The secret sauce for the Cowboys is a person, and a collaboration, you may not expect

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That’s right……no one is to be blamed for failure

its like inflation……no explanation for it. :facepalm:
Another dumb comment. You can blame, just blame the right person.

McClay and Dak and Romo werent here the last 30 years. Only one guy in charge that whole time.
 

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What has Will McClay produced? This team still has a divisional round wall, going back to the 20th century.
He actually hasn't produced anything because he is not the GM, nor is he the acting GM. Just how much power do people think he has?

I would like to know the recommendations he made that Booger didn't follow, especially Lynch and Cook in the draft.

I think some sing his praises because they think he's that guy that keeps Booger from himself that Parcells was at one time and even he couldn't stop him.

There is this perception that the son and McClay are actually running the team and I wonder what other egomaniacal narcissist they've been watching?

Booger is the face and voice of this franchise and the only wiggle room his son and McClay have is what he allows them to have.

There isn't a major decision made about this team that he doesn't sign off on and it would not surprise me that McC may be submitting weekly game plans to him for his approval.

Much is made of his age at 80 and that's wind down time. Not for him because I do not think he approaches mortality.
 

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So Jerry is to blame for the piss poor execution in the 49-ers game?
Ultimately? Yes, he is the GM. Other GM's get fired because of who they hired.

John Lynch got credit for putting that team together which extends to their performance on the field. Why shouldn't the GM get the blame if credit is due also?
 

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Ultimately? Yes, he is the GM. Other GM's get fired because of who they hired.

John Lynch got credit for putting that team together which extends to their performance on the field. Why shouldn't the GM get the blame if credit is due also?
Fair point!
 

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I don't have an opinion one way or the other on this.... but I think your use of the word "playoff run" is very liberal. Usually that means advancing in the playoffs and winning multiple playoff games. In fact...I would say it would be impossible to call a postseason appearance a "playoff run" without at least making the conference Championship game.

Getting into the playoffs and immediately losing is not "a playoff run". Gettin a single wild card win against a horrible Tampa bay team only to immediately lose again to the first good playoff team they faced is not a playoff run.

Let's not cheapen the phrase just to make ourselves feel better.
This is too try hard. Tells me you don't really believe it.

Playoff runs can be short or long. The phrase you are describing is a "deep playoff run."

You are no good at deductions.
 

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He actually hasn't produced anything because he is not the GM, nor is he the acting GM. Just how much power do people think he has?

I would like to know the recommendations he made that Booger didn't follow, especially Lynch and Cook in the draft.

I think some sing his praises because they think he's that guy that keeps Booger from himself that Parcells was at one time and even he couldn't stop him.

There is this perception that the son and McClay are actually running the team and I wonder what other egomaniacal narcissist they've been watching?

Booger is the face and voice of this franchise and the only wiggle room his son and McClay have is what he allows them to have.

There isn't a major decision made about this team that he doesn't sign off on and it would not surprise me that McC may be submitting weekly game plans to him for his approval.

Much is made of his age at 80 and that's wind down time. Not for him because I do not think he approaches mortality.
Since before purchasing the Cowboys, Jerry Jones has sought imput from many sources on aspects of the game and it's management. He studied intensively and really isn't naive or ill informed the least bit. Just to be truthful.

Through the years, he has kept receiving imputs of some very good heads in the sport of football.

Jones purchased the Cowboys from H.R. “Bum” Bright for $140 million in February 1989. It was the largest deal ever for an NFL team at the time of purchase. At the time of the sale, Bright claimed the franchise was losing $1 million a month. Soon after the purchase, Jones fired NFL legend Tom Landry, the only coach in the franchise’s history. In his place, Jones hired his old teammate from Arkansas, Jimmy Johnson. After a slow start, going 1-15 in their first season, it took no time for the duo to turn the Cowboys into one of the best teams of the ’90s.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/who-is-the-dallas-cowboys-owner-history-of-jerry-jones/

Bright received his bachelor's degree in petroleum engineering from Texas A&M University in 1943. After graduating, he was commissioned in the U.S. Army. He was assigned to the Army Corps of Engineers and deployed to Europe during the Second World War. Bright remained in the Army until 1946, obtaining the rank of captain.[2] Bright returned to Texas in 1946 and began investing in oil and natural gas leases. Later he expanded to trucking, banks, real estate, and savings and loans. His investments made him a millionaire by the age of 31.[3] In 1990, he was listed as one of the 100 richest people in Texas.[4]

In 1984, Bright (along with 11 limited business partners, including Craig Hall[5]) purchased the Dallas Cowboys NFL franchise from Clint Murchison, Jr. for $85 million. The Cowboys made the playoffs in his first season as owner, losing to the Los Angeles Rams in the first round and finishing with a 10–6 record. The team's performance declined over the next three seasons, posting records of 7–9, 7–8, and 3–13.

