The truth about Terrance Williams

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I cant believe you guys are bagging on T Will, I wouldve given him the game ball yesterday, he came up with 2 clutch TD's!!! The 1st TD suprised me cause i didnt think he had that kindve manuervability and speed, and the second one was all him getting open and hauling in the game winner.

Last but not least....TWill is a compliment to Dez, just like Harper was to Irvin, TWill has suspect hands at times, but he has made some phenominal catches this year, i'm hopeful he continuies to improve.....he's only in his 2nd season.
 

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I think you summed up a lot of his shortcomings here. And I think they're legitimate criticisms.

But, in criticizing him, I'm not saying he's awful or that he should be replaced. I would just like to see this 2nd year receiver continue to work hard on perfecting his craft and eliminate what some of us see as glaring deficiencies.

It would greatly benefit both Williams and the team.

I agree bro...

If he can improve, I'll keep him. He's still athletic. If not? I rather move forward, Or make him a number 3.
 

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Williams started the season on fire and got that hand injury. If you dont know WRs need their hands. Hes seems healthy now and has 4 TDs in the last 3 games with a 26.4 yrds per catch avg. He's fine. When you have a RB who is getting almost half the offensive touches for the yr and superstar WR and a HOF TE how many touches is the #2 WR supposed to get? A #2 WR getting 10 TDS in a yr is very good. as a matter of fact in terms of #2 WRs only Randall Cobb has more Tds then him.
How this is not obvious to everyone is pure crazy to me. The next thing will be a "The Truth About Dez Bryant" thread or whomever didn't get the majority of the balls after we beat Greenbay.
 

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Anyone else reminded of the slant Harper took to the house against the Niners in the 92 playoff game?

Even though I never started fully following football until after 95, that is the one play I distinctly remember seeing in 92 (maybe not live, but at least on replay on all the sports shows).
 

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Let me preface this by saying I appreciate the contributions of Terrance Williams. I am not "complaining"...I am making an observation and I said this BEFORE the season. I really wondered aloud if Terrance was ready to be a #2 on a team with a REAL chance to compete for a Super Bowl.

Terrance Williams is a guy who can do things in space. Terrance Williams is a guy who can make plays when he is OPEN! He is pretty good in "sand lot" and/or "broken" plays....much like the kid we had a couple of years ago who left via free agency to Jacksonville.

The problem with this is as follows: being NFL "open" and being "open" are 2 different things. And Romo is a legitimate NFL QB that can "throw" guys open. He can "lead" WRs. He can throw the ball where the WR is "supposed" to be...or throw it BEFORE a WR comes out his break. People really do not understand how much "harder" Romo's life is when you don't have disciplined and/or good route runners! This is not an offense that functions well with a freestyle passing game!

Romo is not like a lot of these young QBs that are coming out of the college spread offenses where they can only throw the ball when they see the WRs "numbers" Which is why a lot of these young QBs are struggling at this level.

Terrance is such a WR. Coming out of Baylor where RG3 was his QB....where there are multiple rumors that there were wasn't much of a playbook...and they played the fastbreak spread style offense.

With as much attention Dez gets....the guy on the other side of him should be feasting. And it really makes the life of Romo, the OL, the RB and the entire offense way too hard when Romo cannot on a consistent basis simply throw the ball to the ONE on ONE option. That throw in the first quarter...that either has to be caught by Terrance..or the defender would need to have to interfere with him to break it up. In the fourth quarter where we were down by the goaline...and Dez was probably being doubled/tripled.....the ball went right through Terrance hands. Why? Because Terrance is not really a guy who catches in traffic or does well in bang bang plays.

So since he is who we got....do we move forward believing that he can be a legitimate #2 on a Super Bowl team. Or do we realize that Romo has a few years left in him and we really need to see if you can get a veteran WR (Larry Fitzgerald type) to put the finishing touches on this offense.

Keep in mind...I know all of the stats and what this offense has done this year....yada....yada. I am talking about competing at the HIGHEST level....I am talking about more consistency and less "cardiac kids" football.

I think Williams has the highest percentage of TDs to targets in the league (according to a local media person).

If he was really running bad routes, Romo would be on his case.

You appear to want two #1 WRs and very few teams have two of them. Some teams don't really have one.
 

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I have said it before (throughout the season in threads calling out TW and calling for a better #2 WR) and I will say it again. Williams is a quality #2 and does exactly what is required of him when the time comes for him to step up.

Anyone else reminded of the slant Harper took to the house against the Niners in the 92 playoff game?

Yes. Surprised Troy didn't mention it......
 

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I think Williams has the highest percentage of TDs to targets in the league (according to a local media person).

If he was really running bad routes, Romo would be on his case.

You appear to want two #1 WRs and very few teams have two of them. Some teams don't really have one.

Williams is like Alvin Harper as a number two. Irvin was the go to guy, but Alvin was the deep ball catcher/threat. The nice part is that Williams/Romo seem to have a chemistry that they know to keep the plays alive and good things can happen.

He has his " drop moments" but all in all I'm grateful we have him as an option, as other than Beasley our #3 depth doesn't appear to be able to make a meaningful contribution.
 

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I'm not nit-picking at all. I really like the player. He was known as a body-catcher coming out of college. It's not like i randomly made this up. And I agree with you, he CAN make hands catches away from his body.He has shown that at times, sometimes in spectacular fashion. To me it appears to be something that's not natural for whatever reason and it's a struggle for him at times. I think it's something he can work on to improve. TO worked tirelessly on this even though he clearly seemed to fight at times to make "hands" catches.

That sideline catch against Seattle was a prime example of " hand catching". I for one am glad we have him, and he can only get better with more experience , and focus on improving his game.
 

