The script is written already

[Diehardblues]

You're moving the goalposts. You said he has a one-year mentality - draft and develop is antithetical to that.

No it doesn't. Exhibit A: Johnny Manziel.

This is dumb. It implies that there is a correct way to run things, and that they Cowboys are the least successful team in the league over that time. People act like hiring a "football guy" is the smartest thing they could do. You know who isn't a football guy? Howie Roseman. You know who is? Dave Gettleman

Irrelevant to the point. Do I think he's a good GM? Not particularly. But that has nothing to do with the structure.

No, but it's silly to say they haven't done anything in 30 years when you could just as easily say they've won 3 Super Bowls in 35.

"Blame for everything" is ridiculous. Does he get blame for Romo's back or Dak breaking his leg? This is a consistently good team, just hasn't gotten over the hump.

My one year mantra mentality is more directed at his hype which drives much of his football decisions . Not always directly but overall rhetoric and perception.

But there’s a reason they haven’t gotten over the hump. And if any other GM had been here we would be making changes . Does that guarantee anything , no. But it at least provides a renewed hope much like changing coaching staffs.

This model hasn’t been working unless you have a HC with total control over personnel like with Jimmy. But Jethro didn’t like winning championships when he wasn’t the face of the franchise receiving more credit.

It wasn’t enough to simply provide the deals your HC wanted which Jethro did. Not all owners or GM’s would have agreed to trading Herschel for example. Not sure Tex would have . Again, he deserves credit for that.

And while he doesn’t deserve the blame for a QB getting hurt he is where the buck stops which he completely accepts . Something I admire him for never side stepping being in the fire.

We can love our Cowboys while calling out our owner. We don’t have to like or support all of the moving pieces to support the sum. Jethro is our core issue this Century. Most everyone sees it. You even admit he’s not a good GM but still feed need to defend him?

And I didn’t say they haven’t done anything. But they are one of only a few teams which haven’t at least made a conference championship game this Century. We have set futility marks in the playoffs.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

My one year mantra mentality is more directed at his hype which drives much of his football decisions . Not always directly but overall rhetoric and perception.

But there’s a reason they haven’t gotten over the hump. And if any other GM had been here we would be making changes . Does that guarantee anything , no. But it at least provides a renewed hope much like changing coaching staffs.

This model hasn’t been working unless you have a HC with total control over personnel like with Jimmy. But Jethro didn’t like winning championships when he wasn’t the face of the franchise receiving more credit.

It wasn’t enough to simply provide the deals your HC wanted which Jethro did. Not all owners or GM’s would have agreed to trading Herschel for example. Not sure Tex would have . Again, he deserves credit for that.

And while he doesn’t deserve the blame for a QB getting hurt he is where the buck stops which he completely accepts . Something I admire him for never side stepping being in the fire.

We can love our Cowboys while calling out our owner. We don’t have to like or support all of the moving pieces to support the sum. Jethro is our core issue this Century. Most everyone sees it. You even admit he’s not a good GM but still feed need to defend him?

And I didn’t say they haven’t done anything. But they are one of only a few teams which haven’t at least made a conference championship game this Century. We have set futility marks in the playoffs.

No, it doesn't. If it did, they would trade draft picks for vets and be active with FAs.

They have completely overhauled the way they approach team building in the last decade. You can't functionally change more than that. Changing for the sake of change accomplishes nothing.

False. This is the Chiefs model, and that's all Brett Veach.

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Doesn't matter. The only metric that matters historically is SB wins, and what any team did in the playoffs in previous years means nothing for future years.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Isn't that the definition of being mediocre?

me·di·o·cre
/ˌmēdēˈōkər/
adjective
of only moderate quality; not very good.

Idk man call it whatever you want. It's the NFL. Every year, there's only 5-6 teams any better than mediocre.

 

[Diehardblues]

No, it doesn't. If it did, they would trade draft picks for vets and be active with FAs.

They have completely overhauled the way they approach team building in the last decade. You can't functionally change more than that. Changing for the sake of change accomplishes nothing.

False. This is the Chiefs model, and that's all Brett Veach.

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Doesn't matter. The only metric that matters historically is SB wins, and what any team did in the playoffs in previous years means nothing for future years.

And you believe their new team building ways in last decade have produced significant results in the playoffs?

For most GM’s and HC’s what they do in previous seasons does determine their future .

And changing to change is what the rest of the world does when the results aren’t meeting your goals and or expectations .

Not here in Dallas where regardless the results their jobs are secure . You believe this is a favorable position to be in?

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

And you believe their new team building ways in last decade have produced significant results in the playoffs?

For most GM’s and HC’s what they do in previous seasons does determine their future .

And changing to change is what the rest of the world does when the results aren’t meeting your goals and or expectations .

Not here in Dallas where regardless the results their jobs are secure . You believe this is a favorable position to be in?

