This goes down as Dallas best draft in history

[Eddie]

Our issues in recent drafts have not been in the 1st round. The reason why we can only win a single playoff game with all these 1st round Pro Bowlers is because of our inability to land consistent players past the 1st round. I'm not sure we did our due diligence past round 1.

I'm ok with Elliott. Hopefully, he'll be another 1st round Pro Bowler. Can't complain about that. But I have no clue we helped ourselves the rest of the draft.

 

[lostar2009]

Just wow... Heck 2005 was pretty good.. Ware, Spears, Burnett, MB3, Ratliff...short memories.

That was pretty much our frame work for our D back then.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

You go red-coat while I was gone? For shame...
For shame!

I already broke out a Walter Kronkite jpg since I've been back and you've gone Benedict Arnold?
WTH is going on around here?!

If you are referring to that ruffian, incoherent, English-mangling original Gimme you can have him.
He's on his way back to Farmers Branch, in a Grayhound bus eating (I am sure) filling-station sandwiches and those energy drinks.
I am soon vacating the premises (condemned twice) and burning the couch in the backyard.

 

[Sarge]

I must have watched a different draft.

 

[Satchel89]

No it's not. Far from it. They took a guy in the 2nd round who won't play this year. This team struggles with picking players in this round. Jerry said he missed out on Lynch. That's who he obviously wanted. I don't know if Lynch is the answer but if he wanted him, He should of got him. He's given up a bunch before to get a player, So it shouldn't of stopped him this time. And does Prescott really excite anybody? I'm not saying he's a bad player but I just don't see a franchise QB. Then they take another running back in the 6th. I don't get it and then you follow that up with a basketball player. And I understand that he might end up being a good player but I thought this draft was about helping Romo win now. I like Zeke, Tapper, and Brown but this draft should of been better.

 

[fortdick]

You go red-coat while I was gone? For shame...
For shame!

I already broke out a Walter Kronkite jpg since I've been back and you've gone Benedict Arnold?
WTH is going on around here?!

In the long run, I am going to say Smith will be a bigger asset than Elliott.

 

[Wood]

Ok, we've decided that this may not be the best draft ever, now let's move past that point and go back to the injury thing. OP, if you don't mind, can you give any insight to a realistic expectation of Jaylon Smith either for this year or his future. You stated you are in the medical field, any insight would be awesome or can you direct me to a website that would be a non-biased, information gathering medical site.

sure. What I expect is Jaylon Smith to continue core exercises until they wait for nerve to fully engage again (some refer to this as nerve waking up). He is back to his pre-injury weight. He does not have full lateral movement of left foot (flexing of the left foot outward toward your head). From the videos I have seen Jaylon does not appear to be dragging the foot at all.

If we look at video from his injury: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14480100. We see the stretching of the nerve (which caused it to sleep) was caused from hyperextension of knee from the shove in back from #68. Fortunately the nerve was only stretched and not elongated. Its important to note the nerve is structurally intact and is not damaged but merely not transmitting due to an excessive stretch. The waking up of nerve could happen at anytime. He could wake up tomorrow and be fully functional or it can continue its current pace of 1" month (area asleep is 6" in length).

As for what I expect for his recovery is difficult to say because there really isn't another exact case. Lattimore injury was different and resulted from direct trauma from impact of helmet. If Jaylon progress continues at its current pace he will be 100% cleared by next off-season. Now lets not kid ourselves this was very serious injury. But what he has going for him is he is young and appears to be athletic freak so I would not be surprised if his body responds and he gets back to 80-90% of what he was pre-injury. The keys areas I listed previously is does he have pain running and cutting. If he does it will be shortened career. The other area is his burst. Its really what makes him special. During Marinelli interview he talked about how he went to ND last year as favor for OL coach who he worked with in Chicago. He was watching a play when blur went by him and he really hadn't seen such explosiveness from player before like that. It was Jaylon Smith. Even if some of that burst is gone I still think he can starter because he had such an excessive amount. In summary, I think we are looking at definite starter who has potential to be pro-bowl even HOF if he is pain free and pre-injury explosiveness remains.

