The Utter Collapse of The Philadelphia Eagles Has Begun

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Not after two season he didn't.

There's zero chance of the Eagles firing Chip Kelly.

Zero.

Agreed. But there is a chance that Chip could lose some of his power on the personnel side. Right now the GM basically rubber stamps whatever he wants to do. Letting go of DeSean Jackson and drafting Marcus Smith look to be two horrendous decisions. This last draft class in particular has been invisible.
 

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Not an Eagles fan - just astounded at how complacent they became after running off the 24 straight points. If they miss the playoffs after starting 9-3, no way does Kelly survive.

What is your evidence of complacency? Their offense never had the ball with the lead.
 

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Agreed. But there is a chance that Chip could lose some of his power on the personnel side. Right now the GM basically rubber stamps whatever he wants to do. Letting go of DeSean Jackson and drafting Marcus Smith look to be two horrendous decisions. This last draft class in particular has been invisible.

To me, that DeSean Jackson move showed how much real power Kelly has at this point.

And I see that continuing for at least the next few years.

There are two things that aren't happening.

1) The Eagles aren't losing their next two games to NFL bottom feeders.

and

2) Chip Kelly isn't getting fired any time soon.
 

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Actually I think DeSean Jackson was the guy who made it go. Which is why McCoy hasn't been nearly as effective this year. They lost that speed dynamic that teams had to respect on every down.

I don't think McCoy's long for Philadelphia. There are rumblings he's on his way out as the team just doesn't believe in paying huge dollars on a long term contract extension for a RB.

That wouldn't shock me at all. He's already been replaced for short yardage situations and I don't think Chip Kelly is a real fan of his all-too-often negative runs while always looking for a home run.

I think McCoy read too many of his own 'press clippings' and went Hollywood. Pair that with a huge salary in a league trying to lower the prices for running backs and it adds up to a pretty good chance he's let go.
 

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What is your evidence of complacency? Their offense never had the ball with the lead.

Their defensive performance after obtaining the lead. They allowed 10 points in Dallas, and 38 at home. That is complacency against a team they solved on Thanksgiving.
 

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To me, that DeSean Jackson move showed how much real power Kelly has at this point.

And I see that continuing for at least the next few years.

There are two things that aren't happening.

1) The Eagles aren't losing their next two games to NFL bottom feeders.

and

2) Chip Kelly isn't getting fired any time soon.

I agree but I sure as heck hope Jackson has a big game vs Philly this weekend. Chances are your right Washington will not win but sometimes all it takes is a couple of big plays and Commander pass rush on sanchez and the unexpected happens. :)
 

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What is your evidence of complacency? Their offense never had the ball with the lead.

Actually, I think he has it backwards. I think the Cowboys, after showing the Eagles that they have no business being on the same field by running up a 21-0 lead, became a bit complacent. The Eagles took the lead, the Cowboys said no problem, and proceeded to outscore the Eagles 17-3 from that point on. Total domination. Watching the replay of the game last night, I heard the announcer say that he had never seen the Cowboys looking so confident going into such a big game. They looked that confident because they were that confident. They were that confident because they knew they were better than the Eagles by a significant margin.

The Eagles aren't in the same class as the Cowboys. The sooner Eagles fans (e.g. Stryker) learn to accept that, the sooner the healing can begin. Eagles fans, I'm sorry, the Cowboys aren't going to lose to the Colts, they aren't going to lose to the Commanders. If you could distance yourself from your desperation and suffering, you'd see how much of a pipe dream that really is. This is the time of year when the contenders separate themselves from the pretenders. It has always been that way. You had your chance but you ran into a much better team, a team that embarrassed you on your home field. It's really that simple.
 

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Their defensive performance after obtaining the lead. They allowed 10 points in Dallas, and 38 at home. That is complacency against a team they solved on Thanksgiving.

This being the case, I just solved your mystery. The team they played on Thanksgiving was not the same team they played Sunday night. The team the Eagles played on thanisgiving was exhausted from the shortest turnaround in NFL history.
 

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Actually I think DeSean Jackson was the guy who made it go. Which is why McCoy hasn't been nearly as effective this year. They lost that speed dynamic that teams had to respect on every down.

