The truth might hurt some but it's the truth

[WillieBeamen]

First 7 games

(2014) Tony Romo: 148 of 214 for 1789 yds, 14 TD, 6 INT

(2016) Dak Prescott: 144 of 221 for 1,773 yds, 13 TD (4 rush), 2 INT


Here are facts

Yes lets ignore context and the fact that Romo had 1 awful game vs the 49ers in the opener because of offseason back surgery...

 

[OKOK6]

1st Post. I will go ahead and admit that I grew up a Cowboys fan. I have been to several games over the last 5 years BUT my passion for college football took over in my adult years and especially Mississippi State - So, yeah I'm a Dak homer...and his being in Dallas has rekindled my childhood addiction to the Cowboys.

Now with that being said...

1) Dak played poorly for 3 quarters. He made a few athletic plays that kept us in the game BUT he missed some more that would have possibly kept the team from playing from behind.
2) Romo may have not have missed those plays and this game may have never been in question.
3) Philly's defense played intense all around defense...as stated Zeke wasn't running wild. Interesting, I don't hear anyone complaining about Zeke's play even though it was less productive than the last few games...or OL play. I mean if Zeke wasn't running wild AND Philly was putting enough pressure on Dak to cause mistakes - something was a miss up front.
4) Dak played a good 4th quarter and OT. It took him 3 quarters to adjust to Philly throwing every weird blitz in the world at him. It took a Rookie 3 QUARTERS to adjust - there are NFL QB's that would have been buried in confusion in that game and would be every time they played it no matter how many times they played it. Not saying Romo wouldn't have figured it out from the 1st series but don't downplay how fast Dak adjusted to something brand new.
5) Dak is the kind that he will tell you himself he could have and should have played better.
6) Romo is a great QB and to downplay what he has done in the past is INSANE but to downplay what Dak has done as a Rookie and helping his team to a 2 game lead is just as INSANE. Romo fans its not that we are winning and that's why you stay with Dak its because we are leading.

OK, I'm a stats guy but I like to compare apples to apples and EVERYTHING I have seen on here is a comparison of what Dak is doing against Romo when he played hurt or hindered or Romo at his prime against a Rookie QB. What about Rookie to Rookie?

2006 Romo Started 12 games (he wasn't a Rookie btw) - 19 TD's, 13 INT's, 2903 yard, 0 Rushing TD's, 8.6 Yards Per Pass, 65% Completion Percentage...Against Philly - 1 TD and 2 INT's and 48% Completion Percentage.
2016 Dak Stats through 7 Games - 9 TD's, 2 INT's, 1,773 Yards, 4 Rushing TD's, 8.02 Yards Per Pass, 65% Completion Percentage...Against Philly 2 TD's and 1 INT and 1 Rushing and 48% Completion Percentage. (So in all Dak has accounted for 13 TD's and 2 INT's)

In the end...It just seems weird to hear a bunch of "What Ifs" when the Cowboys are leading the division.

 

[Sasquatch]

Speculation is not truth. One could just as reasonably speculate that Romo gets knocked out of the game by the Philly blitz at a critical juncture totally disrupting the offense and demoralizingbthe team. It wouldn't pass as truth, though.

 

[Doomsday101]

The funny part of all of this talk, is the Cowboys are 6-1 with a great chance of being 7-1 after this week. Without a dominating defense heck this defense is not like what the Seahawks have or Denver has and believe me those defenses are a big help to those offenses and to those QB's. Cowboys entered the season with many here claiming we had no chance this team was nothing more than a 4 to 8 game win team. Yet this rookie QB has come out and thrown 9 TD to 2 ints and ran for 4 more TD, he has been in situations like San Fran game being down 14 points and over came it and 10 points down heading into the 4th qrt vs a very good Philly defense and yet some are being forced to defend how Prescott is doing????? wow

A rookie is leading this team folks yes he has had bad moments and struggled for much of the Philly game but he has been able to overcome and help this team win. People need to remove the agenda caps for a second and appreciate what Dak has been able to do instead of nit picking every single thing. What Dak is doing is not easy not even for a vast majority of vet QB in this league. Cowboys are on a 6 game win streak, you may want to wake up to that fact.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Yes lets ignore context and the fact that Romo had 1 awful game vs the 49ers in the opener because of offseason back surgery...

Both him and the Animosity troll are greasing the stats to make rushing TDs = passing TDs as well, but hey... the bad thing about comparing stats is that Romo's numbers kept going up, up, up into an incredible December. Dak's are trending down already, and he's just a game manager to begin with. These trolls won't be doing the stat comparison very much longer, rest assured.

 

[Doomsday101]

Both him and the Animosity troll are greasing the stats to make rushing TDs = passing TDs as well, but hey... the bad thing about comparing stats is that Romo's numbers kept going up, up, up into an incredible December. Dak's are trending down already, and he's just a game manager to begin with. These trolls won't be doing the stat comparison very much longer, rest assured.

