The truth might hurt some but it's the truth

[Doomsday101]

Romonians seem to be in a bad mood these days with their panties wadding up into their butt cheeks...when they should be happy like us riding the wave brought to us by the new guys.

I'm happy and think the future looks very bright. Guess what I also like Romo and if he gets a chance to take over at QB I hope he plays great and the Cowboys win it all but if that does not happen I would love to see Dak take the Cowboys to the SB and win it all. To me there is a big difference between being a fan of the player and a fan of the team. My desire is to see this franchise back at the top. People love to talk about a player being their pet cat, I got 53 pet cats.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

"Greasing the stats"? If anybody is trying to do that, it's guys like you. Touchdowns are worth 6 points, whether you pass them in or run them in.

Spin that!

Just because you are mentally challenged doesn't mean everyone else is. Depending on the year rushing TDS may actually have more value than passing TDs, but they are not the same, especially when evaluating QBs, which is the point I was trying to make (see DVOA, QBR).

You will now knuckle drag your way back in to the argument and again state "hurrr, durr all TDs are 6 points, what are you talking about" and post a laughing smiley, while pretending to not understand.

 

[Stash]

Just because you are mentally challenged doesn't mean everyone else is. Depending on the year rushing TDS may actually have more value than passing TDs, but they are not the same, especially when evaluating QBs, which is the point I was trying to make (see DVOA, QBR).

You will now knuckle drag your way back in to the argument and again state "hurrr, durr all TDs are 6 points, what are you talking about" and post a laughing smiley, while pretending to not understand.

If you're looking for "mentally challenged", go find any reflective surface.

Nobody gives two ***** about DVOA or QBR. We care about points and wins!

And since you obviously can't grasp the fact, rushing touchdowns are worth the exact same points as passing touchdowns.

How about you talk about Romo's 6 INT's compared to Prescott's 2?

It's amazing that this team can be 6-1 led by Prescott and malcontents can still find something to *****, moan, and whine about.

People need to check themselves.

 

[WillieBeamen]

"Context"? More like nonsense!

You want people to excuse an awful game because of off-season back surgery? Please. The guy was a 10-year league veteran who had the offseason to prepare.

Dak Prescott is a rookie. That trumps any and all excuses you can ate,out to make up.

Yes context.

Choose to ignore the reality all you want, but Romo clearly needed more reps and practice time in the offseason. He missed all of OTA's, came back for training camp, and barely played in the preseason.

Also, that was one game. Let's ignore that Romo got better as the season went by.

Let's ignore he set a NFL record for Qb rating in December and was offensive player of the month. Yes December. You know, one of the most crucial months in a season.

Let's ignore he was the only QB ever to lead in regular season and playoffs QB rating.


Once again, I LOVE Dak and what he has brought to this team. But as a fan, im not entitled to have an opinion on who the better QB is?

 

[Stash]

Yes context.

Choose to ignore the reality all you want, but Romo clearly needed more reps and practice time in the offseason. He missed all of OTA's, came back for training camp, and barely played in the preseason.

If he 'wasn't ready', he shouldn't have played. There is no excuse for it.

Also, that was one game. Let's ignore that Romo got better as the season went by.

Nobody is "ignoring" anything. They're pointing out the fact that Dak's numbers over 7 games this year are almost identical to Romo's of 2014 that some want to point to, while trying to make 2015 disappear. Sorry if the truth hurts.

Let's ignore he set a NFL record for Qb rating in December and was offensive player of the month. Yes December. You know, one of the most crucial months in a season.

Let's ignore he was the only QB ever to lead in regular season and playoffs QB rating.


Once again, I LOVE Dak and what he has brought to this team. But as a fan, im not entitled to have an opinion on who the better QB is?

You most certainly are. But what you're not allowed to do is to try to ignore facts, numbers, and statistics to do it.

Nobody is "ignoring" what Romo did in 2014. But they're also not "ignoring" Dak's numbers along the way either.

 

[WillieBeamen]

If he 'wasn't ready', he shouldn't have played. There is no excuse for it.

The fact that he played and wasnt prepared is more of an indictment on the inept coaching staff and not Romo. Getting the players ready for games is BOTH the players and the coaching staff's responsibility.

Nobody is "ignoring" anything. They're pointing out the fact that Dak's numbers over 7 games this year are almost identical to Romo's of 2014 that some want to point to, while trying to make 2015 disappear. Sorry if the truth hurts.

People most certainly are ignoring how good Romo is/was that year. Its to the point fans are getting "sensitive" that some fans want Romo back out there.
Also why would the truth hurt? I am happy Dak is excelling. At the same time I can critique aspects of his game that I feel need improvement

You most certainly are. But what you're not allowed to do is to try to ignore facts, numbers, and statistics to do it.

Unlike you, I can look past the "facts, numbers, and statistics", and maturely critique a player's performance. Iv'e been told Romo isnt a great QB despite his numbers his whole career, right here on this board. So now, I cant do the same?

Nobody is "ignoring" what Romo did in 2014. But they're also not "ignoring" Dak's numbers along the way either.

Once again, people are most certainly ignoring what he did in 2014.

 

[Stash]

The fact that he played and wasnt prepared is more of an indictment on the inept coaching staff and not Romo. Getting the players ready for games is BOTH the players and the coaching staff's responsibility.

He bears responsibility for it as well. If he wasn't ready, he should have and would have said so. But you need to reach for an excuse that doesn't exist.

People most certainly are ignoring how good Romo is/was that year. Its to the point fans are getting "sensitive" that some fans want Romo back out there.
Also why would the truth hurt? I am happy Dak is excelling. At the same time I can critique aspects of his game that I feel need improvement

If anyone is "ignoring" anything, I'd say it's the people who quickly point to 2014 and want to ignore 2015, and the numerous injuries and games missed since.

