The Wheat hit

LACowboysFan1

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I mean they are going to call it every time whether it was technically legal or not when the point of contact is that high.
Upstairs people could clearly see he hit him with his shoulder into his chest.

They just chose to call it, the league always likes close games....
 

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Upstairs people could clearly see he hit him with his shoulder into his chest.

They just chose to call it, the league always likes close games....
" ...forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the
initial contact is lower than the player’s neck, and regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle
the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him;"​

Seems to me the rules say they had to call it.
 

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" ...forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the
initial contact is lower than the player’s neck, and regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle
the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him;"​

Seems to me the rules say they had to call it.
Well, you've never seen a Ref you didn't want to breastfeed after blowing a call so there's that too
 

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" ...forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the
initial contact is lower than the player’s neck, and regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle
the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him;"​

Seems to me the rules say they had to call it.
He didn't hit his head at all. I understand, they're trying to protect the qb at all costs, but that was a b.s. call.
 

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He didn't hit his head at all. I understand, they're trying to protect the qb at all costs, but that was a b.s. call.
The rule says "head or neck area" and "even if the contact is lower than the player's neck." Is that not what happened?
 

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The rule says "head or neck area" and "even if the contact is lower than the player's neck." Is that not what happened?
I did not see him hit the head or neck. Maybe someone has a still shot.
 

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" ...forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the
initial contact is lower than the player’s neck, and regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle
the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him;"​

Seems to me the rules say they had to call it.
The contact was led with shoulder pad to chest not neck. Any forcible contact to chest is gonna make whiplash effect. He did not make forcible impact to head or neck whether their helmets contact due to the severity of the hit. I mean I knew they were gonna call it but I am not sure it is legit. The QB has some responsibility there when he chooses to come back across the field - he should not get bailed out for being stupid!
 

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I'm guessing they called a hit to the head. It was either that, or he hit him too hard.
 

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The contact was led with shoulder pad to chest not neck. Any forcible contact to chest is gonna make whiplash effect. He did not make forcible impact to head or neck whether their helmets contact due to the severity of the hit. I mean I knew they were gonna call it but I am not sure it is legit. The QB has some responsibility there when he chooses to come back across the field - he should not get bailed out for being stupid!
But the rule says "even if the initial contact is lower than the player’s neck." Was it lower than the neck?
 

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But the rule says "even if the initial contact is lower than the player’s neck." Was it lower than the neck?
I think his shoulder pad hit shoulder pad. If he had hit head first Fields helmet goes back on contact. It does not. His head goes forward and contacts Wheats helmet. It is going to get called but a great hit nonetheless!
 

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I think his shoulder pad hit shoulder pad. If he had hit head first Fields helmet goes back on contact. It does not. His head goes forward and contacts Wheats helmet. It is going to get called but a great hit nonetheless!
I agree, I don't think the hit was flush on the helmet and Field's head coming forward is what made his helmet touch. Reminds me of that peelback block on Sean Lee in Seattle 10 years ago. I was at that game and even I had to say that was a good football hit. Can't do a lot of those things anymore.
 

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I had no problem with the call.

While I don't like to see ANY player get injured, I do think play makers should be fair game for getting the snot knocked out of them.
 

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No it didn't. Completely legit hit.


"In covering the passer position, Referees will be particularly alert to fouls in which defenders impermissibly use the helmet and/or facemask to hit the passer, or use hands, arms, or other parts of the body to hit the passer forcibly in the head or neck area (see also the other unnecessary roughness rules covering these subjects). A defensive player must not use his helmet against a passer who is in a defenseless posture—for example, (1) forcibly hitting the passer’s head or neck area with the helmet or facemask, even if the initial contact of the defender’s helmet or facemask is lower than the passer’s neck, and regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the passer by encircling or grasping him; or (2) lowering the head and making forcible contact with any part of the helmet against any part of the passer’s body. This rule does not prohibit incidental contact by the mask or the helmet in the course of a conventional tackle on a passer."

For the record, the neck area does not have to be the head. Wheat hit him high and whether he intended to hit him high or not his helmet made forcible contract with Fields' neck area.

They will call this every single time they see if because the league wants them to.
 

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I dont think he actually got his chin, but if you are close and it looks bad they will call it. Wheat led with his shoulder so it's not dirty. The unacceptable personal fouls were Hoffman and Wilson.
 
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