 

[jnday]

You must be young.

The Cowboys have had drafts that contributed to Super Bowl teams. We'll have to wait and see whether these three contribute to us and Super Bowls.

I think the age of some of these posters is the reason for so much arguing. Younger fans think Cowboys history started with Jerry. They have no ideal just how good this whole organization was in the Landry years. I am not referring to the OP, but some of the younger fans are so arrogant , that they think they are right about everything. I guess the generational gap is rather large at times.

 

[jnday]

sure. What I expect is Jaylon Smith to continue core exercises until they wait for nerve to fully engage again (some refer to this as nerve waking up). He is back to his pre-injury weight. He does not have full lateral movement of left foot (flexing of the left foot outward toward your head). From the videos I have seen Jaylon does not appear to be dragging the foot at all.

If we look at video from his injury: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14480100. We see the stretching of the nerve (which caused it to sleep) was caused from hyperextension of knee from the shove in back from #68. Fortunately the nerve was only stretched and not elongated. Its important to note the nerve is structurally intact and is not damaged but merely not transmitting due to an excessive stretch. The waking up of nerve could happen at anytime. He could wake up tomorrow and be fully functional or it can continue its current pace of 1" month (area asleep is 6" in length).

As for what I expect for his recovery is difficult to say because there really isn't another exact case. Lattimore injury was different and resulted from direct trauma from impact of helmet. If Jaylon progress continues at its current pace he will be 100% cleared by next off-season. Now lets not kid ourselves this was very serious injury. But what he has going for him is he is young and appears to be athletic freak so I would not be surprised if his body responds and he gets back to 80-90% of what he was pre-injury. The keys areas I listed previously is does he have pain running and cutting. If he does it will be shortened career. The other area is his burst. Its really what makes him special. During Marinelli interview he talked about how he went to ND last year as favor for OL coach who he worked with in Chicago. He was watching a play when blur went by him and he really hadn't seen such explosiveness from player before like that. It was Jaylon Smith. Even if some of that burst is gone I still think he can starter because he had such an excessive amount. In summary, I think we are looking at definite starter who has potential to be pro-bowl even HOF if he is pain free and pre-injury explosiveness remains.

There is no way of knowing if the nerve will fully recover. I had a nerve in my leg that was numb from an injury and it still gives me problems years after I had surgery. He could easily have burning , tingling , of numbness for the rest of his life. I hope not, but I know that I have two nerves ( one in leg/foot and the other in my arm) that have gave me problems for many years. It is a wait and see situation now.

 

[LittleD]

No it's not. Far from it. They took a guy in the 2nd round who won't play this year. This team struggles with picking players in this round. Jerry said he missed out on Lynch. That's who he obviously wanted. I don't know if Lynch is the answer but if he wanted him, He should of got him. He's given up a bunch before to get a player, So it shouldn't of stopped him this time. And does Prescott really excite anybody? I'm not saying he's a bad player but I just don't see a franchise QB. Then they take another running back in the 6th. I don't get it and then you follow that up with a basketball player. And I understand that he might end up being a good player but I thought this draft was about helping Romo win now. I like Zeke, Tapper, and Brown but this draft should of been better.

Okay, you had your say now it's time for a nap and while your at it, take a Prozac so you can relax.

 

[TheCount]

I think the age of some of these posters is the reason for so much arguing. Younger fans think Cowboys history started with Jerry. They have no ideal just how good this whole organization was in the Landry years. I am not referring to the OP, but some of the younger fans are so arrogant , that they think they are right about everything. I guess the generational gap is rather large at times.

I'm not young, and I get it, but I already find it exasperating when people go back to the 90's to talk about how great that team was compared to today's team, much less the Landry years.

It's ancient history.

