There was a storm brewing on thefan 105.3, romo said i hope to win superbowl in 5 yrs

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skicat1898;2768333 said:
An earlier poster said Aikman had not won a playoff game by this same point in Romo's career..... Romo is going into his 7th season,, by Aikman's 7th he had two Super Bowl rings...

This is why I think the comparisons at this point are really stupid. Romo couldn't beat out the guys ahead of him his first 3 seasons,, nor was he expected to. Aikman started from day one.

And after year 1 many Cowboy fans and writers claimed Steve Walsh should be the starter since he was the QB for the only win in the 89 season.
 

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masomenos85;2768153 said:
It's perfectly fine to compare Romo to Aikman because Troy hadn't won a playoff game at this point in his career either.


Are you serious? I hope for your sake your joking. romo is going into what, his 6th year. By Aikman's 6th year, 2 Super Bowl rings with another coming the following year.

Thank you, case closed.
 

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RedRaiderCowboysFan;2768350 said:
Are you serious? I hope for your sake your joking. romo is going into what, his 6th year. By Aikman's 6th year, 2 Super Bowl rings with another coming the following year.

Thank you, case closed.

I think Troy got some help from the league leading rusher and TD maker in a man by the name of Emmitt Smith. I loved having Troy Aikman but that team offense, defense and special teams were great teams Troy got those rings because a lot of people were playing very good football as a team. I will agree you can't compare Romo to Aikman just as you can't compare Aikman to Staubach or vice versa
 

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Doomsday101;2768339 said:
And after year 1 many Cowboy fans and writers claimed Steve Walsh should be the starter since he was the QB for the only win in the 89 season.

Yes Dooms, and those people were idiots. After year 1 Steve Walsh found himself in Tampa Bay.
 

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skicat1898;2768387 said:
Yes Dooms, and those people were idiots. After year 1 Steve Walsh found himself in Tampa Bay.

Yes those people were idiots because they looked at the present and nothing beyond that. Romo has played in 3 seasons and yet some idiots already have the book closed on him. There are lots of idiots.
 

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Doomsday101;2768375 said:
I think Troy got some help from the league leading rusher and TD maker in a man by the name of Emmitt Smith. I loved having Troy Aikman but that team offense, defense and special teams were great teams Troy got those rings because a lot of people were playing very good football as a team. I will agree you can't compare Romo to Aikman just as you can't compare Aikman to Staubach or vice versa

Aikman performed as he needed to. One could also say that Emmitt got all them yards because if defenses stacked to stop the run, Aikman would carve them to pieces throwing to Irvin.

With Aikman's accuracy, there is no telling what kind of passing numbers he would have put up on a pass happy team... No way to ever know.
 

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Doomsday101;2768393 said:
Yes those people were idiots because they looked at the present and nothing beyond that. Romo has played in 3 seasons and yet some idiots already have the book closed on him. There are lots of idiots.

Dooms, nobody can predict the future. None can say Romo will ever win a playoff game or a Super Bowl,,, nor can anyone say he won't.

I certainly am not one that has closed the book on Romo. He has some problems he has to overcome and if he does, he will be a elite NFL QB. But to be compared to Aikman and Staubach,, he has to win a Super Bowl,,, that is the standard around here.
 

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skicat1898;2768395 said:
Aikman performed as he needed to. One could also say that Emmitt got all them yards because if defenses stacked to stop the run, Aikman would carve them to pieces throwing to Irvin.

With Aikman's accuracy, there is no telling what kind of passing numbers he would have put up on a pass happy team... No way to ever know.

You are right we will not know, Emmitt Smith was a big part of that team when he missed games we did not win. Coming off a the 1st SB win Emmitt sat out in a contract dispute Dallas start 0-2 on the season and Jimmy was in tears at the podium and Haley was so hacked he put his helmet through the wall. Emmitt then returns and we go on to our back to back SB. Having said all that I'm not trying to deminish the importance of Troy I think he was an outstanding QB but like most SB winning QB's they play/played on Great teams. In my book it is always about team. For Romo there are things he needs to improve on but this team has a lot of things they need to improve on, it is not about 1 man it never is
 

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I think Romo's expectations of a 5 year plan is simply naive. The only way Jerry gives anyone that kinda time is if he's at least going to NFC Championship games.

He'd better have a 2 year plan.
 

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skicat1898;2768402 said:
Dooms, nobody can predict the future. None can say Romo will ever win a playoff game or a Super Bowl,,, nor can anyone say he won't.

I certainly am not one that has closed the book on Romo. He has some problems he has to overcome and if he does, he will be a elite NFL QB. But to be compared to Aikman and Staubach,, he has to win a Super Bowl,,, that is the standard around here.

You can't compare the Doomsday Defense that played with Roger or the defense that played with Troy to this current team either. That is what I'm trying to get through Dallas coming up short is not about Romo and winning was not just about Troy or Roger it was about the teams that played as importants of a role as Troy was or Roger there are other HOF players responsible as well for the championship those team got.
 

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cowboyjoe;2768117 said:
I was listeningto thefan and there was a storm brewing over what romo said in an article, romo said, i hope to win a superbowl in 5 years. And some fans are still comparing romo to aikman.