No but that has no impact on the future.

No, it determines opportunities in the future.

That's stupid.

It doesn't matter.

 

[Diehardblues]

No but that has no impact on the future.

No, it determines opportunities in the future.

That's stupid.

It doesn't matter.

Of course it matters.

 

[5Stars]

Of course it matters.

I guess he is a person that does not learn from past mistakes.

 

[Diehardblues]

I guess he is a person that does not learn from past mistakes.

I think some fans feel they need to defend every aspect of the Cowboys. There are areas which deserve to be critiqued. And the results are included.

Those in mgmt understand that sometimes change need to be made if goals and expectations aren’t met.

Our owner has even admitted he’d of fired a GM with his record this era but still refuses to step aside.

 

[KJJ]

As down as the fan base is about this upcoming season, everyone better try and enjoy it because this may be the last legitimate shot we have to do anything for quite some time. Fans may up being a lot more discouraged entering the 2025 season with a less appealing head coach than McCarthy and a new QB that’s not nearly as good as the one we have now. DLaw and several other players could be gone. We may end up in a battle just to stay out of the basement in the NFC East in 2025 if we’re playing musical chairs at QB all season. We could see a repeat of the early 2000s.

 

[KJJ]

There was definitely more hype in camp last season

The fan base is still hung over from the playoff loss and the lack of activity and free agency hasn’t generated any excitement. Hopefully the team isn’t still hung over from the playoff loss.

 

[LonnieElam]

Good. Texans fans are already planning to takeover our stadium. They smell blood. This season is going to have a lot of embarrassing moments. One side story will be the invasion of Houston fans for that game.

It's a Monday night game, so it might not be as bad as you'd expect. Either way, I don't care.

 

[Cowfan75Lives]

Uh, because context matters. If you're trying to be "logical," then peers matter.

No, it is not logical to expect a team who has gone 12-5 three straight years to win 7 games lol. How can anybody honestly believe that?

Anyone who has been following this team for a reasonable amount of time can't honestly believe 7-10 isn't logical.

 

[Diehardblues]

Anyone who has been following this team for a reasonable amount of time can't honestly believe 7-10 isn't logical.

Whether it’s logical or not it’s very possible. Many have predicted 8 or 9 wins so only 7 isn’t much of a stretch especially with a lame duck HC and possibly QB too.

And it only takes a key injury or two to change our fortune. The script for 2024 looks potentially more like a dumpster fire than progressing from or even maintaining 12-5 .

Over/under is 9.5 wins. I’d be more apt to go under than over especially if we don’t resign Dak or CD.

 

[Zordon]

It's a Monday night game, so it might not be as bad as you'd expect. Either way, I don't care.

Im just relaying what they’re planning on their forums.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Anyone who has been following this team for a reasonable amount of time can't honestly believe 7-10 isn't logical.

Anything can happen, sure.

But the idea that a team that went 12-5 three years in a row is just all of a sudden going to collapse isn't just illogical, it's stupid. It's not based on anything.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Whether it’s logical or not it’s very possible. Many have predicted 8 or 9 wins so only 7 isn’t much of a stretch especially with a lame duck HC and possibly QB too.

And it only takes a key injury or two to change our fortune. The script for 2024 looks potentially more like a dumpster fire than progressing from or even maintaining 12-5 .

Over/under is 9.5 wins. I’d be more apt to go under than over especially if we don’t resign Dak or CD.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised at all to see 10 wins out of this team, despite the negativity they are pretty good afterall. That said though they really struggle with depth at certain positions and with coaches on expiring deals and star players focused on contract situations there could be some business decisions made if this team gets off to a slow start.

 

[LonnieElam]

Im just relaying what they’re planning on their forums.

Oh word? Yeah, it'll be 2014 game 1 against SF when it was 80% niners fans then.

 

[Brax]

Yet, the usual negative "fans" refuse to stop watching/following the Cowboys, and they have no shame coming here as usual to spew their doom-n-gloom hatred and unhappiness, trying everything they can to make this forum as miserable as they are.

What's new?

Thanks Pollyanna for setting the record straight keep selling sunshine and lollipops all is well in Cowboys land and we should be happy with all that success the last 28 years, you’re all in again drinking Jerry’s kool-aid can’t wait for the season end melt down you do every season ending choke job

 

[Diehardblues]

There’s room for all types of fans . From overly homerish to overly critical

The best example I’ve always used is attending games where there is all types of fans rooting for same team. Some I’d rather not sit by cause how they conduct themselves. And try to ignore.

But they paid for their tickets too and have the right within the law or in this case rules to express their opinions.

I’ve always been a proponent of looking for what brings us together and not dividing us cause ultimately we are rooting for the same team .

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Oh yes, the Saudis will sure care about winning.

They can't do any worse.