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OP writes like a middle schooler trying to be dramatic. This isn't a romantic novella. Sensationalism for likes - that's the board now.
 

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What is your point? Who cares about what other teams do? The point is that it is not illogical to think this team, the very same team that got blasted at home by the Packers and did nothing but get worse this offseason, could slip to 7-10. Or worse.
Uh, because context matters. If you're trying to be "logical," then peers matter.

No, it is not logical to expect a team who has gone 12-5 three straight years to win 7 games lol. How can anybody honestly believe that?
 

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I can only hope some of the rumors swirling recently are true that Jethro is considering selling the team to a hedge fund from Saudi if he can get the 10+ billion reportedly seeking.

Perhaps he’s finally become under the realization he’s not able to build a SB contender his way. And doesn’t want to leave the burden to his heirs.

This was always his dream to be a celebrity sports figure and football guy. And he’s achieved about everything he could have imagined reaching the pinnacle of the sports world .

Once that dream appears to have matured or met it’s realization as he isnt getting any younger nor wanting to turn it over to his offspring he could be looking to get out securing a fortune for many generations to come.
Oh yes, the Saudis will sure care about winning.
 

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I'm taking my boy to a pre-season game on his birthday (he was born in the middle of the Cowboys/Cardinals preseason game in 2018), but other than that I'm just hoping to sell all my tickets (and my seat license, but that's a whole other story). I couldn't care less about training camp. I don't know why people go, tbh. My apathy is at an all-time high.
Already sold almost all of my season tickets. I'll watch, but nothing like usual.
Good. Texans fans are already planning to takeover our stadium. They smell blood. This season is going to have a lot of embarrassing moments. One side story will be the invasion of Houston fans for that game.
 

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But there would be hope they’d hire a more NFL type FO. I can’t imagine one of them thinking their face would be best for revenue.
They'll do the same thing they do with all of the soccer teams they own in Europe and with LIV. Hire someone, tell them to spend spend spend on players to draw eyeballs/sell jersey and then capitalize on opportunities for their brands - like Emirates and Qatar airways.

It won't work as well, because of the cap, but it doesn't matter who they hire, because they aren't going to give autonomy.
 

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They'll do the same thing they do with all of the soccer teams they own in Europe and with LIV. Hire someone, tell them to spend spend spend on players to draw eyeballs/sell jersey and then capitalize on opportunities for their brands - like Emirates and Qatar airways.

It won't work as well, because of the cap, but it doesn't matter who they hire, because they aren't going to give autonomy.
Sounds very similar to our current situation. Lol
 

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Sounds very similar to our current situation. Lol
Not even a little bit but ok.

Every owner in professional sports is there to make money, not to put a winning product on the field. I don't know why Cowboys fans can't accept that reality and act like Jerry is all that different.
 

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Not even a little bit but ok.

Every owner in professional sports is there to make money, not to put a winning product on the field. I don't know why Cowboys fans can't accept that reality and act like Jerry is all that different.
Yes as owner that’s his first task at hand . But next it’s hiring a FO which task is building a team.

Jethro wearing both hats is a conflict of interest for Cowboys Football. And why the rest of the league isn’t following his model in football operations .
 

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Yes as owner that’s his first tsk at hand . But next it’s hiring a FO which task is building a team.

Jethro wearing both hats is a conflict of interest for Cowboys Football. And why the rest of the league isn’t following his model in football operations .
No it isn't, not differently than any other team because every owner is just going to fire the GM when the on-field product isn't good for revenue.

The relationship between Jerry and McClay is no different than any other owner/GM.
 

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I feel for fans like Erod who are stuck with their season tickets but there was a group of us long time Season Ticket holders from Texas Stadium who refused to go to new stadium and warned about how the PSL’s wouldn’t allow the opportunity to walk away.

I just assumed Cowboys fans this era were more interested in the entertainment value than the winning culture of previous leaderships.

And why it’s very difficult for me to take our franchise too seriously anymore. I’m not even sure winning championships is a priority or our leadership would consider stepping down.
 

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No it isn't, not differently than any other team because every owner is just going to fire the GM when the on-field product isn't good for revenue.

The relationship between Jerry and McClay is no different than any other owner/GM.
Partly correct. Yes, they fire GM’s . And Jethro stated he’d of fired a GM with his record this era.

Continuing to try and bring in new GM’s doesn’t guarantee success but it at least provides new opportunities for a better direction to finally get it right.

Wearing both hats is a direct conflict of interest for the owners hat often supersedes the GM’s hat with generating hype over strategy.

We become a franchise with leadership more concerned about public perception than content . And basically only planning one season at a time as Jethro has even admitted he can only sell and hype one year at a time .

And McClay is basically just a head talent scout. He’s not making those GM personnel and contract decisions .
 

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Partly correct. Yes, they fire GM’s . And Jethro stated he’d of fired a GM with his record this era.

Continuing to fry and being in new GM’s doesn’t guarantee success but it at least provides new opportunities for a better direction to finally get it right.

Wearing both hats is a direct conflict of interest for the owners hat often supersedes the GM’s hat with generating hype over strategy.