 

[rwalters31]

First let me say draft show was absolutely correct in saying this draft was run by GM who had 100% job security. It means Jerry swung for the fences without hesitation that his job was on line. Now lets get into why I think this draft will rank in tops all-time for Dallas. It comes down to three players:

1. Elliot- how can you not like this pick. Character player with plus talent in all facets of position. Possibly extends Romo career if he can truly keep pocket clean and can pick up bunch of 3rd downs (usually when teams blitz & hit Romo). Below are my projections for his 1st three years:

2016: 1,200 yards 12 TDs
2017: 1,600 yards 17 TDs
2018: 1,800 yards 16 TDs

2. Jaylon Smith - I am fascinated by this pick not only because I work in healthcare field and will closely follow his rehab but I think he was top 3 player pre-injury. Previously I posted his leg press, squad #s and it looks positive. I really have little doubt the nerve wakes-up and transmits fully but this will come down to two things: 1) can he play pain free and 2) is explosiveness still there. If answer is yes & yes then start pouring concrete footings for Jerry new statue because he will be getting his 2nd GM of Year award.

As far as his rehab I would follow what Sixers are doing with Joel Embid and hire group of people who are tasked with structuring every area for him (nutrition, sleep, rehab, etc). I would even send him to Aspetar in Qatar where they have world renowned sports science facility for sports related injuries. They also have other athletes rehabbing and its great way to keep athletes upbeat.

3. Dak Prescott - an intangible monster he demonstrated leadership qualities, the ability to move around in pocket and improved his pure passing numbers in 2015. Unlike Stephan McGee (who was benched his final year) Presscott arrow is pointing up and he comes into Dallas with momentum. If Dallas gets a starter here that alone can make this draft.

This draft also has the potential of being a severe bust if Elliot is another Trent Richardson, Smith is another Marcus Lattimore and Prescott has McGee career. But I feel Dallas is playoff team (pre-draft) who attempted a Steven Curry 50 foot shot at buzzer for the win.

Zeke is the only one that has any meaning at this time. The other two may never have a meaningful down in Dallas. The rest of the draft picks look at this time to be camp folder or back ups. Wait till the 6th game before making that statement one way or the other.

 

[jnday]

I'm not young, and I get it, but I already find it exasperating when people go back to the 90's to talk about how great that team was compared to today's team, much less the Landry years.

It's ancient history.

In this case, I wish history would repeat itself and they would win some Shper Bowls. There is much we can learn from history. That is why it kills me to see this team make the same mistakes that have been made in the past. I can understand that these younger fans don't know the team's history, but they should respect it, even if they don't want I know about it.

 

[Satchel89]

Okay, you had your say now it's time for a nap and while your at it, take a Prozac so you can relax.

I don't think what I said was crazy, Maybe it was to you but I disagreed with it being the best draft of all-time. That was ridiculous to me

 

[Manster68]

First let me say draft show was absolutely correct in saying this draft was run by GM who had 100% job security. It means Jerry swung for the fences without hesitation that his job was on line. Now lets get into why I think this draft will rank in tops all-time for Dallas. It comes down to three players:

1. Elliot- how can you not like this pick. Character player with plus talent in all facets of position. Possibly extends Romo career if he can truly keep pocket clean and can pick up bunch of 3rd downs (usually when teams blitz & hit Romo). Below are my projections for his 1st three years:

2016: 1,200 yards 12 TDs
2017: 1,600 yards 17 TDs
2018: 1,800 yards 16 TDs

2. Jaylon Smith - I am fascinated by this pick not only because I work in healthcare field and will closely follow his rehab but I think he was top 3 player pre-injury. Previously I posted his leg press, squad #s and it looks positive. I really have little doubt the nerve wakes-up and transmits fully but this will come down to two things: 1) can he play pain free and 2) is explosiveness still there. If answer is yes & yes then start pouring concrete footings for Jerry new statue because he will be getting his 2nd GM of Year award.

As far as his rehab I would follow what Sixers are doing with Joel Embid and hire group of people who are tasked with structuring every area for him (nutrition, sleep, rehab, etc). I would even send him to Aspetar in Qatar where they have world renowned sports science facility for sports related injuries. They also have other athletes rehabbing and its great way to keep athletes upbeat.

