You might be right, to me it looked like a fumble but when did he actually lose possession? Was it the initial rip by the defender or was it the second effort after pulling Schults arm away from his body? If it's the first he wasn't down, from the second he was clearly down. From just the short video by the OP I can't say for sure.
no dummy. he had the ball. the ball was still in his hand, it was in process of coming lose, but the NFL rules are clear on this. it must be completely out for it to be considered otherwise. I don't make the rules. NFL does. so if you have any complaints then just send an email to Goodell, I am sure he will respond to you.
BC..I agree, anytime Shultz is running with the ball,I hold my breath..his fumbling needs to stop.
Since people here like to contend that they just want a fairly called game I'm shocked that this play hasn't been talked about. With Indy already up 3-0 and the Cowboys driving for what would be their first score, Schultz clearly fumbles this ball that the refs, who you all say swallow their whistles, immediately blow a play dead that was a fumble and Indy had pounced on. @Blackrain told me to be vigilant about what the refs might be up to in this game and will you look at this? An egregious benefit to Dallas who were trailing and about to go down 10-0 if this had stood. With the Cowboys as notorious slow starters, pass-happy Moore probably would have abandoned the run and Air (Pick City) Prescott would have been front and center in the offense. This obvious intentional blown call kept that from happening. Matthew Stafford said it best about AT&T Stadium: "Home cookin'!"
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and NFL rules clearly say, it has to be undisputable evidence to over turn a call on the field.
It looks like while his arm is being pulled away from his body, the ball itself is not actually moving from his grasp until his knee/elbow touch the ground.
Of all things to cry about,a recovered fumble isn't one of them.
Ah ok gotcha. Thanks.It's consistent with how they've called fumbles in the past. It's like "continuation" in basketball where if it starts to come out and does in the process of the player going down, they give credit for a fumble. Here's one they called on Zeke. Ball starts to come out, he touches down and then the ball comes free from his body. It's consistent.
Dez didn't fumble, it was ruled a non catch, big difference in the possession rules. Just because a ball carriers arm is pulled away from the body doesnt mean they don't have possession. If the ball is actually loose you have an argument. The video shown isnt 100% clear on that though, and that is coming from someone who thinks it was a fumble.
but once you have the ball in possession, tucked in...then its start to come loose doesn't mean its a fumble...if that was the case, anytime the ball would be loose and perhaps the WR, RB recovers it, its not considered a fumble and recovery....once you have it tucked away, you have to clearly lose possession, in this case it wasn't a clear loss of possession.
Since people here like to contend that they just want a fairly called game I'm shocked that this play hasn't been talked about. With Indy already up 3-0 and the Cowboys driving for what would be their first score, Schultz clearly fumbles this ball that the refs, who you all say swallow their whistles, immediately blow a play dead that was a fumble and Indy had pounced on. @Blackrain told me to be vigilant about what the refs might be up to in this game and will you look at this? An egregious benefit to Dallas who were trailing and about to go down 10-0 if this had stood. With the Cowboys as notorious slow starters, pass-happy Moore probably would have abandoned the run and Air (Pick City) Prescott would have been front and center in the offense. This obvious intentional blown call kept that from happening. Matthew Stafford said it best about AT&T Stadium: "Home cookin'!"
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