There are still quite a few OL candidates out

[BrAinPaiNt]

So basically what you are saying is that we now will have two huge glaring holes on the offensive line and will roll into the draft with them heavy on our minds?

Forgive me if that doesn't have me jumping for joy.

I make my posts with the out that IF we do not sign an RG or RT.

With that in mind if we do not sign one of those, no it does not have to be yesterday, today or tomorrow but sometime in the near future.

What we will do is have to find these positions either with players currently on the team or in the draft.

Now we only have 3 OTs on this team right now and only one has starting EXP in Flo.

I take it that we will part ways with Rivera so that would leave us 3 OGs on this team now.

We have no OTs or OGs on our practice squad right now either.

So we have three OGs and three OTs realistically on our team right with one OT and OG with starting exp.

What happens in my mind if we do not sign a OT or OG in FA is that we automatically dictate to the team that we will be going OT and OG in the draft.

It no longer becomes a draft of BPA it becomes a draft of need.

My fear is if that becomes the case we will wind up reaching big time for OG and OT and wind up having a draft similar to the "three amigos/gloves" draft where we were drafting and reaching for DBs and none of them wound up lasting on our team.

That is something people need to consider here when saying we can just get OL in the draft.

Do people want to go into the draft with the idea that we are short on not only starters on the Right side of the line but also depth across the board on the line.

Remember we still have no backup center either at this time.

Not something I would care to go into the draft thinking that we need to get a RT, OG, backup center and think we have to get them so we reach.

IF we can get at least one decent OT or OG in FA it would make me feel better about the situation. Now it is early so that still may happen.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

right now, alot of options would be as good

Columbo is not a probowler or even close...he is an average player

David

What options? It is so easy to just say anyone can be as good...yet give no examples.

Nobody is saying we are going to go out and get a pro bowler at the position. However we would like to have a little proven exp at the position.

We are not going to get pro bowlers across the board...I think only a handful that live in madden land think that.

So since there are a lot of options, according to you, how about naming a lot of these options now.

Maybe you will change some minds with naming these options.

Colombo may be an average player...but right now we don't even have an average player at RG or RT...we have one guy at OG that will probably retire or be cut, we have an unproven guy that we can't say is average because we don't know in proctor.
At RT we have the option of McQuistan and Jason Fabini. I guess we could start Fabini but considering Colombo is just average it would seem that Fabini is below average as he could not win the starting job and that is taking into consideration that he was one of "Bills" guys so that should tel you he is nothing more than a backup now. McQuistan we have no way of knowing at this point.

 

[Cbz40]

I make my posts with the out that IF we do not sign an RG or RT.

With that in mind if we do not sign one of those, no it does not have to be yesterday, today or tomorrow but sometime in the near future.

What we will do is have to find these positions either with players currently on the team or in the draft.

Now we only have 3 OTs on this team right now and only one has starting EXP in Flo.

I take it that we will part ways with Rivera so that would leave us 3 OGs on this team now.

We have no OTs or OGs on our practice squad right now either.

So we have three OGs and three OTs realistically on our team right with one OT and OG with starting exp.

What happens in my mind if we do not sign a OT or OG in FA is that we automatically dictate to the team that we will be going OT and OG in the draft.

It no longer becomes a draft of BPA it becomes a draft of need.

My fear is if that becomes the case we will wind up reaching big time for OG and OT and wind up having a draft similar to the "three amigos/gloves" draft where we were drafting and reaching for DBs and none of them wound up lasting on our team.

That is something people need to consider here when saying we can just get OL in the draft.

Do people want to go into the draft with the idea that we are short on not only starters on the Right side of the line but also depth across the board on the line.

Remember we still have no backup center either at this time.

Not something I would care to go into the draft thinking that we need to get a RT, OG, backup center and think we have to get them so we reach.

IF we can get at least one decent OT or OG in FA it would make me feel better about the situation. Now it is early so that still may happen.

WOW!!!!!!! How can anyone be this articulate this early in the morning beats the heck out of me..........scratching head.

 

[Alexander]

I make my posts with the out that IF we do not sign an RG or RT.

Yes, but if you look closely, the RT options are virtually depleted.

We have one option in McIntosh, who is now in Kansas City visiting. The other is Colombo. If both go then we are in a huge pickle.

Leonard Davis will be able to name his price and then we can consider ourselves forced into spending money we didn't want to spend.

Or we can pretend that Luke Petitgout is the player we really wanted all along.

RT is crucial. I am so nervous right now, I am even to the point of convincing myself that getting a RT and starting Proctor is a winning situation.

We have no OTs or OGs on our practice squad right now either.

Don't be ridiculous. Trey Darilek will come in and save us.

What happens in my mind if we do not sign a OT or OG in FA is that we automatically dictate to the team that we will be going OT and OG in the draft.

It no longer becomes a draft of BPA it becomes a draft of need.

We have excellent results when we do that.

My fear is if that becomes the case we will wind up reaching big time for OG and OT and wind up having a draft similar to the "three amigos/gloves" draft where we were drafting and reaching for DBs and none of them wound up lasting on our team.

That is something people need to consider here when saying we can just get OL in the draft.

