Theories on Julius

[burmafrd]

JJ has plenty of vision and can cut on a dime; there is no sign of injury as regards his ankles. He is running exactly the way BP wants him to run; and the O line is not good run blocking between the 20's which is where JJ gets his carries; you notice that only in the 4th QTR has MB been getting good runs between the 20's.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I like option #1

 

[sago1]

My theory re JJ is rather simple. First off Parcells obviously likes what MBIII is doing cause he's getting more carries while JJ is getting less. In tough situations, it's MBIII who goes in and not JJ. I like the 2 RB alternating system Parcells employs, but despite JJ 4.0+ average, I don't think he's contribulating his share of the yards. I'm not sure MBIII has enough speed to be a legit starting RB which is why Parcells continues giving the ball to JJ. I also don't believe we can win a SB with JJ as our starter nor MBIII cause latter will wear down & not be explosive enough when we need him later in the game. But apparently we will stick with what we now have for rest of this season.

In 07 will be Tyler Thompson's 3rd season and we all know what that means. He's gotta show more in preseason so he becomes effective part of our backfield (picks up the blitz, decent receiver, etc) or he's gone. His return avg won't keep him on this team cause it looks like Austin can get the job done. I'm taking the long way of saying both JJ & TT may not be around next year unless both step it up.

If Parcells sticks with JJ & MB as our twosome next year (unless JJ shows lot more then he has done this year), then Parcells isn't doing his job. I'm not saying JJ will be cut but JJ could find himself the #3 RB with MBIII #2 and a new #1 brought in--whether it be a RB selected in the draft or a FA. Remember we don't need an Edgerrin James but we do need a #1 RB who produces more then JJ has in our twosome system.

 

[Doomsday]

The argument that MB's numbers are better then JJ's number because he is in there on 3rd down and in better situatios is a bunch of BS. Yea Barber gets some carries on 2nd and 3rd and long but he is also getting a high percentage of his carries on 3rd and short and in the redzone where it doesnt any tougher to run the ball.

 

[superpunk]

JJ has plenty of vision and can cut on a dime; there is no sign of injury as regards his ankles. He is running exactly the way BP wants him to run; and the O line is not good run blocking between the 20's which is where JJ gets his carries; you notice that only in the 4th QTR has MB been getting good runs between the 20's.

That's not doing a bit of good if he's gonna be stopped by outstretched arms. His vision was leading him near the holes the other night. He just couldn't get there. It's clear who the better back is - but our system is working for now, so there's no need for change.

 

[aikemirv]

I wish we have a back like LT or Gore, they are monsters. JJ and Barber are very mediocre. Barber is better than Julius though, he should be our starter.

You are nuts if you think Barber is mediocre. The man has as good of balance as any back in the NFL, and I mean any back. Jones is running right now as if he is mediocre I will agree, but to call Barber mediocre at this point is pretty ridiculous.

 

[Doomsday101]

Given Barber play I would not doubt he will start seeing more playing time. As I said in the past I like both guys and feel together they make up a good RB tandem but anyone who has been watching the games knows Barber has been running the ball better and when around the goal line he will not be denied

 

[DTK]

Can anyone actually remember the last time JJ broke a tackle?

 

[Doomsday]

Can anyone actually remember the last time JJ broke a tackle?

I honestly cant. Emmitt made a living at making the first man miss. I miss the good old days when they would show stats of how many yards our RBs would get after making the first guy miss.

 

[Martice]

Given Barber play I would not doubt he will start seeing more playing time. As I said in the past I like both guys and feel together they make up a good RB tandem but anyone who has been watching the games knows Barber has been running the ball better and when around the goal line he will not be denied

What can you add to the above post. Not much but I'll try.

Burmarfd's arguments for JJ sound much like arguments for Drew to start for the Cowboys.