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How this is not obvious to everyone is pure crazy to me. The next thing will be a "The Truth About Dez Bryant" thread or whomever didn't get the majority of the balls after we beat Greenbay.

As ive said over and over. Dallas win or lose people are just going to find stuff to complain about
 

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I have said it before (throughout the season in threads calling out TW and calling for a better #2 WR) and I will say it again. Williams is a quality #2 and does exactly what is required of him when the time comes for him to step up.

Anyone else reminded of the slant Harper took to the house against the Niners in the 92 playoff game?

Harper didn't quite make it to the house on that play. :D
 

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Williams started the season on fire and got that hand injury. If you dont know WRs need their hands. Hes seems healthy now and has 4 TDs in the last 3 games with a 26.4 yrds per catch avg. He's fine. When you have a RB who is getting almost half the offensive touches for the yr and superstar WR and a HOF TE how many touches is the #2 WR supposed to get? A #2 WR getting 10 TDS in a yr is very good. as a matter of fact in terms of #2 WRs only Randall Cobb has more Tds then him.

Well said indeed sir.
 

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TWill runs good routes but his hands are inconsistent, you can only throw to him with confidence when he is really open, I think both of his TDs were body catches. So his catch radius is like 3 feet where as dez his radius is more like 6 feet.
 

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I know my observation is not popular....but I am trying to find a way for the Cowboys to ride Tony for 3 or 4 more years. At this advanced age we get the best Romo we have ever seen. And that is because of adding the running game. Now if we can add someone that can make Romo's deceision making in the passing game easier....he could play another 4 years at a high level. I mean...whose to say Romo cannot play until his is 40 like Manning, Brady, Favre etc...I mean remember...part of the reason Manning and Brady have played at a high level well into their late 30s and early 40s is because they don't get hit much. Well with this running game and a more "consistent" #2 WR...imagine how little Romo would get hit!

if you really want to help rono, improve the defense so we get romo the ball more. twill is a fine #2 and we don't need any more recievers. we need to build the defense so the other team is not driving 99 yards down the field and forcing the offense to have to match. this offense is very good. you put a good better defense with them and you have a really dominate team
 

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TWill runs good routes but his hands are inconsistent, you can only throw to him with confidence when he is really open, I think both of his TDs were body catches. So his catch radius is like 3 feet where as dez his radius is more like 6 feet.

well it must work for him. he is credited with 1 drop this year
 

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well it must work for him. he is credited with 1 drop this year

Yes it works but there is reason why he disappears against good covering teams, the window room has to fight it into for him is so much tighter than it is for Dez.
 

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Who was the Larry Fitzgerald type of #2 WR for Troy Aikman again?

I forget what WR Aikman had on the other side of Irvin that was a pro bowler and potential Hall of Fame WR playing #2 for those Superbowls.
 

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Williams started the season on fire and got that hand injury. If you dont know WRs need their hands. Hes seems healthy now and has 4 TDs in the last 3 games with a 26.4 yrds per catch avg. He's fine. When you have a RB who is getting almost half the offensive touches for the yr and superstar WR and a HOF TE how many touches is the #2 WR supposed to get? A #2 WR getting 10 TDS in a yr is very good. as a matter of fact in terms of #2 WRs only Randall Cobb has more Tds then him.

Throw in a Slot WR that is getting open as well, TWill is ok. All he has to do is keep improving.
 

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Let me preface this by saying I appreciate the contributions of Terrance Williams. I am not "complaining"...I am making an observation and I said this BEFORE the season. I really wondered aloud if Terrance was ready to be a #2 on a team with a REAL chance to compete for a Super Bowl.

Terrance Williams is a guy who can do things in space. Terrance Williams is a guy who can make plays when he is OPEN! He is pretty good in "sand lot" and/or "broken" plays....much like the kid we had a couple of years ago who left via free agency to Jacksonville.

The problem with this is as follows: being NFL "open" and being "open" are 2 different things. And Romo is a legitimate NFL QB that can "throw" guys open. He can "lead" WRs. He can throw the ball where the WR is "supposed" to be...or throw it BEFORE a WR comes out his break. People really do not understand how much "harder" Romo's life is when you don't have disciplined and/or good route runners! This is not an offense that functions well with a freestyle passing game!

Romo is not like a lot of these young QBs that are coming out of the college spread offenses where they can only throw the ball when they see the WRs "numbers" Which is why a lot of these young QBs are struggling at this level.

Terrance is such a WR. Coming out of Baylor where RG3 was his QB....where there are multiple rumors that there were wasn't much of a playbook...and they played the fastbreak spread style offense.

With as much attention Dez gets....the guy on the other side of him should be feasting. And it really makes the life of Romo, the OL, the RB and the entire offense way too hard when Romo cannot on a consistent basis simply throw the ball to the ONE on ONE option. That throw in the first quarter...that either has to be caught by Terrance..or the defender would need to have to interfere with him to break it up. In the fourth quarter where we were down by the goaline...and Dez was probably being doubled/tripled.....the ball went right through Terrance hands. Why? Because Terrance is not really a guy who catches in traffic or does well in bang bang plays.

So since he is who we got....do we move forward believing that he can be a legitimate #2 on a Super Bowl team. Or do we realize that Romo has a few years left in him and we really need to see if you can get a veteran WR (Larry Fitzgerald type) to put the finishing touches on this offense.

Keep in mind...I know all of the stats and what this offense has done this year....yada....yada. I am talking about competing at the HIGHEST level....I am talking about more consistency and less "cardiac kids" football.

Helluva post my friend... Hes a very good big play number 3 IMO... Not a good 2 for all the reasons you listed above.
 
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