This is a football move and yesterday's wasn't? - Same play

[Everson24]

This happened in this years game against the Giants game at AT&T Stadium. It was ruled a catch and no controversy followed about it after the game. Let's face it. Dez got robbed.

 

[canters]

Water under a bridge, but I agree that in watching the replay, the rule makes no sense. Common sense says it was a catch. If he had broken the plane of the goal line, it was a TD.

 

[CoCo]

Sorry. Same area code, but they are not at all the same thing. I wish it were that simple.

 

[Miller]

HUGE difference in plays. In that one Dez catches it, runs and literally springs forward to stretch it out. Rewatch yesterdays again and be honest without being a Cowboy fan and I can see it being him just falling to the ground

 

[CoCo]

Water under a bridge, but I agree that in watching the replay, the rule makes no sense. Common sense says it was a catch. If he had broken the plane of the goal line, it was a TD.

Common sense was what should have been applied when the rule was written. Now, it's simply too late.

And breaking the plane would not have changed this ruling. Calvin's play was right in the middle of the end zone. Its the definition of a catch per the written rule and the judgment of whether or not Dez made a football move (or was simply falling down), that are the critical issues here.

And the other, IMO, is the clear visual evidence (wherever it may be) of the ball in contact with the ground at a time when Dez was not in control of it.

 

[CoCo]

HUGE difference in plays. In that one Dez catches it, runs and literally springs forward to stretch it out. Rewatch yesterdays again and be honest without being a Cowboy fan and I can see it being him just falling to the ground

I can honestly see it both ways. And for that reason I think the ruling on the field should have stood. Though I also want to see the clear visual evidence of the ball touching the ground without it being in Dez control. If either of these issues are true (possible football move or the bobble was never when the ball was touching the ground) it should be ruled a catch.

 

[links18]

I can honestly see it both ways. And for that reason I think the ruling on the field should have stood. Though I also want to see the clear visual evidence of the ball touching the ground without it being in Dez control. If either of these issues are true (possible football move or the bobble was never when the ball was touching the ground) it should be ruled a catch.

What part of "indisputable evidence" does the NFL not get?

 

[Derinyar]

The problem is the NFL defense of it seems to be "He didn't stretch out enough". That's a pretty pathetic thing to base a game changing over turn on. Pretty sure it doesn't meet their criteria for over turning on replay.

 

[lostar2009]

You know I think we just need to leave this call alone. Its not going to do us any good, It is what it is. We could have blown GB out but we didnt and that is what I have a harder time to deal with instead of that one play. We left too much on the field to be stuck on one play. Lets not be like Detroit and lets move pass this without prejuidce.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

We got robbed. #cowboyszone got robbed......

i feel cheated. For the first time in my life , I am questioning the NFL. It has slowly gone down hill under Goodell....

 

[links18]

You know I think we just need to leave this call alone. Its not going to do us any good, It is what it is. We could have blown GB out but we didnt and that is what I have a harder time to deal with instead of that one play. We left too much on the field to be stuck on one play. Lets not be like Detroit and lets move pass this without prejuidce.

Uh, no? At least not right now. Get back to me the cumbaya stuff in April or something.

 

[Miller]

I can honestly see it both ways. And for that reason I think the ruling on the field should have stood. Though I also want to see the clear visual evidence of the ball touching the ground without it being in Dez control. If either of these issues are true (possible football move or the bobble was never when the ball was touching the ground) it should be ruled a catch.

Yesterday I was screaming that it was a football move and shouldn't be overturned but again the more I look at it I don't see his last move as a move but just the act of going down. As far as hitting the ground its obvious it hit the ground. The ball hit sideways on turf and popped up

 

[blindzebra]

Yesterday I was screaming that it was a football move and shouldn't be overturned but again the more I look at it I don't see his last move as a move but just the act of going down. As far as hitting the ground its obvious it hit the ground. The ball hit sideways on turf and popped up

Watch his left leg and only his left leg. His knee goes from bent to straight, his left foot digs in and pushes off. You don't do that if you are falling.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Yesterday I was screaming that it was a football move and shouldn't be overturned but again the more I look at it I don't see his last move as a move but just the act of going down. As far as hitting the ground its obvious it hit the ground. The ball hit sideways on turf and popped up

I guess taking steps forward and reaching for the endzone is not an act common to the game of football.

Had it in two hands and clearly shifted it to this left.

The ball never moves until he contacts the ground during his lunge.

Anyone who saw that play and doesn't think it's a catch I wonder if they ever played football.

Just disappointing.

 

[DogFace]

I can honestly see it both ways. And for that reason I think the ruling on the field should have stood. Though I also want to see the clear visual evidence of the ball touching the ground without it being in Dez control. If either of these issues are true (possible football move or the bobble was never when the ball was touching the ground) it should be ruled a catch.

You're right that's the key. It hit the ground. He had control.

 

[Miller]

I guess taking steps forward and reaching for the endzone is not an act common to the game of football.

Had it in two hands and clearly shifted it to this left.

The ball never moves until he contacts the ground during his lunge.

Anyone who saw that play and doesn't think it's a catch I wonder if they ever played football.

Just disappointing.

I played football and that is a really weak comeback by the way. Desperation.

There are a lot of people out there who don't think its a catch. Cris Carter was just one saying the rule was followed right. I just like being objective vs. ranting because my team lost. You call it a shift to one hand and I just call it the act of catching the ball while falling. Look at the top video from the OP and the video from yesterday and you will see a CLEAR lunge vs falling forward.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I played football and that is a really weak comeback by the way. Desperation.

There are a lot of people out there who don't think its a catch. Cris Carter was just one saying the rule was followed right. I just like being objective vs. ranting because my team lost. You call it a **** to one hand and I just call it the act of catching the ball while falling. Look at the top video from the OP and the video from yesterday and you will see a CLEAR lunge vs falling forward.

Again.

The play passed the eye test. Everyone saw it was a catch. It was ruled a catch on the field. Dez clearly made a move to get into the endzone. The ball never moved until it hit the ground. I'm not sure what to tell you.

The play shifted our win expectancy by 40 percentage points. The fact people are still talking about it today shows that nothing is irrefutable about the play and it should have stood as called.

And i'm not desperate for anything. Nothing I say now changes that we lost the game. Upset? Sad? Bitter? Yes. Yes. Yes.

Desperate? Nope.

 

[WV Cowboy]

The more I watch it, the madder I get. That is a catch, .. no that is a great catch!

He went up so high, caught the ball at the top of his jump, landed on the 5 yard line, took two steps and then pushed off towards the goal line with the third, stretched out and came up short of the goal line. The catch was complete at that point.

You could say he fumbled when he hit the ground, but since the Packer DB tripped him, it was down by contact.

Never did he "not catch" the ball.

I have been watching the NFL since the early 60's, ... that has always been a catch.

 

[Everson24]

You know I think we just need to leave this call alone. Its not going to do us any good, It is what it is. We could have blown GB out but we didnt and that is what I have a harder time to deal with instead of that one play. We left too much on the field to be stuck on one play. Lets not be like Detroit and lets move pass this without prejuidce.

I do agree with you. Three plays ( Missed FG, Murray Fumble and Hanna's non-recovery) kept us from being up 38-7 or at worse 38-14. That is bugging me big time today.

 

[CATCH17]

HUGE difference in plays. In that one Dez catches it, runs and literally springs forward to stretch it out. Rewatch yesterdays again and be honest without being a Cowboy fan and I can see it being him just falling to the ground

I see him with the ball in 2 hands, put it in his left hand, and reach for the endzone.