Unlike you, I can look past the "facts, numbers, and statistics", and maturely critique a player's performance.

Looking past facts, numbers and statistics is "maturely critiquing" in your mind? If that's the case, there's not much more to say to you. You live in your world, I'll live in reality.

Iv'e been told Romo isnt a great QB despite his numbers his whole career, right here on this board. So now, I cant do the same?

So you want to go the 'two wrongs make a right' route?

Once again, people are most certainly ignoring what he did in 2014.

Nobody is ignoring it. In fact, they pointed to his exact statistics for that season in a clear and direct comparison with Prescott. Some people just can't handle that.

But if making things up that aren't true and going for the persecution route is all you have, that's on you.

 

[WillieBeamen]

He bears responsibility for it as well. If he wasn't ready, he should have and would have said so. But you need to reach for an excuse that doesn't exist.

Re-read my post. I said it's BOTH their responsibility. Obviously you don't understand how competitive Romo is. We are talking about the same guy who played with broken ribs and a punctured lung. Let me guess, it was acceptable for him to play then, because he performed well right?

If anyone is "ignoring" anything, I'd say it's the people who quickly point to 2014 and want to ignore 2015, and the numerous injuries and games missed since.

Who's ignoring 2015? You responded to my post where I was discussing his 2014 season. Nowhere in my or the other poster's post mentioned 2015.

Looking past facts, numbers and statistics is "maturely critiquing" in your mind? If that's the case, there's not much more to say to you. You live in your world, I'll live in reality.

Yes, it is possible to critique someone's performance while looking past the facts. No way could you be serious with that comment. Blake Bortles posted these stats on Thursday Night Football:
33/54 61.1% 337 yards 6.2 ypa 3tds 0int 97.5rating. If you watched the game you and anyone else would be able to see how sorry he was.

So you want to go the 'two wrongs make a right' route?

Im going the route of, im not the only one that can look at numbers and can give a mature observation without "homering" out. Dak has better numbers than Arod, Cam, Ben, and Rivers. Is he better than those Qbs too?

Nobody is ignoring it. In fact, they pointed to his exact statistics for that season in a clear and direct comparison with Prescott. Some people just can't handle that.

But if making things up that aren't true and going for the persecution route is all you have, that's on you.

Im going to end this here. I have no problem with Dak. I do have concerns with some of his mechanics and his decision making as of late. Why that bothers you and other fans, beats me. You are more than welcomed to have the last word here.

 

[Stash]

Re-read my post. I said it's BOTH their responsibility. Obviously you don't understand how competitive Romo is. We are talking about the same guy who played with broken ribs and a punctured lung. Let me guess, it was acceptable for him to play then, because he performed well right?

If - as you want to try to claim - he 'wasn't ready' to play, he shouldn't have. And knowing the player, he wouldn't have. But that would shoot your strategy all to **** so you want to ignore that.

Who's ignoring 2015? You responded to my post where I was discussing his 2014 season. Nowhere in my or the other poster's post mentioned 2015.

His most recent performances in 2015 gave us a 5 TD to 7 INT ratio, with repeated injuries and considerable time missed. But all anyone wants to bring up is 2014. 2015 happened too.

Yes, it is possible to critique someone's performance while looking past the facts. No way could you be serious with that comment. Blake Bortles posted these stats on Thursday Night Football:
33/54 61.1% 337 yards 6.2 ypa 3tds 0int 97.5rating. If you watched the game you and anyone else would be able to see how sorry he was.

So are you saying that Romo's numbers were inflated? If not, it has no bearing on this conversation.

Im going the route of, im not the only one that can look at numbers and can give a mature observation without "homering" out. Dak has better numbers than Arod, Cam, Ben, and Rivers. Is he better than those Qbs too?

Thus far in his career? Yes he is. I can take name and reputation out of it and judge him by what he's actually done. I'm not going to hold it against him that he hasn't played in more games.

Im going to end this here. I have no problem with Dak. I do have concerns with some of his mechanics and his decision making as of late. Why that bothers you and other fans, beats me. You are more than welcomed to have the last word here.

Thanks for your permission. I have some of those same concerns. Sunday Night wasn't his best game of the season and he missed several plays to be made. That said, he stepped up and won it when it mattered most and he and this team are 6-1. And I'm happy about that and not looking to change it.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Now let me say that I love Dak and everything he brings to this team and our offense. I liked him very early on in preseason, more than most. I am extremely excited about the present and the future of our Cowboys. Having said that this offense would be that much better with a healthy Romo.
If Romo had played on Sunday night the game never would have went into overtime. Actually it would have been over by the 4th quarter. There were guys running wide open all night and I am not even talking about the throws that Dak missed on, I'm talking about the ones he didn't even make.
I think we would have won easily against the Eagles. Probably by two TDs. I know everyone is in the "now" but don't forget how special a QB Romo is. I would rank him only behind Brady and Rothlisberger. I understand the injury concerns but when Tony is fully healthy he should have his job back and if he losses it to injury or bad play so be it but he should get it back.
Of course all the media and fans are going to say "Jerry is going to blow this whole thing like he always has by putting Romo back in", but I think it is the complete opposite. I think that Jerry is going to blow this whole thing by leaving Dak in there. Again this is not a knock on Dak, it's just that Romo gives us the best chance to win a Super Bowl this season.

I see your point, but I don't think the Eagles game would have been easy with Romo. I think our problems in that game had a lot to do with them being a good team. I hate to admit that, but they've been our best opponent this season. I think it would have still been a tough game.

I'm not saying your wrong about Romo though. If he still has what he had in 2014, he would be an upgrade over Dak, at least at this point, not to take anything away from the great things Dak has done.