tomson75;1670241 said:
^^^^^^ THAT is a well thought out gripe. I can't really argue with much of that. Good stuff.
Thanks.....
YoMick;1670371 said:
"Expectations"
"Delusions"
"Superman"
I expect him to make a textbook tackle.
I get delusional when I see him hit someone and they run 35 more yards downfield
I dont think he is Superman
No, Superman is in your avator......
On this team, if you are talking of pulling on Superman's cape, you are talking about Romo and TO, and not anyone on defense. Unfortunately.
ThreeSportStar80;1670826 said:
Ahhh man stop it with the statistics! It's about impact plays and Roy's INT's have come when the games were pretty much over! I will give him credit for finding the ball on that strip by Remi though, Roy just needs to improve each week. Not wrapping up on a tackle and allowing the TE to rumble down the field is just a horrible play.
Yes, stats don't tell all, just not the nature of numbers. There is a huge difference between making the play by being aggressive or passively by grabbing shoelaces. There is a reason Roy hasn't forced any fumbles lately, but he did earlier in his career.
He plays different, not other way to say it. His pass deflections are up, and his interceptions are better. But his game changing powerful hits that might force a fumble or cause a dropped pass by a WR over the middle has decreased. Maybe the change will prolong his career, but it is hard to deny seeing the change. This is where it is harder to see it in the stats, and easier to see with your eyes.
Roy's game has changed. QBs do it all the time, maybe we should give Roy the benefit of the doubt here.
WoodysGirl;1670888 said:
My last thought in this thread.
I get the feeling that if Roy makes that tackle, then this thread would wouldn't be near as long, simply because there would be nothing to whine about. That one play (huge, BTW) prevents some people to have any kinda perspective on an overall solid game.
Last week's Roy Appreciation thread after no major whiffs: 40 posts.
This week's Roy Sucks thread should be 200 posts before it's all said and done.
I think all the people who call for Roy to "improve" should probably realize that after 5 years in the league, this is the Roy we're going to get. He's probably got 2-3 more consistently very good years before his play will probably begin to level off to simply average. I really doubt there's anymore "potential" to Roy.
Yes, I agree with this. Roy is what he is, still really solid, and at this point we really have to accept the good with the bad. With any secondary member, it is always better to go unnoticed.
Far too many times, Roy is noticed not only cause of his name itself, but because of his different style of play now. Roy is, and always will be, a high profile player on this team. A lightening rod for anything wrong with the secondary, this is just something that has to be accepted, not everyone is talking on this site about us, breaking down stats and such.
If you listen at the water cooler, anything wrong with the D is always coorelated to Roy. It is just the nature of the beast and hype that Roy really created to get drafted so high. As intense fans here, I know it is our duty to go against such things, but the truth is Roy has and always will be criticized harshly, even if it is just one play.
I will say this though, people have a memory, and Roy has shown a more passive style of play alot in recent years, not just one play. This is obvious to the eyes, and maybe not so obvious in the number of tackles he made. Sometimes it how you play the game, and right now, how Roy tackles is much more under debate than if he makes the tackle for the stats.