Northern_Cowboy · Jan 21, 2018

jterrell said:
Your account was created January 9th, lol.
You are a troll.
Go away.

Nope was a poster on DC.com for years (using this same name) do your homework and check the threads on this site before you make utterly ridiculous claims

Northern_Cowboy · Jan 21, 2018

Actually i am wrong you are correct Boyz981, i stand corrected. he was 6-6 in our 1st 12 games this past season, my mistake, but i guess there is not much difference in saying 7-5 in our last 12 or 7-6 in our last 13

Boyz981 · Jan 21, 2018

Northern_Cowboy said:
Your wrong check again

Last wins....49ers,Commanders,Chiefs, Commanders, Giants, Raiders and Eagles --> 7
loses - Packers, Falcons, Eagles, Chargers and Seahawks --> 5
4-1 last five... just saying lol

Northern_Cowboy · Jan 21, 2018

Boyz981 said:
Last wins....49ers,Commanders,Chiefs, Commanders, Giants, Raiders and Eagles --> 7
loses - Packers, Falcons, Eagles, Chargers and Seahawks --> 5
4-1 last five... just saying lol

I already stated you were correct and i was wrong, look at the post just before yours...--)

jterrell · Jan 21, 2018

Northern_Cowboy said:
Nope was a poster on DC.com for years (using this same name) do your homework and check the threads on this site before you make utterly ridiculous claims

You are followed by 2 other posters... they joined January 8th and January 12th.

You come with an anti-Dak agenda and have made 50 posts in 2 weeks.

That's pretty much troll bot status 101 on a board where the average poster has been here 4+ years.

Northern_Cowboy · Jan 21, 2018

jterrell said:
You are followed by 2 other posters... they joined January 8th and January 12th.

You come with an anti-Dak agenda and have made 50 posts in 2 weeks.

That's pretty much troll bot status 101 on a board where the average poster has been here 4+ years.

Maybe to an uniformed immature person, but to anyone else who knows me i am the exact opposite

StarOfGlory · Jan 21, 2018

gp_cowpolk said:
And 0-1 in the playoffs

That's a rather small sample size to base an opinion on.

Gator88 · Jan 21, 2018

jterrell said:
I'm not sure you guys have actual working brains.

The entire point is winning.
And if you are winning you are DOING IT RIGHT.

I could care less if a guy looks better in a uniform or has a better arm or points to the sky after every touchdown. I only care about winning; as do the coaches.

There is no guarantee an injured player returns at 100% or that the team is ready to adjust to that player.
And there's zero reason to take risks when you are winning at an 80% clip.
If a guy is 8-2 as a tarter you are going to let that guy play until he loses, wins but has an awful game or until the off-season when there's an open competition again.

8-2 is reality on the field. What someone thinks is better or worse is just thoughts.

See, I don't think you don't have a working brain, I just think you are easily satisfied and just plain wrong. All that matters is winning in the playoffs. I dont care if you beat up on bad teams in the regular season, to win in the playoffs, you need to beat great teams. To beat great teams, you should put your best possible team out there, and if one guy has clearly shown he's the better option, you'd be better served taking a potential extra loss or 2 in the regular season to adjust to boost your chances in the playoffs (It's doubtful that would even be the case).

You can be satisfied with mediocrity all you want, but winning regular season games against scrub teams means zilch when you get to the playoffs.

blueblood70 · Jan 21, 2018

this is way to fantasy , preseason will determine how close Rush is to Dak but no way we will know until he plays in real meaningful games under fire.they both are young and need time to develop..

4lifecowboy · Jan 21, 2018

jterrell said:
You area below average poster. Should I follow you around every thread and and create new threads regularly to point it out?

I'll take things below average posters revert to for 500 Alex.

jterrell · Jan 21, 2018

Gator88 said:
See, I don't think you don't have a working brain, I just think you are easily satisfied and just plain wrong. All that matters is winning in the playoffs. I dont care if you beat up on bad teams in the regular season, to win in the playoffs, you need to beat great teams. To beat great teams, you should put your best possible team out there, and if one guy has clearly shown he's the better option, you'd be better served taking a potential extra loss or 2 in the regular season to adjust to boost your chances in the playoffs (It's doubtful that would even be the case).

You can be satisfied with mediocrity all you want, but winning regular season games against scrub teams means zilch when you get to the playoffs.

