They cannot make the Lamb mistake again

[LACowboysFan1]

That's what you think and that's what I think but what do you think Booger thinks? He cannot have enough weapons.

I will say this about Pitts, he could be that generational talent we're always talking about. His problem at FL was the same as OJ Howard's at Bama, too many targets.

Of course we all know Jerry loves flash, hopefully Stephen and McClay can control him...

 

[CouchCoach]

Dallas did address needs on defense hell 5 of the 7 picks were defense. I can promise you that Dallas will not be able to fill every need in this draft and will look to mid range FA to help fill voids then again that is what most teams have to do.

That is a given and if they'd picked Chaisson, there's a strong probability they're not further along on the D side.

Like I said when they did this, the best thing is the option this gives them with Cooper or Gallup down the line, if they use it. I think we think ahead more than they do.

 

[Doomsday101]

There's something to be said for trading out for multiple picks in 22 because of the one time NCAA rule of allowing all players an extra year.

If drafting is all about the future, then the future should be considered. The Dolphins ended up with the 3rd pick doing that with a player.

I have no issue with trading out of the 10 spot to get additional picks but then of course it all depends on who is still on the board and more important which if any team is looking to move up to the spot.

 

[CouchCoach]

Of course we all know Jerry loves flash, hopefully Stephen and McClay can control him...

When have you seen that happen except for Manziel?

 

[Carson]

So how do you get "capital" on defense when you use your no. 17 pick on offense and don't have another pick until 51?

Just asking...

Not just the draft. Free agency. Signing McCoy who was already injured. Signing Poe who was on the downside of his career plus injured. Not giving HaHa a chance and rolling with Darian Thompson.

Those guys are depth pieces for a solid defense. They are asking average players to change this defense from bad to good.

 

[Doomsday101]

That is a given and if they'd picked Chaisson, there's a strong probability they're not further along on the D side.

Like I said when they did this, the best thing is the option this gives them with Cooper or Gallup down the line, if they use it. I think we think ahead more than they do.

Chaisson did not do much, and frankly with DLaw, Gregory, Aldon Smith and Armstrong DE is not an area I would consider great need. Dallas weakness is DT not DE

 

[Doomsday101]

Not just the draft. Free agency. Signing McCoy who was already injured. Signing Poe who was on the downside of his career plus injured. Not giving HaHa a chance and rolling with Darian Thompson.

Those guys are depth pieces for a solid defense. They are asking average players to change this defense from bad to good.

I was very happy with the way Donovan Wilson came along at safety and feel he does have a bright future with the Cowboys. I do agree that McCoy and Poe failing hurt this team because we have little to work with at DT

 

[CouchCoach]

Not just the draft. Free agency. Signing McCoy who was already injured. Signing Poe who was on the downside of his career. Not giving HaHa a chance and rolling with Darian Thompson.

With the Cowboys and FA, you must always ask "who else wants these players"? They're very poor FA players. They feed on the bottom for players with down arrows.

However, they've proven to be good traders for players, Cooper, Quinn, so what if they could trade for a day 1 starter on D that another team might have trouble signing?

 

[CouchCoach]

Chaisson did not do much, and frankly with DLaw, Gregory, Aldon Smith and Armstrong DE is not an area I would consider great need. Dallas weakness is DT not DE

Agree completely about DE but not that the weakness is just at DT, unless you're talking strictly about DL. The Cowboys need 6 of the back 7, if Vander Esch can't get 100% healthy.

What should really concern us is the owner calling Jaylon Smith the cornerstone of his D but then again, look at this D. Booger said that like it was a compliment. How would you like to be the cornerstone of the worst run D in the NFL and worst D in your team's history? Somehow, seems to fit with this owner and team.

 

[CouchCoach]

I was very happy with the way Donovan Wilson came along at safety and feel he does have a bright future with the Cowboys. I do agree that McCoy and Poe failing hurt this team because we have little to work with at DT

They depended on players in decline and not even in their own shadow, that's the importance they place on the middle of the D.

That moron never learned from how Landry built his D, Johnson and Parcells attention to that middle of the DL. Parcells brought in the best FA the team ever acquired at a much needed position. Jimmy spent the 1st pick on a DT.

Building a stout D takes discipline with strict adherence to the plan. I don't think the Cowboys even have a plan. They devise one at the end of every season.

 

[Doomsday101]

Agree completely about DE but not that the weakness is just at DT, unless you're talking strictly about DL. The Cowboys need 6 of the back 7, if Vander Esch can't get 100% healthy.

What should really concern us is the owner calling Jaylon Smith the cornerstone of his D but then again, look at this D. Booger said that like it was a compliment. How would you like to be the cornerstone of the worst run D in the NFL and worst D in your team's history? Somehow, seems to fit with this owner and team.

DT is my big concern with the defense, I think if you can get a stud in the middle to shut down the run. Failing in run defense put a lot of pressure on the entire defense, having to bring up safety to try and slow down the run now exposes the secondary. Hell that is why Dallas has had success in the past by running the ball and forcing teams to bring up extra men which in turn opens up spaces in the secondary. Teams avg 7.5 yards a play keeping themselves in 2nd and short makes it hard to play defense including the pressure in puts on the secondary.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

Jerry wants a first round 88 Jerry gets a first round 88. Don't you know how this works yet?

It’s funny that we gave his grandson the nickname of “Spaulding”, but I can’t help but see Jerry as the bratty rich kid in Caddyshack.

“I want a hamburger...no, a cheeseburger. I want French fries, I want a milkshake, I want an 88, I want a project player, I want a....”

 

[Diehardblues]

With all due respect, you should strip yourself of posting privileges. Its one thing to say this before the season starts but now you have the benefit of a season of actual facts. Can you name a defender who was taken in that range that did much of anything? Drafting for need over talent is what gets you Taco. At the very least, CD is an asset that has trade value whereas a bust has none. If there had been an equal defender available, sure. But there wasn't. Not even close. Those are just the facts.

