The Umpteenth Roy Williams Gripe Thread **Merge | Deion Apology Audio Post #589**

[JonJon]

I thought we did when we went out and mortgaged the future on RW11.

The thing I hate most about it is that we where told by the owner that there wasn't any receiver in the draft that would make an immediate impact. Well those very players are making huge impacts for their teams while Roy is still trying to get in sync. I mean come on....he is supposed to be a professional. How long does it take to be able to connect on a routine pass, 3 years?

 

[Bleu Star]

The thing I hate most about it is that we where told by the owner that there wasn't any receiver in the draft that would make an immediate impact. Well those very players are making huge impacts for their teams while Roy is still trying to get in sync. I mean come on....he is supposed to be a professional. How long does it take to be able to connect on a routine pass, 3 years?

Percy Harvin is ridiculous.

 

[Eskimo]

Maybe Garrett needs to change the offense to work with the fact that Romo is one of most blizted QB in the league.

We are blitzed so much because our OL is terrible at picking it up and often one man comes in completely clean when they blitz two players even though the player should be picked up. Garrett and Houck have to got to get that down with our OL. Maybe our OL are too stupid.

One part of me suspects that our best OL right now might be (from left to right):

Free-Kosier-Gurode-Holland-Bigg

 

[Vintage]

Percy Harvin is ridiculous.

and off of our draft board.



Crabtree is looking solid too. Since we're talking about WR's that had no shot of landing in Dallas.

 

[TNCowboy]

Or maybe the Cowboys just faced 2 pretty good defenses the last couple of weeks?

Take the blinders off, Mick.

SF was able to put some points up today against the same GB defense that essentially shut Dallas out last week. So did Minnesota (twice), Cincinnati and Miami.

And when Washington hasn't been playing someone of the Raiders/Chiefs/Bucs ilk, their D has been flattened. The Broncos were doing it to them last week before Orton got hurt.

The Dallas offense has been awful the last 2 weeks. Anyone who thinks they're going to roll over the Raiders may be in for a big surprise Thursday.

 

[Bleu Star]

and off of our draft board.



Crabtree is looking solid too. Since we're talking about WR's that had no shot of landing in Dallas.

Pick # NFL Team Player Position College
1 Detroit Lions Matt Stafford Quarterback University of Georgia
2 St. Louis Rams Jason Smith Offensive tackle Baylor
3 Kansas City Chiefs Tyson Jackson Defensive end LSU
4 Seattle Seahawks Aaron Curry Outside linebacker Wake Forest
5 New York Jets (from Cleveland) [R1 trade 1] Mark Sanchez Quarterback USC
6 Cincinnati Bengals Andre Smith Offensive tackle Alabama
7 Oakland Raiders Darrius Heyward-Bey Wide receiver Maryland
8 Jacksonville Jaguars Eugene Monroe Offensive tackle Virginia
9 Green Bay Packers B. J. Raji Defensive tackle Boston College
10 San Francisco 49ers Michael Crabtree Wide receiver Texas Tech
11 Buffalo Bills Aaron Maybin Defensive end Penn State
12 Denver Broncos Knowshon Moreno Running back Georgia
13 Washington Commanders Brian Orakpo Defensive end Texas
14 New Orleans Saints Malcolm Jenkins Cornerback Ohio State
15 Houston Texans Brian Cushing Outside linebacker USC
16 San Diego Chargers Larry English Outside linebacker Northern Illinois
17 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (from New York Jets via Cleveland)[R1 trade 2] [R1 trade 3] Josh Freeman Quarterback Kansas State
18 Denver Broncos (from Chicago) [R1 trade 4] Robert Ayers Defensive end Tennessee
19 Philadelphia Eagles (from Tampa Bay via Cleveland)[R1 trade 5] [R1 trade 6] Jeremy Maclin Wide receiver Missouri
20 Detroit Lions (from Dallas) [R1 trade 7] Brandon Pettigrew Tight end Oklahoma State
21 Cleveland Browns (from Philadelphia)[R1 trade 8] Alex Mack Center California
22 Minnesota Vikings Percy Harvin Wide receiver Florida
23 Baltimore Ravens (from New England) [R1 trade 9] Michael Oher Offensive tackle Ole Miss
24 Atlanta Falcons Peria Jerry Defensive tackle Ole Miss
25 Miami Dolphins Vontae Davis Cornerback Illinois
26 Green Bay Packers (from Baltimore via New England)[R1 trade 10] [R1 trade 11] Clay Matthews Outside linebacker USC
27 Indianapolis Colts Donald Brown Running back Connecticut
28 Buffalo Bills (from Carolina via Philadelphia) [R1 trade 12] [R1 trade 13] Eric Wood Center Louisville
29 New York Giants Hakeem Nicks Wide receiver North Carolina
30 Tennessee Titans Kenny Britt Wide receiver Rutgers
31 Arizona Cardinals Chris Wells Running back Ohio State
32 Pittsburgh Steelers Evander Hood Defensive end Missouri

...... #20 traded for the venerable RW11...