Dak is a rookie Romo is not. I agree it is hard to compare a 14 year vet to a QB who has played a total of 7 games. Right now the biggest stat that matters is winning football games. Dallas in 2014 had a 6 game win streak and currently this team is on a 6 game winning streak. Dak has a way to go before he has the vet savvy of a Tony Romo but even Tony Romo has bad games and at times has been able to over come them as has Dak. I really do not get this argument, their jobs be it Romo or Dak is to help this team win games and Dak is doing just that. Weeden, Cassell and Moore sure as hell did not help us one bit yet this rookie is riding a 6 game win streak and people are putting him down and acting like he is not helping this team.

I have said many time I love having Romo and should he return I will back him 110% but reality is Romo is not playing and it may be a while before he can. Doctors evidently are telling him he is not ready to take a hit so all this Romo talk is useless since he is unable to play.

 

[Kevinicus]

Now let me say that I love Dak and everything he brings to this team and our offense. I liked him very early on in preseason, more than most. I am extremely excited about the present and the future of our Cowboys. Having said that this offense would be that much better with a healthy Romo.
If Romo had played on Sunday night the game never would have went into overtime. Actually it would have been over by the 4th quarter. There were guys running wide open all night and I am not even talking about the throws that Dak missed on, I'm talking about the ones he didn't even make.
I think we would have won easily against the Eagles. Probably by two TDs. I know everyone is in the "now" but don't forget how special a QB Romo is. I would rank him only behind Brady and Rothlisberger. I understand the injury concerns but when Tony is fully healthy he should have his job back and if he losses it to injury or bad play so be it but he should get it back.
Of course all the media and fans are going to say "Jerry is going to blow this whole thing like he always has by putting Romo back in", but I think it is the complete opposite. I think that Jerry is going to blow this whole thing by leaving Dak in there. Again this is not a knock on Dak, it's just that Romo gives us the best chance to win a Super Bowl this season.

I disagree with you a lot, but this is 100% spot on.

 

[Kevinicus]

1st Post. I will go ahead and admit that I grew up a Cowboys fan. I have been to several games over the last 5 years BUT my passion for college football took over in my adult years and especially Mississippi State - So, yeah I'm a Dak homer...and his being in Dallas has rekindled my childhood addiction to the Cowboys.

Now with that being said...

1) Dak played poorly for 3 quarters. He made a few athletic plays that kept us in the game BUT he missed some more that would have possibly kept the team from playing from behind.
2) Romo may have not have missed those plays and this game may have never been in question.
3) Philly's defense played intense all around defense...as stated Zeke wasn't running wild. Interesting, I don't hear anyone complaining about Zeke's play even though it was less productive than the last few games...or OL play. I mean if Zeke wasn't running wild AND Philly was putting enough pressure on Dak to cause mistakes - something was a miss up front.
4) Dak played a good 4th quarter and OT. It took him 3 quarters to adjust to Philly throwing every weird blitz in the world at him. It took a Rookie 3 QUARTERS to adjust - there are NFL QB's that would have been buried in confusion in that game and would be every time they played it no matter how many times they played it. Not saying Romo wouldn't have figured it out from the 1st series but don't downplay how fast Dak adjusted to something brand new.
5) Dak is the kind that he will tell you himself he could have and should have played better.
6) Romo is a great QB and to downplay what he has done in the past is INSANE but to downplay what Dak has done as a Rookie and helping his team to a 2 game lead is just as INSANE. Romo fans its not that we are winning and that's why you stay with Dak its because we are leading.

OK, I'm a stats guy but I like to compare apples to apples and EVERYTHING I have seen on here is a comparison of what Dak is doing against Romo when he played hurt or hindered or Romo at his prime against a Rookie QB. What about Rookie to Rookie?

2006 Romo Started 12 games (he wasn't a Rookie btw) - 19 TD's, 13 INT's, 2903 yard, 0 Rushing TD's, 8.6 Yards Per Pass, 65% Completion Percentage...Against Philly - 1 TD and 2 INT's and 48% Completion Percentage.
2016 Dak Stats through 7 Games - 9 TD's, 2 INT's, 1,773 Yards, 4 Rushing TD's, 8.02 Yards Per Pass, 65% Completion Percentage...Against Philly 2 TD's and 1 INT and 1 Rushing and 48% Completion Percentage. (So in all Dak has accounted for 13 TD's and 2 INT's)

In the end...It just seems weird to hear a bunch of "What Ifs" when the Cowboys are leading the division.

Dak played poorly for 4 quarters. His 4th quarter was not good. I don't know people keep saying it was. It simply isn't the case. OT, yes, he was good. He was comfortable (amazingly, when not under the threat of pressure, his "poise" returns) and made the necessary throws.