Do people want to go into the draft with the idea that we are short on not only starters on the Right side of the line but also depth across the board on the line.

Remember we still have no backup center either at this time.

Not something I would care to go into the draft thinking that we need to get a RT, OG, backup center and think we have to get them so we reach.

IF we can get at least one decent OT or OG in FA it would make me feel better about the situation. Now it is early so that still may happen.

Precisely.

 

[dbair1967]

What options? It is so easy to just say anyone can be as good...yet give no examples.

Nobody is saying we are going to go out and get a pro bowler at the position. However we would like to have a little proven exp at the position.

We are not going to get pro bowlers across the board...I think only a handful that live in madden land think that.

So since there are a lot of options, according to you, how about naming a lot of these options now.

Maybe you will change some minds with naming these options.

I think several were listed in the first post of this thread...in addition to those you also have McQ from here...there are alot of draftable guys that could potentially do a decent job...Davis and Columbo have not signed anywhere yet either and either or both are still options here, since both local papers said negotations were going to continue with both

David

 

[MichaelWinicki]

WOW!!!!!!! How can anyone be this articulate this early in the morning beats the heck out of me..........scratching head.

It's easy.

He hasn't gone to sleep.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

It's easy.

He hasn't gone to sleep.

Roy what are you doing.

Sorry...watching Quigley down Under right now.:laugh2:

 

[Cbz40]

It's easy.

He hasn't gone to sleep.

Well....that didn't work for me....

 

[carphalen5150]

If Columbo is looking for 5-6 mil a year I let him walk and take a look at McQuistan. I honestly don't know if he can or cannot play the position, but he created enough positive buzz out of camp and through the season to lead me to believe he is a player. It is not like Pettiti either, the guy is in his 2nd year.

Columbo is nothing more than average at best. He is a little ungrateful too, since the Cowboys gave him a 2 year deal when he was basically a street FA. If he comes back in the 3-4 mil neighborhood, fine, otherwise see ya.

 

[dbair1967]

If Columbo is looking for 5-6 mil a year I let him walk and take a look at McQuistan. I honestly don't know if he can or cannot play the position, but he created enough positive buzz out of campo and through the season to lead me to believe he is a player. It is not like Pettiti either, the guy is in his 2nd year.

Columbo is nothing more than average at best. He is a little ungrateful too, since the Cowboys gave him a 2 year deal when he was basically a street FA. If he comes back in the 3-4 mil neighborhood, fine, otherwise see ya.

agree 110%

David

 

[Alexander]

he created enough positive buzz out of campo

 

[carphalen5150]

*camp*

You should of been able to get that though.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

If Columbo is looking for 5-6 mil a year I let him walk and take a look at McQuistan. I honestly don't know if he can or cannot play the position, but he created enough positive buzz out of campo and through the season to lead me to believe he is a player. It is not like Pettiti either, the guy is in his 2nd year.

Columbo is nothing more than average at best. He is a little ungrateful too, since the Cowboys gave him a 2 year deal when he was basically a street FA. If he comes back in the 3-4 mil neighborhood, fine, otherwise see ya.

Was that some kind of scary slip.:laugh2:

 

[carphalen5150]

Was that some kind of scary slip.:laugh2:

Yeah...hey the p and o are right next to each other.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Yeah...hey the p and o are right next to each other.

Wasn't ragging on you just so you know...just one of those funny slip ups that happen from time to time.

 

[carphalen5150]

Wasn't ragging on you just so you know...just one of those funny slip ups that happen from time to time.

I know you were...you really hurt my feelings.

 

[WoodysGirl]

If Columbo is looking for 5-6 mil a year I let him walk and take a look at McQuistan. I honestly don't know if he can or cannot play the position, but he created enough positive buzz out of camp and through the season to lead me to believe he is a player. It is not like Pettiti either, the guy is in his 2nd year.

Columbo is nothing more than average at best. He is a little ungrateful too, since the Cowboys gave him a 2 year deal when he was basically a street FA. If he comes back in the 3-4 mil neighborhood, fine, otherwise see ya.

Colombo is only average in the minds of fans. Obviously the 'boys wouldn't be working so hard to sign him if he was average.

He doesn't owe the 'boys anything. He did what was asked and now he wants to be rewarded. So while it's easy to get angry at Colombo, no one knows what the 'boys are offering and no one knows what Colombo is asking for.

All these people saying either give him what he's asking for don't even know what he's asking for. If he's wanting a Gurode contract (which looks pretty good now, doesn't it), then I can see why they're far apart.

 

[Stash]

If I saw a list of options available, I might feel better about the current situation.

But I haven't.

So I don't.

As many of us thought, the money is flowing like water, since so many teams have so much to spend.

When Derrick Dockery's getting a 7 year $49 million deal, things are crazy.

Anybody expecting Columbo to go "cheap" are kidding themselves.

Teams have money and players know it.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Well....that didn't work for me....

I can tell...


You're as mean as cat-**** today Pop's!

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I know you were...you really hurt my feelings.

Brain did it on purpose carp...

He told all of us mods that "he was going to get you"-- whatever that meant.