Aikman has won playoff games and superbowls while romo hasnt. till romo wins in playoffs and superbowls, no way romo should be compared to aikman.

you can have all the stats that you want, but stats dont win ball games, its protecting the ball and winning when you have to in big games. Romo hasnt done that yet. Just thought some of your would want to know what they were talking about on thefan. 105.3
WTH?! "hope to win a superbowl in 5 years" ??? What is that?!?

I don't want to hear "hope to win a superbowl in 5 years," I want to hear "I hope to win a superbowl each of the next 5 years!"

Thats' not swagger, that's not gunslinger, that's ...lame. Oh well, as long as he lives a good life, does a Super Bowl win really matter?

pardon my tangent but oy...
 

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Once Romo wins it, all your complaints will evaporate like hot air inside punctured egos. And, it probably won't be long until he does.

:)
 

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Angus;2768442 said:
Once Romo wins it, all your complaints will evaporate like hot air inside punctured egos. And, it probably won't be long until he does.

:)

Are you kidding some of these people are the same ones who were booing Troy Aikman off the field late in his career. :laugh2: They just will not be able to say Romo can't do it.
 

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Angus;2768442 said:
Once Romo wins it, all your complaints will evaporate like hot air inside punctured egos. And, it probably won't be long until he does.

:)
he better!! i've been losing faith...he needs to put somethng together to really get fans/the team really pumped and ready to go. I will GLADLY eat humble pie if he turns things around asap.
 

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Hostile;2768137 said:
Man people get overly touchy about every single comparison.

You can't compare Romo to __________________. You should be shot, dismembered, and then served at a cannibal bbq.

Hey, cannibals gotta have something to eat too.
 

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Doomsday101;2768409 said:
You are right we will not know, Emmitt Smith was a big part of that team when he missed games we did not win. Coming off a the 1st SB win Emmitt sat out in a contract dispute Dallas start 0-2 on the season and Jimmy was in tears at the podium and Haley was so hacked he put his helmet through the wall. Emmitt then returns and we go on to our back to back SB. Having said all that I'm not trying to deminish the importance of Troy I think he was an outstanding QB but like most SB winning QB's they play/played on Great teams. In my book it is always about team. For Romo there are things he needs to improve on but this team has a lot of things they need to improve on, it is not about 1 man it never is


Stats that I saw comparing wins vs missed games for Aikman, Emmett, and Irvin, ended up showing that losing Irvin was worst for the W-L record. Not what I would have thought, but....
 

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NextGenBoys;2768458 said:
Hey, cannibals gotta have something to eat too.

Mmmmm, long pork! Not sure what sauce goes best with that though...
 

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arglebargle;2768493 said:
Stats that I saw comparing wins vs missed games for Aikman, Emmett, and Irvin, ended up showing that losing Irvin was worst for the W-L record. Not what I would have thought, but....

I don't doubt that losing Irvin would be costly as it was losing Emmitt. However what I was trying to get at was it was not about 1 part of the puzzel but the whole thing that allowed that team to win championships. I think too many focus on the 1 postion QB and as important as that position is it has seen it share of avg. QB walk away with rings because in the end it is still all about team.
 

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cowboyjoe;2768146 said:
thats true, its like some players admitted that after romo got hurt, they felt they wouldnt win some games; wrong attitude to have, what it means and should mean to the players that said it, then you as a player have to step up your game and help the cowboys win till romo gets back

thats like in the late 70s and early 80s, ed jones and some other players said they didnt play as hard, because they knew roger would pull them out at the end of the game

i think to a large degree some of the offensive linemen and players think they dont have to play as hard, because romo will pull them out of the end of the game; again wrong attitude to have

that is where the coaches are responsible
 

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Doomsday101;2768375 said:
I think Troy got some help from the league leading rusher and TD maker in a man by the name of Emmitt Smith. I loved having Troy Aikman but that team offense, defense and special teams were great teams Troy got those rings because a lot of people were playing very good football as a team. I will agree you can't compare Romo to Aikman just as you can't compare Aikman to Staubach or vice versa


While its true Aikman and Staubach had great players around them, Aikman was the #1 overall pick to a horrible horrible team. Irvin was coming of an injured ACL, and Emmitt didnt come till after Aikman was abused for a year. They developed into the triplets together.

romo on the other hand, being a free agent from division 2 sat on the bench for 3 and a half seasons, and when he finally played, had a loaded team built around him. The OLine played great for a couple of years giving him all day to throw to a wide open TO. A more fair question would be, how would someone like Quincy Carter have looked on this team the last couple of seasons, compared to romo playing when Quincy was playing with guys Troy Hambrick, Dan Campbell, etc. As bad as Quincy was, they somehow got to the playoffs, whose to say with the talent this team has had the last few seasons that they wouldnt have won a playoff game. I highly doubt they would have with Quincy, but if romo couldnt win with this team over the last couple of years, its doubtful he will now or ever.

Cant say for sure just like nobody can say he will win a Super Bowl, and those who say just watch are just throwing feces on the wall and hoping it sticks so they can say they were right. And if they turn out to be wrong, they will go to extremes to say it was everyone else fault but romo why this team didnt win.
 
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