The Schoonmaker play at the 1

[Zman5]

No, he wasn’t being tackled.. and it was ruled a TD first, so thinking the refs were fixing the game is comical. And I do now what going through progressions is and Dak was only going to number 1 in his progressions, as anybody with eyes can watch him from the snap looking at Schoon the whole time, even when he’s thrown the ball. The blitz had no impact on Dak going where he was going..

This is before ball even shows up in the frame. Get some glasses if you think he isn't being tackled before the ball got there.

 

[RonnieT24]

This is before ball even shows up in the frame. Get some glasses if you think he isn't being tackled before the ball got there.

People like him will never admit they're wrong man so don't waste your time. He hates Dak, he hates the Cowboys so he is filled with glee that we didn't win and he can somehow twist it into Dak's fault. It's like a twofer for him and his ilk.

 

[blueblood70]

Yep. The refs were bad tonight, but they made equally bad calls/non-calls for both teams

I do agree with you there but the biggest thing is a lot of the penalties they didn't call on our guys or I should say against our guys or more critical like that you can't do that I mean most of theirs all seem to come on the last drive which gave us a shot but then they just took it right back I mean that was the craziest last drive of penalties I've ever seen seemed like the game went an extra 15 minutes..

You are correct I believe we had 11 and they had 10 so it looks balanced but if you look at the criticalness of the play non calls especially that one that can't happen they should obviously call the ones that could be game changing plays if they wanna be subjective and all the other calls that's fine but that play needed to be called that was big it was critical and it's also don't say this isn't like a conspiracy because I don't think it is but This is why people think that that Arizona game that Michael Gallup pass interference was a pass interference and they picked it up in front of the whole world and said it never happened and it did happen and it was at the end of the game and it was critical so yeah some of us are pretty angry about it we realized it was somewhat balanced in the end but the more critical ones went against us not for us..

 

[blueblood70]

People like him will never admit they're wrong man so don't waste your time. He hates Dak, he hates the Cowboys so he is filled with glee that we didn't win and he can somehow twist it into Dak's fault. It's like a twofer for him and his ilk.

Yeah I don't believe some fans think that that's much of contact that it doesn't affect the play when a guy's hanging on your thigh but yeah it does it means he has no leverage once he gets the ball to turn and move towards the goal line that's basically he has an anchor on him... I'm all for the referees not calling every single ticky tack play throughout the game or even missing plays but those type there needs to be a actual huddle with the referees to decide that they should have called it and then throw the flag late that was inside how many minutes I mean that should have been reviewed by New York and someone should have called him and said hey you missed that you must drop the flag it's too critical of a play and I'm still steaming over the Michael Gallup one in the Arizona game where they actually did the right thing they literally threw the flag and then in front of the whole world decide it never happened and picked the flag up that is why fans are upset because they are doing things like that in critical parts of the game these are on final drives or next to final drives when you're only down a score it's ridiculous

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

You guys are watching it in SLO-motion so everything is exaggerated. I thought it was a normal pass play.

I think the more egregious bad call was the illegal contact flag on that non-catchable ball that went out of bounds (I forgot who the Cowboys defender it was).

 

[glimmerman]

That was clearly PI.

He was down before he caught the ball because the Philly defender was already tackling him.

Refs were awful today.

And neither of the commentators pointed that out.

I'm beginning to believe these conspiracy theories about the NFL playing a major influence in the outcomes of games for sports betting purposes.

I noticed it also. Was all over his back way early. If it was us there would have been a flag.

 

[NotForLong]

That was clearly PI.

He was down before he caught the ball because the Philly defender was already tackling him.

Refs were awful today.

And neither of the commentators pointed that out.

I'm beginning to believe these conspiracy theories about the NFL playing a major influence in the outcomes of games for sports betting purposes.

It is only a Conspiracy Theory if you do not believe it

 

[Creeper]

Schoonmaker's route was fine. Notice he is looking for the ball before he gets to the goal line. That play was deisgned to be a quick throw. Had he not been tackled before the ball got there he gets into the end zone easily. He is going to the ground before the ball arrives. I think hte refs didn't throw the flag because Blankenship is looking at the ball. But looking for the ball does not absolve the defender of going through the receiver. That should have been a PI call but I think I get why the refs didn't call it.

 

[McKDaddy]

Then the ball wouldn't have been there ...... he had to hug the ground to catch it as it was.

I mean it was definitely DPI but I'm surprised more people haven't brought up this aspect. Even if Schoon had gotten an extra half yard of depth, who's to say the ball wouldn't have still been thrown to the same spot making it uncatchable. The only real hope was the throw being just high enough & outside so that Schoon can't get to it making the DPI more clear.

 

[khiladi]

This is before ball even shows up in the frame. Get some glasses if you think he isn't being tackled before the ball got there.

Thanks for that, but if you bothered to actual
read my post throughly, I don’t need two snapshots that don’t in anyway show a tackle, as I provided the ACTUAL VIDEO and the time stamp or this actual angle, which starts at 10:57 to be exact.



What you are showing is two pictures of a defender playing the ball with Schoon having one foot OFF the ground, from a camera shot that is LOWER than the players, meaning both players look higher from the ground than they actually are…. And none of it proves anything other than the LB was playing the ball. If you knew the rules, the defender can place his hands on the hip as long as he doesn’t turn the offensive player, while he’s playing the ball, which is exactly what is being shown in these snap shots, meaning none of it claims what you claim.

Which brings us to the tackle, which (see above) and the actual video.

And of course you ignored the other point, which is the refs originally ruled it a TD.. so much for bias.. The overturn happened on the play review that showed his knee down before the ball could cross the plane.

 

[conner01]

Cause what’s better than that? What a joke. Been going on like this since Parcells left. Lol, can’t take these guys serious

Every team runs plays short of the line or goal line. Many times to draw coverage away and sometimes because that’s what’s open. Had shoon not been tackled before the catch it would have been a TD

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Ignoring the talking before getting the ball part...why are we running plays shy of the endzone?

That's some JG stupidity

Olsen did a good job of explaining it it was more so on Ferguson than it was Schoonmaker...he was suppose to walk into the endzone and would've if Ferguson does what he's suppose to do. This is redzone offense though. Its not about the play or the play calling its about execution and if everyone doesn't do what they are suppose to do they will fail.

 

[KB1122]

That was an easy and clear interference call at regular speed, too.

 

[RonnieT24]

I do agree with you there but the biggest thing is a lot of the penalties they didn't call on our guys or I should say against our guys or more critical like that you can't do that I mean most of theirs all seem to come on the last drive which gave us a shot but then they just took it right back I mean that was the craziest last drive of penalties I've ever seen seemed like the game went an extra 15 minutes..

You are correct I believe we had 11 and they had 10 so it looks balanced but if you look at the criticalness of the play non calls especially that one that can't happen they should obviously call the ones that could be game changing plays if they wanna be subjective and all the other calls that's fine but that play needed to be called that was big it was critical and it's also don't say this isn't like a conspiracy because I don't think it is but This is why people think that that Arizona game that Michael Gallup pass interference was a pass interference and they picked it up in front of the whole world and said it never happened and it did happen and it was at the end of the game and it was critical so yeah some of us are pretty angry about it we realized it was somewhat balanced in the end but the more critical ones went against us not for us..

But it was not balanced. Their incompetence cost Dallas at least one touchdown and who knows how many other opportunities to score.

 

[RonnieT24]

Olsen did a good job of explaining it it was more so on Ferguson than it was Schoonmaker...he was suppose to walk into the endzone and would've if Ferguson does what he's suppose to do. This is redzone offense though. Its not about the play or the play calling its about execution and if everyone doesn't do what they are suppose to do they will fail.

I am assuming you are including the refs for ignoring the guy tackling the receiver with the ball in the air in your assessment here?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I am assuming you are including the refs for ignoring the guy tackling the receiver with the ball in the air in your assessment here?

Yeah I am. I give up on officiating. I've come to grips that we have to overcome it for whatever reason.

 

[MarcusRock]

Wonder if our favorite ref defender has had enough time to make up his bull**** talking points that don’t make sense ????

He sucks too.

Didn't we just have a discussion this week where you claimed you were innocent of ever mentioning me in the years since I roasted you in the Dez catch debate almost 5 years ago? You asked me to show you where you have amd that I was lying, didn't you? It's now been twice in the same week. So you're still not butthurt after all these years, huh?

Now don't go crawling into my PMs to call me names again because you mad, okay? Still so unhinged. Lol.

 

[Chuck 54]

Lots of Redzone scoring plays don’t happen in the endzone. Ferguson didn’t do a good job with his route which should have kept the guy who made the play on Schoonmaker take more depth to get by Ferguson. Schoonmaker cuts off of the other TE. He would have either been in the endzone or he would have caught it and leaned in if the route had been run properly. It’s always the little things. It also didn’t help that a defender came through the middle completely free and Dak had to throw the pass prematurely.
Multiple errors at crunch time across the board.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

You guys are watching it in SLO-motion so everything is exaggerated. I thought it was a normal pass play.

I think the more egregious bad call was the illegal contact flag on that non-catchable ball that went out of bounds (I forgot who the Cowboys defender it was).

You have to call that after the one they called on Kearse.

I don't think either should be called, but those are huge swings on ticky tack calls that both went against Dallas.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

I mean it was definitely DPI but I'm surprised more people haven't brought up this aspect. Even if Schoon had gotten an extra half yard of depth, who's to say the ball wouldn't have still been thrown to the same spot making it uncatchable. The only real hope was the throw being just high enough & outside so that Schoon can't get to it making the DPI more clear.

Regardless of the DPI.

The route was bad because Schoon went straight to the sideline. You have to angle up the field so that you can use leverage to shield the defender. The route being that flat a) makes it a harder throw b) doesn't get into the endzone at the catch and c) puts the defender in a better position.