This is why I'm hesitant to extend Garrett

[CATCH17]

Jason Garrett sucks.. I stood by that stance when the team was doing good and when we're doing bad as well. He just gives us no coaching advantage.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

if they don't make the playoffs after starting 6 and 1 you wont have to worry about a extension for him or therest of the coaching staff

Yeah bit I think we will go 9-7 or 10-6 and maybe playoffs with one and done.

Jerry will say, my puppet master plan is working.... Keeps Jason "on the job training but not learning much" Garrett.

Shame.

Now that we have power running game and great o-line, I wish we had Parcells.

 

[CATCH17]

I really don't see how yesterdays game was on the coaches ... that was some terrible quarterback play.

Agreed but you would think there would be some play designs that could get the ball in a receivers hands before the 4th quarter.

 

[BigStar]

half our starting cbs? who are you referring to? claiborne? he was only here for a short time and starting b/c scandrick was suspended. c'mon man i can't let you get away with that. he's a nobody on this team. same thing with sean lee. he was hurt months and months ago. team had time to prepare for his departure.

so we've had an injury to durant who is a good player, free to parnell drop off is minimal, and leary for one game. this is not a big deal and shouldn't be used as an excuse for garrett. look around the league, heck just look at our division. skins have missed multiple games without their starting qb, lost tight end reed for multiple games, orakpo out for the year, lost their starting nose, half their secondary including the emotional leader of their team in d. hall.

the eagles just lost their starting qb for weeks, ryan who is the heart and soul of their D for the year, herremans got hurt again and they whether thru the storm when half their oline was out for the 1st half of the season. pro bowler mathis out for weeks, barbre out for the year, lane johnson suspended for a month, and their starting center kelce for 2 months.

we have had it good my friend.

This is how the "Went through 20 DL" mantra became so popular last year...

 

[Idgit]

I agree with some of your points but even if we had many holes on the roster I do think Garrett did cost us about 2-3 games a year, there were games that should have been won if not for por game management. (pre 2014).

We have a better team this year and the addition of Linehan has been huge IMO, I wouldn’t extend Garrett until after the season but my view of him has changed, I wanted him gone after the 2012 and 2013 seasons but he has done a good job this year, I think he´s likely to get an extension after this year (unless something drastically bad happens in the next 7 games) and I´d be all for it.

I'll say this: there are a couple games every year under Garrett where specific coaching decisions affect the outcome of a game in a way that's obvious to fans. And when the team loses, no matter which decision the coach made, he's going to get blamed if the outcome was unsuccessful. On better teams, those situations don't come up as frequently, because the better rosters tend to lead to players making an extra play or two that keeps the good teams out of so many do/die situations. In those games, the situations where a coach's call can be second-guessed are fewer and further between.

When your defense can't stop anybody, you better bet you're going to be in a lot of tight games. That's happened to us a lot the last three seasons. It exposes the coaches and then fans think we lose the games because of the coaching decisions.

I'm not saying in any way that I think Garrett's decisions in those situations are always right. In fact, he's too conservative for my taste and I think it probably has cost us a time or two. At the same time, I think he's doing everything you need him to do on the back end to build a roster that's simply not in so many of those situations every year, and I think that's where he really excels when it comes to leading this team.

Injuries to a thin roster have kept us from getting all the way out of that hole the last two years, but we're younger now, and we're still relatively healthy as NFL teams go. Most of our recent injuries are not long-term. We're in a good position to keep winning and to limit the do/die situations here after the bye. Let's hope that's what happens because, if it finally does, it's been a long time coming.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

half our starting cbs? who are you referring to? claiborne? he was only here for a short time and starting b/c scandrick was suspended. c'mon man i can't let you get away with that. he's a nobody on this team. same thing with sean lee. he was hurt months and months ago. team had time to prepare for his departure.

so we've had an injury to durant who is a good player, free to parnell drop off is minimal, and leary for one game. this is not a big deal and shouldn't be used as an excuse for garrett. look around the league, heck just look at our division. skins have missed multiple games without their starting qb, lost tight end reed for multiple games, orakpo out for the year, lost their starting nose, half their secondary including the emotional leader of their team in d. hall.

the eagles just lost their starting qb for weeks, ryan who is the heart and soul of their D for the year, herremans got hurt again and they whether thru the storm when half their oline was out for the 1st half of the season. pro bowler mathis out for weeks, barbre out for the year, lane johnson suspended for a month, and their starting center kelce for 2 months.

we have had it good my friend.