 

[Bob Sacamano]

......

friggin' Hakeem Nicks went at 29

and we probably would have made a move for Maclin if we had a 1st, I think that was some of the rumblings on draft day

 

[JonJon]

and off of our draft board.



Crabtree is looking solid too. Since we're talking about WR's that had no shot of landing in Dallas.

We traded pick 20 to the Lions. Maclin was taken 19th and Harvin was taken 22nd with Nicks taken 29th. if we didn't mortgage to get Roy, there is a good chance we would have gotten Nicks or maybe even Maclin with a trade up.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Your thread title might as well have read in defense of Bin Laden because you're getting nowhere with this over here.

You know, that is pretty stupid to equate anybody in the NFL with that coward loony bins laden.



Let's have some comparative sanity for once.

 

[Bleu Star]

You know, that is pretty stupid to equate anybody in the NFL with that coward loony bins laden.



Let's have some comparative sanity for once.

newnation will defend Roy to the hilt so you're not going to get anywhere there. That's a total waste of your good breath.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

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[Vintage]

We traded pick 20 to the Lions. Maclin was taken 19th and Harvin was taken 22nd with Nicks taken 29th. if we didn't mortgage to get Roy, there is a good chance we would have gotten Nicks or maybe even Maclin with a trade up.

We could have had Nicks. Obviously.

Maclin was off the board when we drafted. Unless you can guarantee me that we'd have traded up for him... he is a moot point.

But Bleu never mentioned either of those players. He mentioned Harvin. Who was removed from our draft board, therefore, wasn't going to be a Cowboy. So I mentioned Crabtree, who was taken before we picked, who also wasn't going to be a Cowboy.

 

[Bleu Star]

We could have had Nicks. Obviously.

Maclin was off the board when we drafted. Unless you can guarantee me that we'd have traded up for him... he is a moot point.

But Bleu never mentioned either of those players. He mentioned Harvin. Who was removed from our draft board, therefore, wasn't going to be a Cowboy. So I mentioned Crabtree, who was taken before we picked, who also wasn't going to be a Cowboy.

Careful while you backpedal back down that trail. You might step on some glass.

 

[jimmy40]

...... #20 traded for the venerable RW11...

we would have traded out of the first round.

 

[DallasEast]

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What was the clerk running from??? Rabid deer???

 

[Bleu Star]

we would have traded out of the first round.

Yeah.. We're good for that... Just like we're good for 12,000 delayed draw plays in a season.

 

[Vintage]

Careful while you backpedal back down that trail. You might step on some glass.

Where am I backtracking?

LOL....

You mentioned Harvin.

Then you quoted me.

and off of our draft board.



Crabtree is looking solid too. Since we're talking about WR's that had no shot of landing in Dallas.

Then you quoted me the draft order. Which is irrelevant because even had we had our 1st rounder, with Harvin off our board, he wouldn't have been a Cowboy.

So I threw in Crabtree, because if you are going to bemoan a WR that had no chance of being a Cowboy, I figure I can too...

 

[Bleu Star]

[youtube]UAvhtBSxwWQ[/youtube]

omg.. That was great!

 

[Bleu Star]

Where am I backtracking?

LOL....

You mentioned Harvin.

Then you quoted me.



Then you quoted me the draft order. Which is irrelevant because even had we had our 1st rounder, with Harvin off our board, he wouldn't have been a Cowboy.

So I threw in Crabtree, because if you are going to bemoan a WR that had no chance of being a Cowboy, I figure I can too...

Take a second (and a deep breath)

#20 goes bye bye when the Cowboys acquire RW11. That's shaping up to be possibly one of the worst day 1 trades ever. Harvin could have been a Cowboy. I don't care if he was or was not on our draft board. I can't account for the idiocy that can sometimes permeate a war room. Harvin could have been a Cowboy. Period.

Be happy with the knowledge that he was off our board though. What exactly does that prove? Please explain.

 

[Bleu Star]

Where am I backtracking?

LOL....

You mentioned Harvin.

Then you quoted me.



Then you quoted me the draft order. Which is irrelevant because even had we had our 1st rounder, with Harvin off our board, he wouldn't have been a Cowboy.

So I threw in Crabtree, because if you are going to bemoan a WR that had no chance of being a Cowboy, I figure I can too...

Your boy definitely caused a slight shift in your little sig stat line today. His longest TD from scrimmage today... He really looked over the hill too on that one. :laugh2: