The scouting report on Taco is much different than what many people are claiming

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I am not knocking your comparisons. They are just not necessarily pursuasive. His measurables are probably inferior to Victor Butler and Victor Butler totally sucked. I realize time will tell the tale on this. I honestly hope you are right on this one. I just don't get a warm fuzzy feeling about this pick as a right DE.

I do think his floor is probably a serviceable left DE who is strong against the run, but you can get guys like that in the 3rd or 4th round. I really think we probably reached with this pick.

Victor Butler weighed 248 and ran a 4.84 forty.

You are basing your opinion totally on forty times.

You probably hated the Travis Frederick pick.

You really would have hated it if they had drafted Reggie White back then because he ran a 4.9 forty.
 

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No, he did NOT.

He weighed 251 when he ran at the combine.

He played at about 260 in the NFL.


You are going off of published stats, I assume. The word on the street was that Ware played over 270 and ran in the 4.5s. But regardless he was super fast (freakishly) for a man as big as he was. That much really isn't a source of debate. My point is that Ware was successful in part because he was big AND FAST. He was a hall of fame caliber player.

I have never said Taco can't be successful because of his speed (or lack thereof), but it certainly is a factor that won't work to his benefit.
 

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Victor Butler weighed 248 and ran a 4.84 forty.

You are basing your opinion totally on forty times.

You probably hated the Travis Frederick pick.

You really would have hated it if they had drafted Reggie White back then because he ran a 4.9 forty.


No. But I am saying it concerns me, quite a bit. You see Greg Hardy. I hope you are right. But if Greg Hardy was .2 seconds faster he would have been D. Ware, with bad character.
 

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Greg Ellis 2.0..........


I think you are being optimistic. I think Almost Anthony Spencer might be a better comparison. Again, thats not a total waste, but it doesn't do much to fix the right side if that is what we got with our first round pick. That's ok, if Taco anchors the left side and Tapper can excel on the right side.

Someone has to be able to play right end (and play it reasonably well) if we are going to have a pretty solid defense this year. So far Tapper seems to be the only one with the potential to do that well, and he was out all last year.
 

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What reports? I saw massive speculation but I don't recall any legit reports.
The Cowboys wanted and need a speed edge rusher.

That is not Taco.

He's useful hopefully, but he's not that.
 

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Suspended: Gregory, Irving, Moore

Potential: Taco, Tapper, Collins

Average: Crawford, Lawrence, Thornton

Proven:
 

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Simple fact is that most DE don't win many battles against offensive NFL tackles. If a player has one sack per game he is an all-pro. Guessing on average that an opponent passes 32 times. (Yes, I'm too lazy to look up the exact number). That means the tackle won 31 of the 32 times. pretty simplistic reasoning, but if a DE can win one time in 32 tries, he's doing great. Too early to say how any of them are doing or project their career for boom or bust.

Maybe diff levels of "win...........a sack is top of the line, but sprinkle in a few pressures from several players during the game separtes the Doomesday/ Legion of Boom from the run of the mill defenses

Cowboys D-line ave in sack totals, but number of pressures need to increase substantially.
 

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We already knew Taco wasn't a stud pass rusher; that's what happens when you aren't drafting higher in round one. We took the best of what was left to us. If he becomes a JEffcoat or Tolbert, that's great. If he turns into something more, that will be a pleasant surprise. He's a rookie DE who was not one of the top guys available. Our expectations for the pass rush this year should be low.

Frankly, I think NY has a better team. I see it as Giants favored, Cowboys and Eagles playing for a wildcard; Commanders in the cellar.
 

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To me... He looked like a poor man's Joey Bosa coming out of Michigan.

A lot of their measurables are similar as well.


We will see with him. At worst he is going to be a solid piece that fits up and down the line.



One thing does stand out though in these videos... He needs as much work on his strength as he does with his technique.

I imagine the jump from year 1 to year 2 is going to be significant with Taco.

Bingo!!!!!!
 

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Definite over reaction. This guy wasn't supposed to be No 1 overall, it will take time.
 

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The Cowboys wanted and need a speed edge rusher.

That is not Taco.

He's useful hopefully, but he's not that.


They appear to have drafted a good, solid, maybe even dominant against the run left end. But we already had several of those (sans the dominant part).
 

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Every player in draft is iffy there are no sure things in the NFL draft. Charlton was a projected 1st rd pick how will his career fair I can't say. I think he has the tools and if he can show the work ethic he will give himself a chance at being a star player. Notice I only say he gives himself a chance by putting in the work.


Lets just first say "we agree"

That aside, you are probably more correct than I am, but i see some players as a sure thing but only to the fact of reality not expectations. What drives the draft is expectation, what really happens is reality. I hope you can agree to that.

I dont expect every player Dallas drafts to make the HoF. I do expect some players regardless where they draft to be a sure thing even if that sure thing is not stat food. By that i mean they live and die by the stats which some people want to relegate a players career to
 

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I was skeptical when we drafted him and continue to be so. We will rue not taking Watt. Before any of you yahoos click reply and start whining about Watt's measurables and how he can ONLY play OLB in a 3-4, his measurables are almost identical to your idol "Smokey" Gregory.

We shall see.
 

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Some of the opinions in this thread are hilarious. :lmao: Can the kid play a couple of games before he becomes a wasted pick.


There is nothing wrong with having optimism, or pessimism regarding a pick. You can take whatever approach you want to take as it pertains to a player.

I am optimistic about Tapper. He may totally suck. But time will tell. Discussing the various views on players is what makes this site fun.

XWalker is much more optimistic on Taco than I am. But I enjoy his posts as much as any poster on this website. We generally agree on most things here. But it's always fun to discuss it.

If Taco gets 16 sacks this year I will be cheering just as loud as anyone in my seats as a season ticket holder. If you don't want to have an opinion that's fine. But don't get all upset over a discussion about our favorite team.
 
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