The Secondary has to fix itself right now

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I dont think we need to fix the secondary as much as we need to fix the problem at DC. Get a real DC instead of that idiot Mike Zimmer and you will see a much better D and secondary.

I am very glad we are 2-1. I hope we can win in a shootout against the Raiders and go to 3-1.

Hopefully now 3 games into the season Parcells will see that even though he changed to a more attack kinda Defense and did everything he could to get even more talent on D and yet Zimmers defense still sucks. Get humiliated by the 49ers #31 ranked offense.


I would not be surprised if Bledsoe sets the record for most 300 yard passing games in a season cuz we are gonna need them with the our Defense is run.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
Obviously Rack wants more sacks and pressures... so do I. But I think we have problems that are more serious at this point.

Well I guess we all would but my point is realistic expectations. We are looking at getting around 150% as many sacks as last year and QBs no longer are getting 8 seconds without having to scramble like they were last year regularly.

Given all that it looks like the only acceptable scenario for him is getting into the QBs face almost every time instead of more often than not. It unreasonable.
 

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Wolverine said:
I dont think we need to fix the secondary as much as we need to fix the problem at DC. Get a real DC instead of that idiot Mike Zimmer and you will see a much better D and secondary.

I am very glad we are 2-1. I hope we can win in a shootout against the Raiders and go to 3-1.

Hopefully now 3 games into the season Parcells will see that even though he changed to a more attack kinda Defense and did everything he could to get even more talent on D and yet Zimmers defense still sucks. Get humiliated by the 49ers #31 ranked offense.


I would not be surprised if Bledsoe sets the record for most 300 yard passing games in a season cuz we are gonna need them with the our Defense is run.


Don't you think that if Zimmer was that bad that Purcells would replace him?


I mean come'on already!
 

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Rack said:
Again, you people keep bringing up sacks. Most sacks does NOT mean most pressure.


I want pressure. Sacks are nice too, but PRESSURE is what forces QBs to throw early and make mistakes.
I brought up sacks again, because you tried to make that point with the Ravens argument. I showed stats that proved that your argument was flawed.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins said:
Well I guess we all would but my point is realistic expectations. We are looking at getting around 150% as many sacks as last year and QBs no longer are getting 8 seconds without having to scramble like they were last year regularly.

Given all that it looks like the only acceptable scenario for him is getting into the QBs face almost every time instead of more often than not. It unreasonable.


Agreed. And that is unreasonable. I don't know where Rack gets his views about this stuff.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
Agreed. And that is unreasonable. I don't know where Rack gets his views about this stuff.
What I don't understand is how people don't think that having a FS with 0 int's and 0 passed defensed through 3 games is not a huge problem.
 

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AtlCB said:
What I don't understand is how people don't think that having a FS with 0 int's and 0 passed defensed through 3 games is not a huge problem.


Again, Ed Reed has 0 ints and only 1 pass defensed. Is he a problem in Baltimore?


I'm not saying Davis is NOT a problem, only that he's not as big a problem as the pass rush.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
Don't you think that if Zimmer was that bad that Purcells would replace him?


I mean come'on already!


HE will be gone after this year.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
Agreed. And that is unreasonable. I don't know where Rack gets his views about this stuff.

I do.

Look no farther than him being an ex semipro DE.

Therefore his opinions are more valid than anyone elses and anything related to the position ie the pass rush is most important.

At least he quit saying hed actually admit it if he was wrong.
 

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If Parcells had an option he KNEW was better, Zimmer would of been replaced.
 

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Rack said:
Again, Ed Reed has 0 ints and only 1 pass defensed. Is he a problem in Baltimore?


I'm not saying Davis is NOT a problem, only that he's not as big a problem as the pass rush.
Ed Reed is certainly one of the problems this year in Baltimore as well as several others on offense and defense. The entire team hasn't played well yet, but I expect Ed Reed to turn it around as well as the rest of the defense in Baltimore. Ed Reed also gets a pass, because he has proven that he can play FS in this league.

Also, bring up these stats again after Ed Reed has played his 3rd game.
 

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After reviewing the first of Calico's videos I reviewd SF's first drive and noticed that of there 5 pass plays on two of them he was pressured. One was where Glover didnt pull up and got the flag but he had a straight shot and beat his man easy. Then on the TD pass Ware beat his man to the corner and forced Rattay to scrambe right.

Davis on the other hand couldnt keep up on a crossing route and the TD catch was made.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins said:
After reviewing the first of Calico's videos I reviewd SF's first drive and noticed that of there 5 pass plays on two of them he was pressured. One was where Glover didnt pull up and got the flag but he had a straight shot and beat his man easy. Then on the TD pass Ware beat his man to the corner and forced Rattay to scrambe right.

Davis on the other hand couldnt keep up on a crossing route and the TD catch was made.


Good analysis.
 

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Ed Reed is certainly one of the problems this year in Baltimore as well as several others on offense and defense. The entire team hasn't played well yet, but I expect Ed Reed to turn it around as well as the rest of the defense in Baltimore. Ed Reed also gets a pass, because he has proven that he can play FS in this league.

Also, bring up these stats again after Ed Reed has played his 3rd game.

Ed Reed has had the luxury of free-lancing his entire career. What you are seeing is responsiblity catching up to the man. Roy Williams had a brilliant rookie season both in coverage and pressing up in the box. His next year he was a big part of a very good defense. Last year saw him out of position, and this year he's back where he belongs. He caught a disproportionate and ridiculous amount of blame for two plays in the Washington game, otherwise be's been sacking, deflecting passes (OK, dropping interceptions but he's closing in), forcing fumbles, and blowing people up when he hits them. He's been great back there and we'll see even more as the year progresses.
 

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Wolverine said:
I want to point out YOU have ZERO proof Rack is wrong on this.

You have ZERO idea how to argue then. He made the assertion and he has to affirm it with proof. He has no proof of this. Its called have a take and back it up.

The alternative is to have to prove a negative which is nearly impossible from any stance.

I could just as easily say that Parcells likes Mike Zimmer and there is actually quite a bit of proof of that
 

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ravidubey said:
Ed Reed has had the luxury of free-lancing his entire career. What you are seeing is responsiblity catching up to the man. Roy Williams had a brilliant rookie season both in coverage and pressing up in the box. His next year he was a big part of a very good defense. Last year saw him out of position, and this year he's back where he belongs. He caught a disproportionate and ridiculous amount of blame for two plays in the Washington game, otherwise be's been sacking, deflecting passes (OK, dropping interceptions but he's closing in), forcing fumbles, and blowing people up when he hits them. He's been great back there and we'll see even more as the year progresses.
I agree. I think our biggest problem is free safety - not strong safety.
 

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Ed Reed is certainly one of the problems this year in Baltimore as well as several others on offense and defense.


:rolleyes:


Then on the TD pass Ware beat his man to the corner and forced Rattay to scrambe right


Rattay never even saw Ware.

By the way, which way to you NOT want a right handed QB to run? Which way did we let Rattay run?


I just want to point out that he has ZERO proof of this.


I'm the ONLY one in this thread that has even attempted to post any kind of evidence whatsoever.

What have you done? Nothing, as usual.


Ed Reed has had the luxury of free-lancing his entire career. What you are seeing is responsiblity catching up to the man.


That's not what it is at all. He had the luxury of a pass rush before. Now he doesn't so he's not able to jump routes anymore cuz he knows the QB isn't being forced to throw early.


Free Safety is a problem. But our biggest problem is a lack of a pass rush.
 
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