CFZ The root problem?

[DallasEast]

That might be true OR Might not be , prove it!

Prove that he is incorrect.

You are not required to. And neither is he.

 

[Tabascocat]

It won’t get better under Stephen, might get even worse. I’m looking forward to Spaulding though

 

[jsb357]

Without changes at the top, all we have is a desperate hope that a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut. Or Lady Luck feels sorry for us and we get lucky.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Again, I want us to win. This year. Hopefully we get lucky. I just wanted to make the point that we’ve already tried multiple HCs, coordinators, QBs, etc. There’s no magic bullet.

true hard to blame MM/Dak for 28 years of failure....this ships course was set well before they arrived.

 

[quickccc]

The root problem with this team? Sure we don’t have an “elite” QB. We don’t have the most innovative head coach, yada yada.
But my fellow fans

Since our last divisional playoff win, these are the coaches Jerry has anointed to lead us back to the promised land:

GENERAL MANAGER (1)

• Jerral Wayne Jones

Folks, without changes at the top of this organization and how it functions, hiring an innovative new head coach, acquiring a new “star” QB (which is extremely difficult for ANY organization) or hiring some hot shot coordinators are nothing more than a new coat of paint on the Titanic.

Without changes at the top, all we have is a desperate hope that a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut. Or Lady Luck feels sorry for us and we get lucky.

LOL ...Why am I Not Surprised ...??!!

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

To me nothing has changed . We are what I thought we were. Prob 3rd or 4th best team in NFC. Lions look like prob 3rd best.

But even if we have taken a step back from last year maybe we have fallen to 4th or 5th. Which is pretty much where we have been the last two seasons .

Some of us warned that we should take more notice on how other teams had improved more than we have but never had much chatter on how they had improved , only focused on us.

I like to give all head coaches and players a chance, so I enter a major change in coaching optimistic. But I got a I believe it when I see it attitude when it comes to the cowboys instead of buying into all the latest hype. When Big Mike came here, I was happy, a step up from Garret from whom we needed a change from, but I wasn't sold that this team would become a playoff success. It is more like how much of his soul did Big Mike have to sell to Jerrah to come here. The way I see it, many coaches can be great coaches, but can they be great coaches working under the conditions Jerry sets to work here? The Coach has to be the leader of the organization, and players have to fear and respect the coach. As long as Jerrah is the leader of the Dallas Cowboys, coaches are setup to fail. You could win a championship with Dak in his prime in the right condititons. I don't know about the Dak of today who looks like he lost a step. The problem in Dallas is not Talent.

 

[atlantacowboy]

The root problem with this team? Sure we don’t have an “elite” QB. We don’t have the most innovative head coach, yada yada.
But my fellow fans

Since our last divisional playoff win, these are the coaches Jerry has anointed to lead us back to the promised land:
HEAD COACHES (6)

• Chan Gailey
• Dave Campo
• Bill Parcells
• Wade Phillips
• Jason Garrett
• Mike McCarthy

DEFENSIVE COORDINATORS (8)

• Dave Campo
• Mike Zimmer
• Brian Stewart
• Rob Ryan
• Monte Kiffin
• Rod Marinelli
• Mike Nolan
• Dan Quinn

OFFENSIVE COORDINATORS (8)

• Jack Reilly
• Bruce Coslet
• Maurice Carthon
• Jason Garrett
• Bill Callahan
• Scott Linehan
• Kellen Moore
• Brian Scottenheimer

GENERAL MANAGER (1)

• Jerral Wayne Jones

Folks, without changes at the top of this organization and how it functions, hiring an innovative new head coach, acquiring a new “star” QB (which is extremely difficult for ANY organization) or hiring some hot shot coordinators are nothing more than a new coat of paint on the Titanic.

Without changes at the top, all we have is a desperate hope that a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut. Or Lady Luck feels sorry for us and we get lucky.

I truly believe in the blind squirrel hypothesis. It’s all the hope I got. Lol

 

[GMO415]

The root problem with this team? Sure we don’t have an “elite” QB. We don’t have the most innovative head coach, yada yada.
But my fellow fans

Since our last divisional playoff win, these are the coaches Jerry has anointed to lead us back to the promised land:
HEAD COACHES (6)

• Chan Gailey
• Dave Campo
• Bill Parcells
• Wade Phillips
• Jason Garrett
• Mike McCarthy

DEFENSIVE COORDINATORS (8)

• Dave Campo
• Mike Zimmer
• Brian Stewart
• Rob Ryan
• Monte Kiffin
• Rod Marinelli
• Mike Nolan
• Dan Quinn

OFFENSIVE COORDINATORS (8)

• Jack Reilly
• Bruce Coslet
• Maurice Carthon
• Jason Garrett
• Bill Callahan
• Scott Linehan
• Kellen Moore
• Brian Scottenheimer

GENERAL MANAGER (1)

• Jerral Wayne Jones

Folks, without changes at the top of this organization and how it functions, hiring an innovative new head coach, acquiring a new “star” QB (which is extremely difficult for ANY organization) or hiring some hot shot coordinators are nothing more than a new coat of paint on the Titanic.

