The Weeden or What if Tebow or Johnny Football (or any other QB out there) mega thread *merged*

[sbark]

Heck, put Randle in there at QB........he could "steal" a few yards here and there, and at least the offense would smell better.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

I'd easily take Shane Falco.

Ill raise you Willie Beamon

I, mean, The real Willie Beamon (get them mixed up sometimes)

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Cris Carter "mentioned it" as he talked about Brian Hoyer doing well in Cleveland and how JFF would be popular in Texas. He said the Texans could use him to fill the building, and then he just had to mention Dallas if something happens to Romo.

 

[Stash]

Cris Carter "mentioned it" as he talked about Brian Hoyer doing well in Cleveland and how JFF would be popular in Texas. He said the Texans could use him to fill the building, and then he just had to mention Dallas if something happens to Romo.

I was thinking the same thing.

With Hoyer playing well and the Browns winning, he could be in line to get a multi-year deal.

If that happens, the Browns would then look to possibly trade Manziel. And if he should become available, you can't help but think that Jerry Jones and the Cowboys would be interested.

Especially due to recent events in Dallas, with Romo getting hurt (and conceivably being one hit away from getting hurt again), and Weeden showing to be incapable of getting the job done in relief.

 

[visionary]

Orton didn't want to be in Dallas. He would have been horrible here because he didn't want to be here. Dallas didn't mishandle anything. You can't force a player to stick around and you can't trust a guy who doesn't want to be on the team and accept the backup role. He wanted a chance to start and he wasn't going to get it with the Cowboys. If he had a good attitude and accepted his role he would have been a good backup in Dallas, but he didn't. Letting him walk was the right choice.

Sanchez and McCoy are the same poor options as Weeden. You would be complaining about both of them if they were here. There is no difference between the three guys except for the price tag.

You fine orton. The situation was clearly handled poorly. Jerry knows he will never have anyone's respect from a football perspective so he overpays so players and coaches will be his friends and not bad mouth him once they leave so he does not play hardball. The franchise suffers.

Sanchez came on the middle of a game in a hostile environment led the eagles to a win on the road

McCoy beat us in our own house

Weeden had one of the worst QBRs at home and was a big reason for the loss

Either our FO made horrible decisions on their back up QB (going into a season with the starter who had a high likelihood of missing some playing time) or they have a bad coaching staff

Either represents a very significant organizational failure

 

[joseephuss]

Fining Orton would have accomplished nothing. He didn't want to be in Dallas. He would have just retired. It isn't a difficult concept to grasp.

McCoy and Sanchez are both trash. So is Weeden. So are most backups in this league. The Houston Texans stadium is not a hostile environment.

 

[tyke1doe]

I have to agree with Joseephuss. Orton has always wanted to start and is a very bad teammate when he thinks he should be starting. The same thing happened in Denver as it did in Dallas. Orton forced his way out. And he would have retired if the Cowboys didn't let him out. Money wasn't an issue for him. I suspect he's invested his money well. He wants to start and doesn't feel like he's gotten a fair shot - right or wrong. If a player doesn't care about money, that's the only way he can hold a franchise hostage.

 

[Gaede]

That scenario is very realistic.

 

[Bungarian]

Don't care

 

[waving monkey]

Im asking this because I don't know. How has Manziel been so far in Cleveland?
Has he shown something? I really don't know.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Im asking this because I don't know. How has Manziel been so far in Cleveland?
Has he shown something? I really don't know.

You mean in practice?

 

[AmericanCowboy]

If they are willing to trade him for a third or fourth then id be all for it.

Somehow i doubt they look to trade him anytime in the near future. The earliest this would get done is the offseason 2016.

They have him under a cheap contract for 5 years- there is no rushto get rid of him.

 

[CATCH17]

Cleveland will be lucky to get back what they gave up.

Best thing for them to do is let him sit on the bench for a awhile longer until he's ready to play or someone makes them a crazy offer.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Tebow. At least he can run the read option. Chew up time off the clock and Dallas can possibly win a 13-10 game.





YR

 

[conner01]

if he can't beat out hoyer then it's obvious he is not ready to start in the nfl. he needs to develope and i don't see cleveland trading him while he is signed cheap and would'nt bring anywhere close to what they gave for him. he is in a good situation,he does'nt have to start. he can learn, grow up and develope as a qb without the pressure of being a starter

 

[ElGatoGrande]

I want the next QB to be in the Luck mold, not RGIII light.

 

[RamziD]

I'd rather Hoyer be our backup if Cleveland decides to go all in on Manziel. That's a much better scenario.

 

[Hook'em#11]

I'm thinking this is something that Dallas's FO should of thought about and planned for a couple years back. This is the Aikman Scenario all over again.

 

[Stash]

I have to agree with Joseephuss. Orton has always wanted to start and is a very bad teammate when he thinks he should be starting. The same thing happened in Denver as it did in Dallas. Orton forced his way out. And he would have retired if the Cowboys didn't let him out. Money wasn't an issue for him. I suspect he's invested his money well. He wants to start and doesn't feel like he's gotten a fair shot - right or wrong. If a player doesn't care about money, that's the only way he can hold a franchise hostage.

This glosses over the fact that he would have and should have had to pay back $3 million in bonus money. Something he was never going to do. And if "money wasn't an issue", why did he take a $5 million deal with Buffalo? The fact is that money is always an issue.

That's all the leverage anyone needs and it's the point everyone wants to gloss over in defending the stupidity.

Orton was the second player to get "Money for Nuthin'" from Jerry Jones and this franchise, reinforcing the terrible precedent established by the Jay Ratliff debacle, another embarrassment everybody wants to erase from memory and pretend never happened.

The Orton situation was another botch job that I'm not about to excuse or pretend never happened.

And it tells the next malcontent that if you cause enough problems in Dallas, you'll get whatever you want.

 

[DoctorChicken]

I'd love it.