This is why I couldn't stand Wade Phillips, but I loved him at the same time

FuzzyLumpkins

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Wade treated players like men and what he got was many who acted like little kids and quitters. Yes it was up to Wade to put and end to that and he didn't which cost him but I think it is a damn shame when highly paid pros can't wrap their heads around the fact that we pay you to do a job, not for your lip not for your opinion but to do the job and all it entails.

Highly paid or not the average age of an NFL player is about 25. Actuarial data demonstrates how responsible and level headed the under 25 group is. If anything giving that demographic millions of dollars is going to lead to more of what you don't want as opposed to less. Just human nature.
 

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Yet coach Landry did not believe in motivation. I think getting guys to understand is important I don't think all guys need motivation they carry themselves as professional and take on themselves to go out and do the job they have been paid to do. You think Roger Staubach needed coach Landry to motivate him? or Jimmy to motivate Troy Aikman? these guys too the job seriously they acted as professionals as do many. Others on the other hand need constant supervisions they do not know what being a professional is.

Landry had the fear of God in his players. Whether or not he called it motivation or whatever, he had himself a big ole stick. Randy White and Bob Lilly were made uneasy by him and those two guys are tough as nails.
 

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I have always like Wade, he has been and is a good DC, When he has had the chance to be HC he has treated his players like men but all to often the players do not act like men. Face it guys are paid big bucks you should not have to ride them about watching film, getting in the work out you need, being on time and putting in max effort.

...And then they quit on him...By the way, TO, is that you? :)
 

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One thing I will say Wade was better than Garrett in is situational football, Clock management and he knew when to Challenge a call. I thought Wade was very good in how he handled the Refs on the sidelines.

Garrett would yell at a ref and forget about the red flag in his pocket that he could use. Garrett has gotten better with this since he gave up the play calling. I would say Wade had his defense looking better than Garrett did the offense for the most part when he was here.
 

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I agree with Wade's conclusion, but you don't have to yell and scream to lead. The "stick" can simply be punishments for poor performance. I actually think that's more important because if you yell and scream all the time but don't back it up, then the yelling loses its effect. After a while it's just noise. Landry held so much power that players would have been crazy not to fear him. There's no way to prove it but I'd wager players were less at ease with Landry than with Jimmy.
 

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Lost respect for Wade when he tried to pass off a bye week as a playoff victory, but Jerry didn't do him a ton of favors--he had to look over his shoulder at the owner's pet cat/head coach in waiting and had to deal with things like TO and Pac Man on the team at the same time.......
 

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Yet coach Landry did not believe in motivation. I think getting guys to understand is important I don't think all guys need motivation they carry themselves as professional and take on themselves to go out and do the job they have been paid to do. You think Roger Staubach needed coach Landry to motivate him? or Jimmy to motivate Troy Aikman? these guys too the job seriously they acted as professionals as do many. Others on the other hand need constant supervisions they do not know what being a professional is.

I disagree. Landry recognized his strong suit was not motivation, but he still believed in it.. He therefore brought in assistants that could handle those aspects. Guys like Ernie Stautner who could be loud, boisterous and in your face to motivate the players.
 

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Wade wasn't a bad following a completely different coach in Parcells. But the problem with Wade Phillips is that he's just not ever been that good a coach after a couple years. He probably stayed here a bit too long.
 

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ad-coach-but-im-a-good-defensive-coordinator/



Fantastic guy. Very solid defensive coordinator. Terrible head coach.

Some people aren't leaders of men, and that's perfectly OK. Not everybody is meant to lead, and an organization would fall to pieces if it had 50 CEOs. Most of us aren't built to run the whole tamale.

Jason Garett is a better head coach than he is a coordinator. Same for Jimmy Johnson and others.

But there is always a place for the Wades, Rod Marinellis, Scott Linehans, and Dick LeBeaus in football.

And to Wade's credit, he knows that and is fine with it. Good for him.

And hopefully Marinelli and Linehan understand this and don't decide to go anywhere else. NFL head coach is actually more like a supervisor with the nuts and bolts gruntwork being handled by the coordinators------which is why Garrett was biting off more than he could chew. He also has to be the one who keeps the entire team focused game to game, prep & executing the game plan and of course game management. And there can only be one HC on the team (...... looking at you Jerry ---:omg:-). Stay in your lane.

"Coming together is a beginning. Keeping together is progress. Working together is success." --Henry Ford
 

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Wade simply couldn't bring the respect and discipline necessary to get the guys to really follow under him as HC. When practices were dubbed 'camp cupcake', I knew there was a problem. I remember we brought some guy from FA in and one of our players got mad at him for hitting too hard or something and he said, "We don't do that around here." Wade simply was too nice and friendly with the players. Look at Bill Bellichick. Say what you will about him, but he simply doesn't play around, and the results show. The team that just won the superbowl... it isn't filled with the type of talent that you think will win the superbowl, but he got those guys to step up. I remember reading some story about Revis showing up late to practice or something along those lines and Bellichick sent him home. The average coach would probably let it slide because 'that's Darrelle Revis', one of the best corners in the game.

Some guys are simply better coordinators and others are simply better head coaches. There's nothing wrong with admitting that. Linehan and Marinelli are simply awesome coordinators, but that didn't really translate over to the HC position. On the other hand, I don't want Garrett as any kind of coordinator, but he's doing a fantastic job at HC and getting the guys to buy into his program.
 

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When Wade left the Texans, he mentioned his advice to them was to draft 'Johnny Football' with their #1 pick. Yow! Stay at the DC position Wade.
 

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Parcells advised us to take Barbie Carpenter with our 1st pick though lol.

Parcells had a good system for drafting. But almost every pick that he made against scouts' recommendations turned out to be lackluster. He was in his decline as a football guy. Even then, he was better than what Dallas had had for quite a while. And he did roast the media amazingly well while he was here.
 

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I'm not sure he really admitted that he was a bad head coach. My suspicion is that he is playing into his perception by saying it. I'd really like to have seen a video of him saying it. I suspect that their was some sarcasm in it.
 

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Wade never won anything as a d coordinator either. loser all the way around.
 

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I'm not sure he really admitted that he was a bad head coach. My suspicion is that he is playing into his perception by saying it. I'd really like to have seen a video of him saying it. I suspect that their was some sarcasm in it.

Yeah, I think he was saying it full of sarcasm. He's constantly pointing to his record as head coach looking for another gig.

He's a weak minded excuse maker who could never take over a reclamation project and build a contender. It just won't happen.
 
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