Without changes at the top, all we have is a desperate hope that a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut. Or Lady Luck feels sorry for us and we get lucky.

Bullet, thanks so we're doomed. You're spot on.

 

[Diehardblues]

I like to give all head coaches and players a chance, so I enter a major change in coaching optimistic. But I got a I believe it when I see it attitude when it comes to the cowboys instead of buying into all the latest hype. When Big Mike came here, I was happy, a step up from Garret from whom we needed a change from, but I wasn't sold that this team would become a playoff success. It is more like how much of his soul did Big Mike have to sell to Jerrah to come here. The way I see it, many coaches can be great coaches, but can they be great coaches working under the conditions Jerry sets to work here? The Coach has to be the leader of the organization, and players have to fear and respect the coach. As long as Jerrah is the leader of the Dallas Cowboys, coaches are setup to fail. You could win a championship with Dak in his prime in the right condititons. I don't know about the Dak of today who looks like he lost a step. The problem in Dallas is not Talent.

I agree with part of your thought with our owner and the conditions or concessions MM had to make as HC.

The problem is a combination of factors including some weaknesses in talent. But that wasn’t the point I was making you responded to.

And my point based on your thoughts doesn’t necessarily apply to you, rather those who were totally sold on MM buying into the hype until Sunday night.

 

[KJJ]

The Joneses are the root of the problem. It all starts with them.

 

[Diehardblues]

The Joneses are the root of the problem. It all starts with them.

Of course. But some of our fans are gullible buying into the hype thinking our ownership was doing a better job building what they believed to be a SB contender and one of the best teams in the league, until Sunday night.

I’m not going to let them off the hook so easily. Cause they’ll be back once their cup is full of kool aid again.

 

[JW82]

The root problem with this team? Sure we don’t have an “elite” QB. We don’t have the most innovative head coach, yada yada.
But my fellow fans

Since our last divisional playoff win, these are the coaches Jerry has anointed to lead us back to the promised land:
HEAD COACHES (6)

• Chan Gailey
• Dave Campo
• Bill Parcells
• Wade Phillips
• Jason Garrett
• Mike McCarthy

DEFENSIVE COORDINATORS (8)

• Dave Campo
• Mike Zimmer
• Brian Stewart
• Rob Ryan
• Monte Kiffin
• Rod Marinelli
• Mike Nolan
• Dan Quinn

OFFENSIVE COORDINATORS (8)

• Jack Reilly
• Bruce Coslet
• Maurice Carthon
• Jason Garrett
• Bill Callahan
• Scott Linehan
• Kellen Moore
• Brian Scottenheimer

GENERAL MANAGER (1)

• Jerral Wayne Jones

Folks, without changes at the top of this organization and how it functions, hiring an innovative new head coach, acquiring a new “star” QB (which is extremely difficult for ANY organization) or hiring some hot shot coordinators are nothing more than a new coat of paint on the Titanic.

Without changes at the top, all we have is a desperate hope that a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut. Or Lady Luck feels sorry for us and we get lucky.

Yes but he's able to make decisions faster than other GMs because he's the owner! ...and that complete lack of accountably that he believes is a strength is why they have sucked for over a quarter century.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Strap in boys, this 30 year nightmare was just Act 1.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Of course. But some of our fans are gullible buying into the hype thinking our ownership was doing a better job building what they believed to be a SB contender and one of the best teams in the league, until Sunday night.

I’m not going to let them off the hook so easily. Cause they’ll be back once their cup is full of kool aid again.

They have done a better job at drafting talent as an organization. There was a time fans would face palm at some of the post Jimmy picks they cowboys were picking. We've gotten some decent picks in recent years, but winning requires a winning culture.

 

[Havic]

Snyder agreed to change name of the team in a last ditch effort to not be forced to sell it. Didn't work. Just my thoughts.

 

[Diehardblues]

They have done a better job at drafting talent as an organization. There was a time fans would face palm at some of the post Jimmy picks they cowboys were picking. We've gotten some decent picks in recent years, but winning requires a winning culture.

Drafting has been better in recent years but they still miss enough to leave some weaknesses.

 

[Diehardblues]

Snyder agreed to change name of the team in a last ditch effort to not be forced to sell it. Didn't work. Just my thoughts.