You can blame the O line, the field position or the lack of conditioning of the opposing team. You can even blame the QB switch, BP changing up his running style (whatever) or even blame his bulking up slowing him down or bad ankles but one thing that has been consistant during the whole year and partially last year is that MB runs harder than JJ and appears to have more overall tools.

Anyone who knows Parcells history knows that MB is more a typical BP back than JJ. MB is more in the mold of what BP likes in a RB and it should be of no surprise that he is more successful in this system.

Other than the homerun threat, what does JJ have over MB?

 

[EndGame]

I have a hard time believing Barber can run like he does for 25 carries per game. I'd like to see him as the starter and Jones as the 3rd down back, however Jones isn't half the pass blocker that Barber is. Basically, the system is working just fine right now. Don't mess with something that's not broken. If we move up in the draft next year it will be for a free safety, and I hope to heck Watkins gets better so we don't have to.

 

[Scowboys8]

He is running exactly the way BP wants him to run

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!

JJ is so scared to lose yardage BP has taken away his willingness to try to bounce a play or two outside if nothing is there.]

 

[aikemirv]

He is running exactly the way BP wants him to run

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!

JJ is so scared to lose yardage BP has taken away his willingness to try to bounce a play or two outside if nothing is there.]

I do believe that he is running the way BP wants him to for the most part. Bill is happy with 3-4 yards on a first down run, he is not concerned with the fact that Julius does not break it outside.

They were doing a special on BP right before the game, and he was stressing during practice that the running backs not run east and west but north and south.

Many choose to ignore this and just blame it on JJ, but this is what he has been coached to do like it or not.

My problem is, is that you don't take a RB like Julius and turn him into a straight ahead runner, it does not fit his style or his best attributes, which are his cutting ability and quickness.

 

[jaybird]

Why can't JJ "cut back" at the line of scrimage, (i.e. barber and LT). He only cuts after he cleanely clears the line of scrimmage. Can he learn this or is it natrual instinct that he doesn't have? With that said he's not a bad back, he's still pretty solid, just not great like we hoped.

 

[aikemirv]

Why can't JJ "cut back" at the line of scrimage, (i.e. barber and LT). He only cuts after he cleanely clears the line of scrimmage. Can he learn this or is it natrual instinct that he doesn't have? With that said he's not a bad back, he's still pretty solid, just not great like we hoped.

Sorry, if you don't hear BP, but he does not want his backs cutting at the line of scrimmage. He wants them hitting the hole the play was designed for and then taking on the safeties. He has said this over and over again.

 

[DTK]

Sorry, if you don't hear BP, but he does not want his backs cutting at the line of scrimmage. He wants them hitting the hole the play was designed for and then taking on the safeties. He has said this over and over again.

The problem with JJ is he isn't even hitting the hole. He runs right into the back of the OL or into defenders instead of making one cut.

The run MBIII made when he slapped Lawyer Milloy, was designed to go inside. Instead, he bounced it outside. JJ would have NEVER done that. He would have ran into the back of the OL and been stopped short of the 1st down. So I have to disagree with the statement about cutting at the LOS.

 

[burmafrd]

Would NEVER have done it? He has DONE it many times, mostly in 2004. More so called OPINION trying to masquerade as fact.

 

[DTK]

Would NEVER have done it? He has DONE it many times, mostly in 2004. More so called OPINION trying to masquerade as fact.

What? Of course it's an opinion. I'm not trying to "masquerade as fact". But if the last time he did it was in 2004, what good is that in 2006?

 

[burmafrd]

You might want to look at Carolina last year. JJ did it several times in that game as well. Gee, its really hard to have to remind people of what real FANS should already KNOW.

 

[DTK]

Has he done it lately? NO!

And in that Carolina game, he ran straight up the gut without having to make a serious cut to score. Simple hit the hole and go. Most backs can do that. JJ's speed got him in the endzone. He didn't break a tackle or juke out some defender.

Real fan? Now you're questioning my loyalty? Come on. Get off it.

Are you Juluis Jones?