After suffering financial losses, including an estimated $29 million in the 1988 collapse of First Republic Bank Corporation, Bright sold the franchise to Jerry Jones in 1989 for $140 million.[3] Jones made many changes to the team, including firing longtime head coach Tom Landry, the only head coach of the team up to that time. Later, Bright claimed that he wanted to fire Landry himself as early as 1987, but general manager Tex Schramm claimed he didn't have a successor in place yet.[6] In 2016, Jones revealed that Bright offered to fire Landry before Jones introduced himself as the Cowboys' new owner. According to Jones, Bright knew Jones would almost certainly be pilloried by the media and fan base if he fired Landry, and wanted to relieve Jones of the pressure by making the decision himself. However, Jones declined the offer, wanting to tell Landry himself that he was being let go.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bum_Bright

Jerry has kept in touch continuously with Gil Brandt:

Gil Brandt​

NFL.com Senior Analyst​

Gil Brandt, the vice president of player personnel for the Cowboys from 1960 to 1989, helped Dallas grow into one of the most powerful and popular sports franchises in America. His innovative management and personnel systems are standard operating procedure today for many teams at the professional and collegiate levels nationwide. As NFL Media's personnel guru, Brandt offers insight and commentary on all aspects of players and teams.

https://www.nfl.com/author/gil-brandt-09000d5d80026e07

Face it, Jerry is not naive nor stupid on the subject of the NFL. He is not incompetent or inept either.

He is protective of his business interest and doesn't pass the buck or responsibility but in a defined manner. As owner, that is his call and that has been a successful business format in the NFL.

As the NFL changed, well so did Jerry as well as the sophistications of the franchise. Former stereotypes as well as strength of the franchise have returned to a strong point now. Fans just haven't kept up with those realities even with the burden of frustrations. But that now is the fan's making...not Jerry now.

Myself, I have, as a fan as well, have observed the valid ethics and good functional morales exhibited by Jerry as well as his family to organization. It all hasn't been great as to product, but who's has if one is honest?

As a fan, I won't taint the image that has earned the respect and deserves a positive return for being a strong leader and always trying to look after his team and support in a dignified manner of conduct.

I am a fan, and at least I won't lower my standards to instead insult the true dignity of people with the Cowboys or it's fans...but what I will do is defend my own dignity and the truth in my own words and also not lower my own standards or to patronize a polarized hero worshipping that instead insult and use a 'hillbilly ballad' for agreement.

I will talk and discuss, but won't bend my own knee for convenience or slander instead.
 

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Since before purchasing the Cowboys, Jerry Jones has sought imput from many sources on aspects of the game and it's management. He studied intensively and really isn't naive or ill informed the least bit. Just to be truthful.

Through the years, he has kept receiving imputs of some very good heads in the sport of football.

Jones purchased the Cowboys from H.R. “Bum” Bright for $140 million in February 1989. It was the largest deal ever for an NFL team at the time of purchase. At the time of the sale, Bright claimed the franchise was losing $1 million a month. Soon after the purchase, Jones fired NFL legend Tom Landry, the only coach in the franchise’s history. In his place, Jones hired his old teammate from Arkansas, Jimmy Johnson. After a slow start, going 1-15 in their first season, it took no time for the duo to turn the Cowboys into one of the best teams of the ’90s.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/who-is-the-dallas-cowboys-owner-history-of-jerry-jones/

Bright received his bachelor's degree in petroleum engineering from Texas A&M University in 1943. After graduating, he was commissioned in the U.S. Army. He was assigned to the Army Corps of Engineers and deployed to Europe during the Second World War. Bright remained in the Army until 1946, obtaining the rank of captain.[2] Bright returned to Texas in 1946 and began investing in oil and natural gas leases. Later he expanded to trucking, banks, real estate, and savings and loans. His investments made him a millionaire by the age of 31.[3] In 1990, he was listed as one of the 100 richest people in Texas.[4]

In 1984, Bright (along with 11 limited business partners, including Craig Hall[5]) purchased the Dallas Cowboys NFL franchise from Clint Murchison, Jr. for $85 million. The Cowboys made the playoffs in his first season as owner, losing to the Los Angeles Rams in the first round and finishing with a 10–6 record. The team's performance declined over the next three seasons, posting records of 7–9, 7–8, and 3–13.