Many of us before the season argued Lamb was a luxury pick we couldn’t afford screaming for defensive help in 1st round.

 

[Doomsday101]

They depended on players in decline and not even in their own shadow, that's the importance they place on the middle of the D.

That moron never learned from how Landry built his D, Johnson and Parcells attention to that middle of the DL. Parcells brought in the best FA the team ever acquired at a much needed position. Jimmy spent the 1st pick on a DT.

Building a stout D takes discipline with strict adherence to the plan. I don't think the Cowboys even have a plan. They devise one at the end of every season.

Come on Landry did not have to deal with FA where you are constantly trying to fill voids. When Tom was here you brought in players who many would spend their entire career in Dallas. I'm all for building up the defense, we can't have teams rushing for over 300 yards but I also know with how the rules of the game are you better have the ability to put up points as well. What gets me is Jerry was called a moron because of the OL and then Dallas went out and built a OL but now he is a moron because the DL. Yet we have drafted guys along the DL, how many years was Gregory wasted?

 

[KDM256]

End result I am not against the Lamb selection last year but the player I wanted personally was Patrick Queen. he was the best linebacker coming out of college and Dallas needed help at this position as oppose to WR.

Queen had his ups and downs this rookie season, just like Lamb but LB was a crucial position Dallas needed to address last year with the uncertainty of LVE, Snake.

If anyone follows college football you would've known that WRs are an abundance these past 2 draft classes. Elite linebackers are not

 

[speedkilz88]

It doesn't matter who you put out at LB if your DTs are crap. They don't need high pick LBs.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Not just the draft. Free agency. Signing McCoy who was already injured. Signing Poe who was on the downside of his career plus injured. Not giving HaHa a chance and rolling with Darian Thompson.

Those guys are depth pieces for a solid defense. They are asking average players to change this defense from bad to good.

Sadly the history of Jerry's teams is that they haven't a clue how to get free agents, lucked into Haley and a couple more, but most were wasted pickups...

 

[CouchCoach]

DT is my big concern with the defense, I think if you can get a stud in the middle to shut down the run. Failing in run defense put a lot of pressure on the entire defense, having to bring up safety to try and slow down the run now exposes the secondary. Hell that is why Dallas has had success in the past by running the ball and forcing teams to bring up extra men which in turn opens up spaces in the secondary. Teams avg 7.5 yards a play keeping themselves in 2nd and short makes it hard to play defense including the pressure in puts on the secondary.

DT isn't a sexy pick to Booger and that's a load that they would have taken Donald, if they had the chance.

Booger wants a flashy team and honestly, I can't fault him for that for America's Team, it is a business first. He wants excitement and scoring because that's what those fans want. You can bet there were a lot of fans more focused on the stats Prescott was putting up than the 1-3 record.

I can tell you from my personal experience that Cowboys fans are the oddest ducks I've ever encountered. Too many Cowboys fans are not demanding. You think they're going to show up like Lions and Saints fans with sacks on their heads?

This site is not a microcosm of the real fandom. And how many do you see here complain right along with everyone else and then talk about the game they're attending and some are flying in for that? As fans, we get just what we're willing to accept.

I can also say that I would have been hard pressed to find a fan attending a game to agree with me about picking Lamb. He was also not a stranger to Cowboys fans or DFW.

In the entertainment part of the game that Booger does understand so well, Lamb was a home run.

 

[Doomsday101]

DT isn't a sexy pick to Booger and that's a load that they would have taken Donald, if they had the chance.

Booger wants a flashy team and honestly, I can't fault him for that for America's Team, it is a business first. He wants excitement and scoring because that's what those fans want. You can bet there were a lot of fans more focused on the stats Prescott was putting up than the 1-3 record.

I can tell you from my personal experience that Cowboys fans are the oddest ducks I've ever encountered. Too many Cowboys fans are not demanding. You think they're going to show up like Lions and Saints fans with sacks on their heads?

This site is not a microcosm of the real fandom. And how many do you see here complain right along with everyone else and then talk about the game they're attending and some are flying in for that? As fans, we get just what we're willing to accept.

I can also say that I would have been hard pressed to find a fan attending a game to agree with me about picking Lamb. He was also not a stranger to Cowboys fans or DFW.

In the entertainment part of the game that Booger does understand so well, Lamb was a home run.

I don't think OL is a sexy pick but we managed to use 3 1st rd picks in recent years on OL. I don't think Lamb was picked because it was a sexy pick I think he was selected because of how highly he was ranked on their board and when they saw him there at 17 they went with the highest rated player on their board. Honestly I think defense was on their mind last season, as I said 5 of the 7 picks were all defense including our 2nd and 3rd rd picks. However when you see a guy rated as highly as Lamb was Dallas was not going to pass it up.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

End result I am not against the Lamb selection last year but the player I wanted personally was Patrick Queen. he was the best linebacker coming out of college and Dallas needed help at this position as oppose to WR.

Queen had his ups and downs this rookie season, just like Lamb but LB was a crucial position Dallas needed to address last year with the uncertainty of LVE, Snake.

If anyone follows college football you would've known that WRs are an abundance these past 2 draft classes. Elite linebackers are not

Agreed, mainly because, at least to me, linebacker is the most difficult position, physically, to play well. Just think - you have to be big enough to handle the running backs like Zeke and Henry, 225 or more pounds, yet fast enough to chase the smaller, faster running backs. Have to take on 300-plus pound linemen, try to sack quarterbacks like Rothlisbergher who are as big as you are. Smart enough to be able to read defenses and often call the defense set up.

Great linebackers are hard to find...