The QB had nothing to do with losing the playoff game. Dak passed for over 300 yards with 3 TDs.
The defense couldn't;t stop Rodgers and allowed 34 points.

Think more, post less.

starcity214 · Jan 21, 2018

superonyx said:
Dak had the best rookie year of any QB in NFL history.
That fact hurts you.
You made a bunch of points that are not relevant because its all just your conjecture.
Let me see.....you say the offense sucked because Dak sucks.
Former players and analyst have all come out and said its JG offense that is stale and predictable that is the problem........
Hmm I wonder who I should believe?
Its not even close.

Well, former analysts were also slobbering over RG3 and a young Nick Foles at one point too..

The only good stat Dak had his rookie season was QBR. If Dak had landed on the Browns , his QBR would not be the same. DAK landed in the perfect situation to play "just don' lose the game" type of football. The result? High completion percentage ( from dump offs and check downs) and low INT numbers from not having to take chances. Some fans really lack football intelligence. Dak's rookie year was a byproduct of landing in the perfect spot to hide his weaknesses. The front office expected growth (they stopped hiding Dak) this year and we all saw what happened..

Also, that same "outdated scheme" has produced consistent good results over the years. Ray Lewis called out the coaches a while back, but we still managed to be a top 5 offense for years after that..

What kind of offense can a QB that gets skittish in the pocket, refuses to throw deep, and checks down constantly produce in?
Tell me. What coach can turn Dak into Marino?
Should have hired that guy in the Stoerner Hutchinson days..

Gator88 · Jan 21, 2018

jterrell said:
The QB had nothing to do with losing the playoff game. Dak passed for over 300 yards with 3 TDs.
The defense couldn't;t stop Rodgers and allowed 34 points.

Think more, post less.

He was also playing against a 31st ranked pass defense that was missing their entire secondary to injuries while he was at home with all of the offense healthy, and was behind the whole game pretty much which boosts passing attempts. To absolve the QB of blame by saying the QB performance couldn't have been improved on is silly.

jterrell · Jan 21, 2018

starcity214 said:
Well, former analysts were also slobbering over RG3 and a young Nick Foles at one point too..

The only good stat Dak had his rookie season was QBR. If Dak had landed on the Browns , his QBR would not be the same. DAK landed in the perfect situation to play "just don' lose the game" type of football. The result? High completion percentage ( from dump offs and check downs) and low INT numbers from not having to take chances. Some fans really lack football intelligence. Dak's rookie year was a byproduct of landing in the perfect spot to hide his weaknesses. The front office expected growth (they stopped hiding Dak) this year and we all saw what happened..

Also, that same "outdated scheme" has produced consistent good results over the years. Ray Lewis called out the coaches a while back, but we still managed to be a top 5 offense for years after that..

What kind of offense can a QB that gets skittish in the pocket, refuses to throw deep, and checks down constantly produce in?
Tell me. What coach can turn Dak into Marino?
Should have hired that guy in the Stoerner Hutchinson days..

Calm down Rachel.
None of that is accurate at all.
The offense saw the exact same regression post 13 win season with Romo and TO as it's head.
That's why Jason is no longer calling the plays.

Romo was always held back by inferior players around him, except of course when he fumbled the PAT snap to beat SEA in his first playoff game.
Dak certainly was held back by poor LT play and poor LB play last year when the studs that key the entire schemes on their sides of the ball were hurt.

jterrell · Jan 21, 2018

Gator88 said:
He was also playing against a 31st ranked pass defense that was missing their entire secondary to injuries while he was at home with all of the offense healthy, and was behind the whole game pretty much which boosts passing attempts. To absolve the QB of blame by saying the QB performance couldn't have been improved on is silly.

You guys are absolutely pathetic in every sense of the word,
It was the best rookie QB performance in the history of the NFL across a season and then statistically the best rookie QB performance in a game in 20 years.

Gratz on catching the block early in your sad posting career.

Gator88 · Jan 21, 2018

jterrell said:
You guys are absolutely pathetic in every sense of the word,
It was the best rookie QB performance in the history of the NFL across a season and then statistically the best rookie QB performance in a game in 20 years.

Gratz on catching the block early in your sad posting career.

Cool, just going to finish by saying: from what I could find (https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-average-team-passer-rating), the average passer rating GB gave up on the road that year was 112.1. Yes, you read that right. Dak had a 103.2 passer rating in the playoff game, so he didn't even match up to the average GB road opponent that year.

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