Theories on Julius

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Ok, rookie season, Julius looks like the next coming of Barry Sanders with his open field elusiveness[sp]. He was making everyone miss. Last season, he had a bad ankle injury which cost him most of the season; however, the game against Carliona proved he was back. This season, we have seen no elusiveneness. My theory is one of two things.


1. He put on too much muscle weight. Very good possibilty. 10 lbs could mean the world to an athlete

2. His ankle never really recovered.

OR

3. No heart


The man has the tools, he proved that already. Its something else.
 

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playmakers;1242364 said:
Ok, rookie season, Julius looks like the next coming of Barry Sanders with his open field elusiveness[sp]. He was making everyone miss. Last season, he had a bad ankle injury which cost him most of the season; however, the game against Carliona proved he was back. This season, we have seen no elusiveneness. My theory is one of two things.


1. He put on too much muscle weight. Very good possibilty. 10 lbs could mean the world to an athlete

2. His ankle never really recovered.

OR

3. No heart


The man has the tools, he proved that already. Its something else.

you are right and now my question is do we go after another RB in the draft. I mean JJ runs against the same D MB does in the same game, yet MB get more yardage and looks more powerfull. I say Dallas trades up to get Adrian Peterson, oh man I badly want the cowboys to get him .
 

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JuJo did not make anyone forget Barry... I think JuJo problem is his lack of leg drive!!! the 10lbs u say he gain was where? upper body... does alot of good for a RB!!!

his first year he was running on fresh legs... not sure he has that type of success had he played the entire year!!!
 

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Haley94;1242371 said:
I really like Turner on San Diego. RFA this year.



Turner might be too much.

I think he is upping his value with every touch.

Regardless I think we are sticking with our current duo of JJ and MBIII.

I have no problems at all with this. For now.
 

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I suspect that Julius is playing with an injury...he often looks like he is hurting after he is tackled.
 

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He doesnt have spin move. MB3 spins away from the defenders in the hole and JJ's jukes dont work when its in close quarters.
 

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i think we keep donig the same we are now we just switch mb3 and jj on the depth chart until jj proves he's ready to take the carries away from mb3, if he ever will be able to
 

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4.) He was never good enough to begin with.

Thats what I think it is. People saw two games and proclaimed him as the second coming at RB without fully realising all of the aspects in his game.
 

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I wish we have a back like LT or Gore, they are monsters. JJ and Barber are very mediocre. Barber is better than Julius though, he should be our starter.
 

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JustSayNotoTO;1242418 said:
4.) He was never good enough to begin with.

Thats what I think it is. People saw two games and proclaimed him as the second coming at RB without fully realising all of the aspects in his game.

Completely agree......
 

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JustSayNotoTO;1242418 said:
4.) He was never good enough to begin with.

Thats what I think it is. People saw two games and proclaimed him as the second coming at RB without fully realising all of the aspects in his game.
its funny because ive been saying this forever . even when he had that big game in seattle . i respect him because he is an nfl player but hes probaly just a really good backup .
 

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And most of you are full of crap.If any of this garbage was true he would not be starting and getting most of the carries.
 

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burmafrd;1242451 said:
And most of you are full of crap.If any of this garbage was true he would not be starting and getting most of the carries.
no need to argue . he is what he is ... an average back .
 

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In your opinion- not BP's, which is what counts. Whine all you want.
 

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burmafrd;1242451 said:
And most of you are full of crap.If any of this garbage was true he would not be starting and getting most of the carries.

He's starting yes. But he's getting fewer and fewer carries for a reason and ultimately, I surmise he will NOT be starting.
 

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Statistically, Julius is having his best season. The things that have really come down are the 20+ yard runs and the TDs. I would say that this is the OL's fault, but we see that MBIII has a much better ypc, albeit situational, than JJ. Also, what we see MBIII accomplish is exceptional and punishing while we see Julius running into the pile alot. Julius also seems to lack consistency.

I wondered if this had more to do with the play calling. Since Romo has entered the picture, the Cowboys get pass happy at times. While game situations sometimes dictates this, there have also been times when the Cowboys are only down by 1 or 2 scores with plenty of time where we try to get quick scores instead of methodically mixing run/pass to drive the ball down the field. Julius needs about 20 carries to really get going. While the stats I found don't prove much, what I can say for sure is that he's only had about 11 attempts/game in the last 4 games and he's gotten less carries in recent games.

1st 5 games
JJ = 21.6 carries/game

Last 8 games
JJ = 15.75 carries/game

Run/Pass Ratio w/ Bledsoe = 1:1
33/20
38/31
20/38
38/33
30/37
tot= 159/159

Run/Pass ratio w/Romo = 1.13/1

W vs. Car - 36 pass / 35 runs (JJ 24)
L vs. Wash - 36 pass/ 27 runs (JJ 20)
W vs. Ari - 29 pass / 33 runs (JJ 15)
W vs. Indy - 23 pass / 31 runs (JJ 22)
W vs. TB - 29 pass / 34 runs (JJ 11)
W vs. NYG - 34 pass / 23 runs (JJ 11)
L vs. NO 33 pass / 12 runs (JJ 10)
W vs. ATL 29 pass / 24 runs (JJ 13)

tot = 249/219

I just went back and watched JJ's runs from his rookie year and second preseason. A couple of things really stuck out to me.

1) He followed Larry Allen ALOT...LA/Flozell combo made large holes between the left tackle and guard which Julius decisively exploded through. This is where a lot of JJ's big runs went. We saw JJ run through the same hole on the 77yd run vs. NO. As for Frank Gore, who is he following when he's gaining all those yards? LA...

2) He wasn't afraid to make cuts against the grain of the run. Now he only runs North-South and plows into a pile

3) JJ had way more cutting ability before. I think it's a combination of wanting to run the play as designed, being too bulked up, and hurt ankles. Before, it was several cuts and now it's one cut and explode into whatever pile he happens to cut into.

4) maybe JJ's vision really isn't that good. We run a lot more traps and pulls now that we have more mobile linemen. Those seem to require a RB to read a bit more than straight ahead mauling kind of blocking which we did more of before.

5) there's always the theory that the Jones brothers are good one year and not so good the next...? grasping at straws here. Well...I really can't prove that with stats...only selectively.

T. Jones
2002 ypc 3.7
2003 ypc 4.6
2004 ypc 4.0
2005 ypc 4.3
2006 ypc 4.1

I keep repeating myself, but how can a guy that looked so special in one season look so normal in another season?
 

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Sarge;1242466 said:
He's starting yes. But he's getting fewer and fewer carries for a reason and ultimately, I surmise he will NOT be starting.

Maybe next year.
 
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