The Suns Playoff Thread: The Road To The Finals

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smarta5150;1501218 said:
Come on... Thomas had to play close to 40 minutes.

Nash played 40+ along with Marion and Barbosa.

All of them played well above their average minutes and obviously ran out of gas by the 4th quarter.

They came out winded in the 3rd quarter.

Marion played out of him mind the 1st half but then again he has been Mr Double Double so I'm not sure "out of his mind" is the correct term.

To say the absence of Amare and Diaw had no affect on the game is ludicrous.

You are either a homer, ignorant or having some fun with a Suns fan.

I will say the 1st one... I imagine you will tell me the 3rd, in which case, i don't believe you.

it did have an effect on the game, for one the suns came out playing hard and i think they wouldnt have come out that way if nothing would have happened. It also had a positive effect on sean marion, he was a mismatch and dominated the first half. Also sean marion and amare have a feud of some sort, i dont know much about it but i bet if affected his effort. I guarantee you that sean doesnt play that well with amare in the lineup, not to spite him but because of the matchup.

Doomsday;1501300 said:
What 2 sides did you want with your big bowl of denial? It was pretty evident that Phoenix tired in the 4th quarter. Amare is able create his own shot and get some good looks down low, that would of taken a ton of pressure off Nash.

i agree that by the fourth quarter the suns had ran out of gas because of their depth. However that is also bad coaching, you gotta give your guys rest somehow. Duncan came out of the game in the middle of the fourth and D'antoni could have taken out thomas or marion and put in jalen rose or that huge white guy. It was his fault for not trusting his team. you saw matt bonner playing yesterday, thats cuz pop trusted him to come in for horry and also believed it was important for them to get rest
 

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zrinkill;1501338 said:
Marion played better last night than Amare and Diaw have combined the entire series .....

If the Suns cannot win with that type of effort from Marion ..... they cannot win this series.

With Amare in the game ..... Marion is not allowed to have that type of game.

Marion had a great 1st half but a lot of people are forgetting his 2nd half...
 

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You can't call this series over just yet. Amare back in the lineup will definitely help the Suns, and even though game six is in San Antonio homecourt hasn't mattered much in this series. The visiting team has taken three out of the five games.
 

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The Real Mavs Man;1501721 said:
You can't call this series over just yet. Amare back in the lineup will definitely help the Suns, and even though game six is in San Antonio homecourt hasn't mattered much in this series. The visiting team has taken three out of the five games.


oh, this is far from over.

i just wonder if phoenix has enough in the tank to win two straight against SA.
 

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phillycowboyslover;1502096 said:
oh, this is far from over.

i just wonder if phoenix has enough in the tank to win two straight against SA.

I originally said this would end in six, and I'm sticking by that. But we'll see what happens.
 

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dangerdoom4124;1503276 said:
...And so it ends.

:(

:clap2:

Sorry man, you've got a great team.

The Spurs may not win the title this year, but I can assure you they won't play a better team than the Suns.
 

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dangerdoom4124;1503276 said:
...And so it ends.

:(

Look at the bright side - it could be worse.

The Suns need something extra to get past the Spurs. I'd really like to see them attempt to copy the following scenario from Bill Simmons:



Right now, Stoudemire is a base-year compensation player because he's finishing the first year of his contract extension (five years, $73 million). The deal I'm proposing can't work under the cap until mid-July, when Stoudemire's cap figure morphs into the value of his current contract ($13.2 million for next season) and makes him infinitely more easy to trade (for details, check out Larry Coon's NBA salary cap FAQ). But they could still agree on a pre-draft trade that wouldn't become official until a few weeks later.

Assuming Atlanta's pick doesn't land in the top three, here's my proposal: Stoudemire, Atlanta's pick (depending on how the lottery shakes out, it would be as high as No. 4 or as low as No. 6) and Marcus Banks (for cap purposes) to Minnesota for Garnett and Minnesota's pick (as high as No. 7, as low as No. 9).

Here's why both teams should do it:

Minnesota: That's practically 100 cents on the dollar for KG. They're getting a first-team All-NBA big man who's younger than KG, plus they're jumping into the top five of the draft with a chance to add another blue-chip forward (either Brandan Wright or Al Horford). Examine the T-Wolves roster and you'll notice that they don't need a four-for-one deal for KG; they're looking at an immediate future in which the Clippers and Celtics own two of their future first-rounders within the next five years, so it wouldn't make sense for them to bottom out with picks and young players. Stoudemire is the best and most sensible option for them. Period.

Phoenix: KG solves four problems for the Suns. First, they don't have to worry about the debilitating Marion/Stoudemire alpha-dog battle anymore. Second, they don't have to worry about Stoudemire's surgically reconstructed knee anymore. Third, between KG, Nash and Bell, the Suns would have more than enough toughness/intensity/competitiveness to compete every spring (a real issue for them, even this season -- they're just not nasty enough). And fourth, they'd finally have someone who could potentially play Duncan to a draw (or as close as possible). Stoudemire just isn't a good defensive player -- he's prone to foul trouble and gets discouraged easily (as we witnessed while he pouted on the bench in Game 3). As for the age difference between KG and Stoudemire ... do you realize that Amare is only six years younger than KG? Crazy but true. And slipping two to four spots in the draft wouldn't hurt the Suns because they could still take Joakim Noah, an athletic big man who's perfect for them (and could play right away).

Now ...

Let's say the Suns make this deal, package their other two No. 1 picks (No. 24 and No. 29) to move into the mid-teens for Acie Law IV (the most NBA-ready point guard in the draft), then spend their free agent exemption on an athletic swingman like Matt Barnes. Maybe they'd be paying the luxury tax, but screw it -- how many times can you put together a potential 70-win team that's a prohibitive title favorite and the top TV draw in the league?

Check out this nine-man nucleus: KG, Marion, Bell, Barbosa and Nash as the starters, with Noah, Diaw, Law and Barnes coming off the bench. They'd be covered for every conceivable situation (smallball, grind-it-out ball, run-and-gun, you name it) and they'd be led by two desperate superstars (KG and Nash) who'd basically be ready to give 10 years of their lives to win one title.

Would you bet against that team in the 2008 playoffs? Me neither.
 

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I'd feel bad for Amare, though, having to move to Minnesota! :lmao2:

I think one of the big problems for the Suns is that D'Antoni really seems like he coaches stubbornly. I know he has set times to rest Nash, but having Nash and Stoudamire out at the end of the 3rd and beginning of 4th.
 

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dangerdoom4124;1503276 said:
...And so it ends.

:(

i remember the days, as a spurs fan, that you feel now.

makes me appreiciate all our trophys very very much.



...and hopefully one more.....
 
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