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I agree completely and I think it has only gotten worse since Sanchez took over as he has no deep ball accuracy whatsoever. Teams will stuff McCoy all day and happily take their chances with Sanchez/Maclin beating them over the top.
 

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Their defensive performance after obtaining the lead. They allowed 10 points in Dallas, and 38 at home. That is complacency against a team they solved on Thanksgiving.

Not everything is complacency or effort. Sometimes you simply get overwhelmed. It happens. Every game is different.


Fletcher was probably toast against Dez no matter how hard he tried.
 

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I agree but I sure as heck hope Jackson has a big game vs Philly this weekend. Chances are your right Washington will not win but sometimes all it takes is a couple of big plays and Commander pass rush on sanchez and the unexpected happens. :)

Let's hope!

:thumbup:
 

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I definitely don't think Chip will go anywhere. He have transformed Philly into a contender within two year's time and it's much shorter than what it took Garrett to revamp Dallas Cowboys. I'm interested to see the new changes years to come.
 

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Why would Jones want Marinelli - a broken defeated man after the only 0-16 season in NFL history, over Kiffin?

As a HC... When has Marinelli been a bad DC? Kiffen failed as a DC, shattering records in pathetic defense last year. He was awful at USC prior, meaning it was clearly evidence he was no longer what he was.
 

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Really? This is one of the worst posts I have ever seen. Dumb beyond the pale.

Yes i agree but more truobling is the thought that one should judge what posts be read and what posts should not. Just let ever one read it and decide for herself. it is called diversity and without it we are left with vanila ice posts that ever body nod their heads and say "I agree!"
Nein. All posts are god children and they should be judge on the content of their souls and not as to logic. that is all i half to say.
dont make me cue in the "Battle Hum of the Republican" and really espand on this subjeck.
 

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I definitely don't think Chip will go anywhere. He have transformed Philly into a contender within two year's time and it's much shorter than what it took Garrett to revamp Dallas Cowboys. I'm interested to see the new changes years to come.
Chip took over from Andy Reid... one of the better head coaches in the league.

Garrett took over from Wade Phillips... one of the better defensive coordinators in the NFL... but also one of the worst head coaches in the NFL.

Reid had some good players and he had already instilled discipline and had run one of the better teams for the past decade. Yeah, the team got tired of Andy and he eventually lost the team but it was a franchise that had been run well for the most part. The right culture was, for the most part, intact when Kelly got to Philly. He had to implement his offense and find a decent defensive coordinator, but there simply wasn't that much to "fix" in that team.

Philly's salary cap was in pretty good shape and they could spend to bring in the free agents Kelly wanted. Also, the unusual nature of Chip's offensive scheme gave him an advantage going in too. The NFL has now had not quite two years to see what Kelly does on offense and they will continue to slow it down better than they have to this point. Plus, unlike Garrett, Kelly had a good bit of head coaching experience coming in, even if it wasn't in the NFL.

On the other hand, when Garrett took over from Wade Phillips, not only was he taking over from a coach that was very soft (both literally and figuratively) but he was inheriting a franchise that had been dysfunctional for the better part of fifteen years. Discipline was non existent with Wade as HC and the team hadn't been pushed since Parcells left in 2006. Garrett needed to get rid of many high priced, low producing veterans who didn't seem to care that much about wins and losses and had long ago waved goodbye to their primes. He needed to change the way the team drafted, the way they analyzed talent, the way they ran free agency, as well as how they practiced and how they churned the roster. Garrett pretty much had to start from scratch. He had to root out the wrong attitude, work ethic, and age from the roster. All with a salary cap that was screwed before he ever took the HC position in Dallas.

I'm not saying that Chip Kelly isn't a good coach, because I think he is. Really good. I'm not saying that Garrett is a better coach than Kelly is either, because I'm not sure which is better at this point.

All I'm saying is that the job Garrett had in Dallas was a much larger scale endeavor than what Kelly inherited in the city of brotherly love.
 

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Chip isn't going anywhere. Right now he is having wet dreams over how to convince lurie all he needs is Marriotta to get them a ring
 
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