Those actually were two different issues.

 

[Xelda]

Bobhaze is exactly correct.

There needs to be a great awakening that Jerry deserves no football success for championships won in 92, 93, and 95.

Jerry has been a football failure -- no ifs, ands, or buts.

Jerry can never get out of the shadow of the great Jimmy Johnson.

In short, the Jerry fanboy club in the media, and in the public sphere need to be shamed.
For over 28 years, Jerry has been living off Jimmy's coattails and Jimmy's championship football success as the head coach/GM during Jimmy's tenure -- 1989 - 1993.

The Jerry fanboy club continually rewrites the narrative of Jerry's "success" by claiming a revisionist history of player acquisitions (like Jerry wanted Troy, drafted Emmitt, traded for Haley, etc., -- it is maddening and twisted logic), conflating Jerry the owner as the GM during Jimmy's tenure & blaming Jimmy's ego for departure.

Context matters.

The fact is when Jerry bought the team in 1989, Jimmy was contractual hired by Jerry to run all football operations -- player personnel department, scouting, hiring/firing coaching staff, and overseeing the complete drafting process.

By 1989, Jimmy had 25 years of experience in developing management operations, viable connections with collegiate, and professional football programs, and excelling in growing and maintaining solid football programs given his coaching expertise, with his successful stints at Louisiana Tech, Wichita State University, Iowa State University, University of Oklahoma, University of Arkansas, University of Pittsburgh, Oklahoma State University, and the University of Miami.

In 1989, Jimmy was a proven, reliable, endorsed, and accepted leader in the building, flourishing, orchestrating, and maintaining successful football programs, and talented football players.

In 1989, Jerry had zero experience in the management of a football organization -- Zero.

Jerry was simply an oilman wildcatter.

Jerry paid $140 million--$65 million for the team, and $75 million for Texas Stadium (he used $90 million of his own money, and borrowed the rest).

The Cowboys were losing money, and Jerry was heavily involved in reversing his, and the Cowboys' financial morass upon his purchase of the Cowboys.

Jerry managed the finances -- that is it.

From 1989 -- 1993, Jerry certainly did not have the knowledge, expertise, acumen, or the time devoted to the success of the football side of the Dallas Cowboys.

In private, Jerry deferred the football side of the Cowboys to Jimmy.

Jimmy realized the deficiency of the Cowboys roster, orchestrated the trades, hired and fired coaches/scouting department personnel, spearheaded the drafting process, and most important, coached the entire team.

Put it simple -- Jerry wanted credit, publicly & privately, for the success of Jimmy's football accomplishments (Jerry would publicly bladder to the media about Jimmy's trades, and player acquisitions of which he was not directly involved or coordinated -- Jerry openly wanted public attention, and excessive adulation).

Jerry gets credit for buying the Cowboys, and for hiring, yielding, and deferring to Jimmy as the full sole chief executive of the football operations of the Cowboys.

Jimmy left because Jerry, the owner was interfering, interjecting, intrusive, and meddling on the football operations, of which Jimmy had complete contractual control.

The workplace became intolerable, Jerry did not value Jimmy, and most relevant, Jimmy's contractual job tile, as GM/head coach, had been breached and violated by Jerry's increasing, expanding, and accelerating incursion into areas, and duties specifically contractually guaranteed solely for Jimmy.

Overall, Jerry has been living off Jimmy's coattails for over 30 years, propagandizing the media with his constant embellished bravado, & perpetual intentional misstatements of the facts during the years 1989 -- 1993, which in turn has created a false deceptive narrative, which the lazy, and pro-Jerry media, and certain fans buy hook, line, and sinker -- it is sad, pathetic, and juvenile.

The evidence of the above is indisputable given the empirical fact that Jerry has been a complete football failure (for over 27 years) even since Jimmy's football culture-creation evaporated from the organization.

Could I please get this on Audible? I'd listen to it often.

 

[Robster8989]

You’re right, Bob! The stench of mediocrity originates with Jerry. It’s depressing because there’s no relief in sight.

Right, there is no accountability.
Most GM's have to perform, if they don't, they are gone.
The saddest part is I don't think things will improve even if Jerry "retires".
I see Stephen as just as bad, or even worse.
I don't see him as a guy who thinks he will need help.
To me, he seems insecure, like he hears the voices saying he is only there because of nepotism, and will want to "prove them all wrong", so he will resist bringing in a professional who would steal his thunder (like JJ did to Jerry, which is the root of the problem here).

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Drafting has been better in recent years but they still miss enough to leave some weaknesses.

No argument there. But another organization could've done more with the talent they drafted because they're not run like a country club.