3. Dak Prescott - an intangible monster he demonstrated leadership qualities, the ability to move around in pocket and improved his pure passing numbers in 2015. Unlike Stephan McGee (who was benched his final year) Presscott arrow is pointing up and he comes into Dallas with momentum. If Dallas gets a starter here that alone can make this draft.

This draft also has the potential of being a severe bust if Elliot is another Trent Richardson, Smith is another Marcus Lattimore and Prescott has McGee career. But I feel Dallas is playoff team (pre-draft) who attempted a Steven Curry 50 foot shot at buzzer for the win.

Am I geeked about this draft? Sure I am - and moreso than in previous years. It is very rare when the Cowboys get a top 5 pick. I think the Cowboys took the best possible advantage of that. I did not want them selling the farm like Philly and LA did to grab a QB not rated higher than Winston and Mariota. The fate of this draft hinges on the 2nd round pick.

However, I was just as geeked about the 2002 draft as much as this draft. I thought the Cowboys grabbed 4 studs in Roy Williams, Andre Gurode, Antonio Bryant and Derek Ross. The first two selections paid off with FIVE Pro Bowls apiece. Unfortunately, Bryant and Walter had ten cent heads. Jamar Martin, Pete Hunter, and Tyson Walter were JAGs.

I would love it if 8 of those draftees make the roster and Jaylen Smith goes to the IR.

 

[Manster68]

1975, 1964, 1991, 2005, and 1989 are Dallas' top drafts IMO.

 

[Spectre]

First let me say draft show was absolutely correct in saying this draft was run by GM who had 100% job security. It means Jerry swung for the fences without hesitation that his job was on line. Now lets get into why I think this draft will rank in tops all-time for Dallas. It comes down to three players:

1. Elliot- how can you not like this pick. Character player with plus talent in all facets of position. Possibly extends Romo career if he can truly keep pocket clean and can pick up bunch of 3rd downs (usually when teams blitz & hit Romo). Below are my projections for his 1st three years:

2016: 1,200 yards 12 TDs
2017: 1,600 yards 17 TDs
2018: 1,800 yards 16 TDs

2. Jaylon Smith - I am fascinated by this pick not only because I work in healthcare field and will closely follow his rehab but I think he was top 3 player pre-injury. Previously I posted his leg press, squad #s and it looks positive. I really have little doubt the nerve wakes-up and transmits fully but this will come down to two things: 1) can he play pain free and 2) is explosiveness still there. If answer is yes & yes then start pouring concrete footings for Jerry new statue because he will be getting his 2nd GM of Year award.

As far as his rehab I would follow what Sixers are doing with Joel Embid and hire group of people who are tasked with structuring every area for him (nutrition, sleep, rehab, etc). I would even send him to Aspetar in Qatar where they have world renowned sports science facility for sports related injuries. They also have other athletes rehabbing and its great way to keep athletes upbeat.

3. Dak Prescott - an intangible monster he demonstrated leadership qualities, the ability to move around in pocket and improved his pure passing numbers in 2015. Unlike Stephan McGee (who was benched his final year) Presscott arrow is pointing up and he comes into Dallas with momentum. If Dallas gets a starter here that alone can make this draft.

This draft also has the potential of being a severe bust if Elliot is another Trent Richardson, Smith is another Marcus Lattimore and Prescott has McGee career. But I feel Dallas is playoff team (pre-draft) who attempted a Steven Curry 50 foot shot at buzzer for the win.

Why would anyone- particularly a wealthy American pro athlete- go to Qatar for rehab?

P.S. I think Elliott and Prescott go down as magnificient selections from this draft. Everyone else we drafted is forgotten.

 

[LittleD]

I don't think what I said was crazy, Maybe it was to you but I disagreed with it being the best draft of all-time. That was ridiculous to me

It's pointless to make any observation right after the draft. Everything is pure conjecture. You won't know how good a draft is
for at least 3 years. That was my point. No one, including the pundits and draftniks can't predict the grade of a draft until
some significant time has passed.

 

[Joe Realist]

I agree. Super Bowl wins 3 years in a row!!!

 

[Joe Realist]

2017 we will draft a hockey player with a high motor and technique, eh?