We become a franchise with leadership more concerned about public perception than content . And basically only planning one season at a time as Jethro has even admitted he can only sell and hype one year at a time .
You are wrong.

The Cowboys' model is draft and develop. It's why they don't spend in FA and completely contradicts the "one season at a time" idea you're referring to. Jerry doing marketing work doesn't change that.
 

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Yes as owner that’s his first task at hand . But next it’s hiring a FO which task is building a team.

Jethro wearing both hats is a conflict of interest for Cowboys Football. And why the rest of the league isn’t following his model in football operations .

If the front office’s main priority was just turning a profit, you’d think that we would not have so many repeat winners. 9 of the past 23 SB’s were won by two squads…It’s extremely good for business to win or compete for SB’s. Perhaps the reason training camp has so few fans attending is because they see a team not competing so much for SB’s as a team interested in competing for a playoff spot and collecting their check.

Most fans do not care as much about regular season wins as playoff wins, and the fan base is sufficiently big enough and young enough to continue to drive revenue. Wonder what happens when those of us that remember the 90’s dynasty mostly die off. Got awhile till then, but even Stephen is not stupid enough to fail to realize they eventually need to go further to sustain high interest.
 

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If the front office’s main priority was just turning a profit, you’d think that we would not have so many repeat winners. 9 of the past 23 SB’s were won by two squads…It’s extremely good for business to win or compete for SB’s. Perhaps the reason training camp has so few fans attending is because they see a team not competing so much for SB’s as a team interested in competing for a playoff spot and collecting their check.

Most fans do not care as much about regular season wins as playoff wins, and the fan base is sufficiently big enough and young enough to continue to drive revenue. Wonder what happens when those of us that remember the 90’s dynasty mostly die off. Got awhile till then, but even Stephen is not stupid enough to fail to realize they eventually need to go further to sustain high interest.
At one time this was correct but this era would represent the winningest teams aren’t necessarily the top revenue teams.

The Chiefs for example aren’t even in top half of the league. Here top 10 from last year. Full list is on link. It’s eye opening.

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https://www.visualcapitalist.com/which-nfl-team-takes-home-the-most-revenue/
 

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You are wrong.

The Cowboys' model is draft and develop. It's why they don't spend in FA and completely contradicts the "one season at a time" idea you're referring to. Jerry doing marketing work doesn't change that.
Yea , and how is that draft and develop model working out basically staying inactive in FA?

Yes , his hype and pleas to public perception over rides better football Mgmt.

And how any Cowboys fans after almost 3 decades couldn’t see that his stranglehold over football operations is our greatest obstacle to overcome completely baffles me .

I’ve heard there’s still some Jethro apologist out there. I don’t know any personally here in Texas .

I guess they’re going to give him a pass for life cause of the early success he has with Jimmy, which was best decision he ever made.

He deserves credit for that and blame for everything since.
 

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Yea , and how is that draft and develop model working out basically staying inactive in FA?

Yes , his hype and pleas to public perception over rides better football Mgmt.

And how any Cowboys fans after almost 3 decades couldn’t see that his stranglehold over football operations is our greatest obstacle to overcome completely baffles me .

I’ve heard there’s still some Jethro apologist out there. I don’t know any personally here in Texas .

I guess they’re going to give him a pass for life cause of the early success he has with Jimmy, which was best decision he ever made.

He deserves credit for that and blame for everything since.
You're moving the goalposts. You said he has a one-year mentality - draft and develop is antithetical to that.

No it doesn't. Exhibit A: Johnny Manziel.

This is dumb. It implies that there is a correct way to run things, and that they Cowboys are the least successful team in the league over that time. People act like hiring a "football guy" is the smartest thing they could do. You know who isn't a football guy? Howie Roseman. You know who is? Dave Gettleman

Irrelevant to the point. Do I think he's a good GM? Not particularly. But that has nothing to do with the structure.

No, but it's silly to say they haven't done anything in 30 years when you could just as easily say they've won 3 Super Bowls in 35.

"Blame for everything" is ridiculous. Does he get blame for Romo's back or Dak breaking his leg? This is a consistently good team, just hasn't gotten over the hump.
 

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You're moving the goalposts. You said he has a one-year mentality - draft and develop is antithetical to that.

No it doesn't. Exhibit A: Johnny Manziel.

This is dumb. It implies that there is a correct way to run things, and that they Cowboys are the least successful team in the league over that time. People act like hiring a "football guy" is the smartest thing they could do. You know who isn't a football guy? Howie Roseman. You know who is? Dave Gettleman

Irrelevant to the point. Do I think he's a good GM? Not particularly. But that has nothing to do with the structure.

No, but it's silly to say they haven't done anything in 30 years when you could just as easily say they've won 3 Super Bowls in 35.

"Blame for everything" is ridiculous. Does he get blame for Romo's back or Dak breaking his leg? This is a consistently good team, just hasn't gotten over the hump.
Isn't that the definition of being mediocre?

me·di·o·cre
/ˌmēdēˈōkər/
adjective
of only moderate quality; not very good.
 
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