 

[OKOK6]

Both him and the Animosity troll are greasing the stats to make rushing TDs = passing TDs as well, but hey... the bad thing about comparing stats is that Romo's numbers kept going up, up, up into an incredible December. Dak's are trending down already, and he's just a game manager to begin with. These trolls won't be doing the stat comparison very much longer, rest assured.

6-10, 8-8, 8-8, 12-4, 4-12 since 2010. That's overall record of 38 - 42. Is it not ironic people are complaining about 3 bad quarters...ok, 4 bad quarters by a Rookie in a WIN and a 6-1 start. Ride the wave and enjoy it. If it starts to crash Romo will be healthier and ready to play.

 

[OKOK6]

Dak played poorly for 4 quarters. His 4th quarter was not good. I don't know people keep saying it was. It simply isn't the case. OT, yes, he was good. He was comfortable (amazingly, when not under the threat of pressure, his "poise" returns) and made the necessary throws.

I can actually agree. Dak wasn't Dak til the end of the 4th and OT.

 

[Animosity]

Both him and the Animosity troll are greasing the stats to make rushing TDs = passing TDs as well, but hey... the bad thing about comparing stats is that Romo's numbers kept going up, up, up into an incredible December. Dak's are trending down already, and he's just a game manager to begin with. These trolls won't be doing the stat comparison very much longer, rest assured.

Whats the difference between a rushing td and a passing td? does a rushing td count for 5 or 6?

 

[Cowboysfan917]

Dak played poorly for 4 quarters. His 4th quarter was not good. I don't know people keep saying it was. It simply isn't the case. OT, yes, he was good. He was comfortable (amazingly, when not under the threat of pressure, his "poise" returns) and made the necessary throws.

He had a chance to close the game out and instead went 3 and out in 29 seconds

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Whats the difference between a rushing td and a passing td? does a rushing td count for 5 or 6?

I have no idea what scoring is used in your church fantasy football league.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Zeroing in on the roll out is a good thing for our run game.

You have to respect Daks ability to run.

Dak does miss things down field but what we saw Dak struggle with we saw Romo struggle with almost his entire career and that is all out blitz with press coverage.


I want Romo back but Dak does some things that Romo just can't do that I think make us a more dangerous team.

Thank you for presenting this. Why in Gods name are we comparing Romo of 2014 to Dak's FIRST SEVEN STARTS? It's imperative to keep this basis of comparison in mind. Romo lost to philly @ AT&T in 2014 in fact which was his best year? Philly's always a tough out for us and Romo's had some horrific games vs philly. Dak started camp as a third stringer and has done an admirable job filling in for Tony. Why overcomplicate the matter. The fact that he's made some romo die hards nervous and created a debate is a testament to his stellar play. It's not his fault. Why not cut the kid some slack and be happy we drafted him.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Yes lets ignore context and the fact that Romo had 1 awful game vs the 49ers in the opener because of offseason back surgery...

One could argue that he'll STILL struggle a game or two NOW because of yet another recent injury. This is who romo is now. Short weeks and rest effect his play. This also cannot be ingnored.

 

[csirl]

Saying Romo would have played better than Dak is about as relevant as saying Staubach or Aikman would have.

 

[zrinkill]

Romo killed it in 14 with the same gameplan.

Lordy I am sick of hearing about 2014

I love Romo ..... but 2104 was 2 years, 2 broken collarbones, and1 broke back ago.

 

[Zekeats]

Lordy I am sick of hearing about 2014

I love Romo ..... but 2104 was 2 years, 2 broken collarbones, and1 broke back ago.

And one season after a broken back

 

[Zekeats]

I disagree with you a lot, but this is 100% spot on.

Zeroing in on the roll out is a good thing for our run game.

You have to respect Daks ability to run.

Dak does miss things down field but what we saw Dak struggle with we saw Romo struggle with almost his entire career and that is all out blitz with press coverage.


I want Romo back but Dak does some things that Romo just can't do that I think make us a more dangerous team.

Very true. Coaches need to tell them to be allowed to audible a screen on all out blitzes. Our team has 3 amazing weapons to utilize the screen pass and we still don't use it a lot. I will give Dak that too. He is a turn 2 QB and Romo was always horrible at a quick screen to the wide receiver. Coaches should do a better job of taking advantage of the screens.

 

[Zekeats]

[QUOTE="ChldsPlay, post: 6944775, member: 856"]I disagree with you a lot, but this is 100% spot on.[/QUOTE]

You shouldn't.....I was mocked for a lot of things but usually spot on abo

When everyone was down and out after the first game of 2014:

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/i-think-this-team-could-finish-10-6.299496/

Before anyone praised any of these draft picks and got on the Dak train this season:

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/i-am-on-the-dak-train-and-i-love-our-draft-even-more-now.353540/