After suffering financial losses, including an estimated $29 million in the 1988 collapse of First Republic Bank Corporation, Bright sold the franchise to Jerry Jones in 1989 for $140 million.[3] Jones made many changes to the team, including firing longtime head coach Tom Landry, the only head coach of the team up to that time. Later, Bright claimed that he wanted to fire Landry himself as early as 1987, but general manager Tex Schramm claimed he didn't have a successor in place yet.[6] In 2016, Jones revealed that Bright offered to fire Landry before Jones introduced himself as the Cowboys' new owner. According to Jones, Bright knew Jones would almost certainly be pilloried by the media and fan base if he fired Landry, and wanted to relieve Jones of the pressure by making the decision himself. However, Jones declined the offer, wanting to tell Landry himself that he was being let go.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bum_Bright

Jerry has kept in touch continuously with Gil Brandt:

Gil Brandt​

NFL.com Senior Analyst​

Gil Brandt, the vice president of player personnel for the Cowboys from 1960 to 1989, helped Dallas grow into one of the most powerful and popular sports franchises in America. His innovative management and personnel systems are standard operating procedure today for many teams at the professional and collegiate levels nationwide. As NFL Media's personnel guru, Brandt offers insight and commentary on all aspects of players and teams.

https://www.nfl.com/author/gil-brandt-09000d5d80026e07

Face it, Jerry is not naive nor stupid on the subject of the NFL. He is not incompetent or inept either.

He is protective of his business interest and doesn't pass the buck or responsibility but in a defined manner. As owner, that is his call and that has been a successful business format in the NFL.

As the NFL changed, well so did Jerry as well as the sophistications of the franchise. Former stereotypes as well as strength of the franchise have returned to a strong point now. Fans just haven't kept up with those realities even with the burden of frustrations. But that now is the fan's making...not Jerry now.

Myself, I have, as a fan as well, have observed the valid ethics and good functional morales exhibited by Jerry as well as his family to organization. It all hasn't been great as to product, but who's has if one is honest?

As a fan, I won't taint the image that has earned the respect and deserves a positive return for being a strong leader and always trying to look after his team and support in a dignified manner of conduct.

I am a fan, and at least I won't lower my standards to instead insult the true dignity of people with the Cowboys or it's fans...but what I will do is defend my own dignity and the truth in my own words and also not lower my own standards or to patronize a polarized hero worshipping that instead insult and use a 'hillbilly ballad' for agreement.

I will talk and discuss, but won't bend my own knee for convenience or slander instead.
What the hell is this? Your manifesto?

I know more about Booger than you ever will, going way back before he bought this team. I was born and raised in Little Rock and my father-in-law was his banker.

I've said before, I don't care about his general mangling of the team, I do not like him as a person, I know exactly what he used to be and still shows signs of that. A real lowlife hides behind that smile.
 

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See the NFCCG wouldn’t be too much of a metric if it was t for the fact that the Cowboys haven’t played in one of those in 27 years
It's based on emotion. You feel you deserve that and until you get it you will be discontent. People that have been conditioned as such are legion.
 

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What the hell is this? Your manifesto?

I know more about Booger than you ever will, going way back before he bought this team. I was born and raised in Little Rock and my father-in-law was his banker.

I've said before, I don't care about his general mangling of the team, I do not like him as a person, I know exactly what he used to be and still shows signs of that. A real lowlife hides behind that smile.
I always attempt to discuss first...don't imply that you know much more without proving your stance, which you did take. A discussion was not offered as to specifics beyond an attitude and an insult by your post.

In life, even some dangerous criminals turn things around. But apparently by your stance, you are judge and jury for all.

Ignoring all that was presented by myself, doesn't mean your views are not biased as well. I don't respond to an 'authorized' brow beat. I was discussing!!

I'm not impressed...ban me!
 
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I always attempt to discuss first...don't imply that you know much more without proving your stance, which you did take. A discussion was not offered as to specifics beyond an attitude and an insult by your post.

In life, even some dangerous criminals turn things around. But apparently by your stance, you are judge and jury for all.
Not all but I do have an opinion about him and I am not judge or jury, one man with an opinion.
 

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Not all but I do have an opinion about him and I am not judge or jury, one man with an opinion.
You talked and discussed, now.

On the front of the Washington, DC building for Congress is the inscription: Equality for Every One!
 

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This is too try hard.

You are no good at deductions.
Do you speak English?

In other news....I just embarked on a adventurous world tour. I made it to the end of my driveway and then quit. It wasn't a super long World tour....but a World tour nevertheless.
 

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What has Will McClay produced? This team still has a divisional round wall, going back to the 20th century.
McClay cannot keep Jerry from ridiculously overpaying average players and handcuffing the franchise.
 

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LMAO, who in the hell do you think even believes that in this country?
Ever been to Law School? Ever been in law enforcement? Ever been a Corrections Officer? Notice I didn't mention the prison in Tyler!

Ever been a law clerk and court reporter?

I was raised to respect law and order and to believe in the actual truth...you don't for real?
 
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