Things That Are Smarter Than Jason Garrett

Asklesko;3003855 said:
That was such a sad day for Cowboys football. To have the starting quarterback, in whom was glimpsed such promise, kicked off the team just before the season and then to be stuck with Vinny Testaverde. What a disaster was 2004.

Such promise?

Are you kidding me?

Go take a look at the numbers, Carter was Testeverde.
 
Hoofbite;3004133 said:
Such promise?

Are you kidding me?

Go take a look at the numbers, Carter was Testeverde.
Naw, Testaverde could squat more weight.
 
Hostile;3004138 said:
Naw, Testaverde could squat more weight.

True. But he did have 2 decades of NFL weight training to lean on.
 
Hoofbite;3004140 said:
True. But he did have 2 decades of NFL weight training to lean on.
Then explain to me Brad Johnson's noodle arm.
 
Hostile;3003840 said:
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ah yeah, because YOU thought of that! ;)
 
Joe Realist;3004144 said:
ah yeah, because YOU thought of that! ;)
I actually had not seen yours in the other thread when I posted that. Honest.
 
rcaldw;3004116 said:
Jason Garrett was the offensive coordinator, period. If you want it to be accurate, post his 2007 also. If it doesn't measure up, it doesn't. I have no problem with that. But you cant just arbitrarily decide that he wasn't the OC when, in fact, he was.

Hey rcaldw, I'm the guy that posted the "dishonest" stats.

I'm with bysboxw (?), which is why I said "solo OC" in those stats.

Sparano had huge input, probably disproportionate input, into game planning, schemes, down and distance that week, etc.. I probably read every story on this topic ever written back then to see who did what in 2007 ... this is what I read, not what I dreamt up ...

Sparano was a very hard worker all I could gather, and the offense all things considered, was probably more Sparano's than Garrett's in 2007. At least a partial carryover from Parcells philosophies was what we saw in 2007.

Did Garrett have the plays in his hand and call them on game day? I think so ... but the plays in his hand that week were in a good part influenced, picked out that week, designed by Sparano.

Hey, and he was a good OL coach, too!
 
rcaldw;3004116 said:
Jason Garrett was the offensive coordinator, period. If you want it to be accurate, post his 2007 also. If it doesn't measure up, it doesn't. I have no problem with that. But you cant just arbitrarily decide that he wasn't the OC when, in fact, he was.

But you can't deny that Jason Garrett had help in 2007 . . . a lot of help. Garrett was really Offensive Coordinator in name only. We took him from Miami in 2007 while he was QB coach there. He was under contract, and the only way he could come here was if he got a promotion. So they made him OC and made Sparano Assistant Head Coach. Garrett called the plays, but that was Sparano's offense (and a lot of Parcell's leftover philosophies). It was talked about ad nauseum here.

But just for kicks, let's add Garrett's 2007 stats:

igtmfo;3003905 said:
1995 21st points, 25th yards
1996 9th points, 4th yards
1997 19th points, 5th yards

Holmgren as OC in SF:
1989 1st points, 1st yards
1990 8th points, 2nd yards
1991 3rd points, 3rd yards

Garrett as solo OC in Dallas:
2007 2nd points, 2nd yards
2008 18th points, 13th yards
2009 11th points, 4th yards so far

Holmgrens stats still blows Garrett's out of the water. And considering the talent Gruden had to work with in Philly during those 3 years his stats are very respectable . . . I mean Philly was suiting up Randall Cunningham, Rodney Peete, Ty Detmer, Boby Hoying, and an aged Mark Rypien for QB while Gruden was OC.
 

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