We will agree to disagree. The Eagles...the team we will probably be battling with...they just lost those players YESTERDAY. You missed the loss of Bruce Carter. You missed the amount of games Anthony Spencer has missed. You missed the amount of games DeMarcus Lawrence has missed. You missed the amout of games that Scandrick has missed. Listen...I am not the biggest Garrett fan in the world....and we did get off to a 6-1 start in SPITE of the injuries. But they are starting to mount...and when I consider all of the road games we have in cold weather cities down the stretch....10 wins would be huge. If we win 10 games and miss the playoffs....especially with the arrow of the organization pointing up....and Romo with about 3 years...you going to fire him?

 

[Zordon]

We will agree to disagree. The Eagles...the team we will probably be battling with...they just lost those players YESTERDAY. You missed the loss of Bruce Carter. You missed the amount of games Anthony Spencer has missed. You missed the amount of games DeMarcus Lawrence has missed. You missed the amout of games that Scandrick has missed. Listen...I am not the biggest Garrett fan in the world....and we did get off to a 6-1 start in SPITE of the injuries. But they are starting to mount...and when I consider all of the road games we have in cold weather cities down the stretch....10 wins would be huge. If we win 10 games and miss the playoffs....especially with the arrow of the organization pointing up....and Romo with about 3 years...you going to fire him?

dude you said in your original post that injuries are starting to mount. how are you going to say that when all those guys you just listed are already back and healthy?

romo out for one game versus the eagles/skins losing their qbs for multiple games. could you imagine weeden starting for multiple games? next week we should only have durant and maybe crawford out. is that really that bad?

 

[khiladi]

We will agree to disagree. The Eagles...the team we will probably be battling with...they just lost those players YESTERDAY. You missed the loss of Bruce Carter. You missed the amount of games Anthony Spencer has missed. You missed the amount of games DeMarcus Lawrence has missed. You missed the amout of games that Scandrick has missed. Listen...I am not the biggest Garrett fan in the world....and we did get off to a 6-1 start in SPITE of the injuries. But they are starting to mount...and when I consider all of the road games we have in cold weather cities down the stretch....10 wins would be huge. If we win 10 games and miss the playoffs....especially with the arrow of the organization pointing up....and Romo with about 3 years...you going to fire him?

The problem is, the defense is playing just fine... It's the offense. It's not like Romo was playing well against the Commanders either. The way Haslett attacked this offense manifested the same problems we've had for years in this scheme. Free runners on blitzes despite our line.

 

[Idgit]

Jason Garrett sucks.. I stood by that stance when the team was doing good and when we're doing bad as well...

Hate to break it to you, CATCH, but that's not dedication to a principle, that's just ignoring the available evidence. Teams with head coaches who suck simply don't 'do well.'

 

[khiladi]

Look at it this way...

Without Romo, this team offensively looks like garbage. There is a clear weakness in the system in place, where a back-up QB can't win games for us. What's the point of signing Garrett long-term is Romo can't last? This team is going to have to scrap whatever it is when Romo is gone. You better have a coach with a real plan and philosophy.

 

[LandryFan]

There's actually something to be said for the idea that adversity makes teams better over the course of a season. Hypothetically, we get an opportunity here to adjust offensively to a blitz-heavy game plan, and we take that off the table if we do so it's not a surprise for us later in the year. Hit the bye. Get healthier. Get Lawrence up to speed, some more playing time for Hitchens, and Brent in the lineup. Make a few personnel changes (like more defensive snaps for Patmon, for example. Or more Melton) to keep things fresh on defense. And then run the gauntlet in PHI (whose injury issues are worse than ours by a fair amount), and hit the ground running after Thanksgiving with a shot at being one of the hot teams in the final stretch for once.

Not saying that's going to happen, but I'm pointing out that it could be possible. Think how boring sports movies would be if the good guys just won all the time and never had to overcome anything. Much more satisfying to take a punch or two along the way to prove you can take a punch when you need to.

Very sensible take.

 

[bkeavs]

Hate to break it to you, CATCH, but that's not dedication to a principle, that's just ignoring the available evidence. Teams with head coaches who suck simply don't 'do well.'

Barry Switzer

 

[Idgit]

Barry Switzer

Yeah, by my definition, Superbowl and National Championship coaches, by definition, also don't 'suck.' The same goes for guys like George Siefert.

 

[CATCH17]

Hate to break it to you, CATCH, but that's not dedication to a principle, that's just ignoring the available evidence. Teams with head coaches who suck simply don't 'do well.'

Plenty of sucky coaches have had a bit of success.. Garrett hasn't even had a bit yet. The guy hasn't even made the playoffs and has not once gave us a game day advantage.

 

[bkeavs]

Yeah, by my definition, Superbowl and National Championship coaches, by definition, also don't 'suck.' The same goes for guys like George Siefert.

Barry Switzer was a dreadful NFL coach. Just my opinion

 

[perrykemp]

My $0.02 on JG, now in his 5th year coaching the Cowboys, when he is at his best he won't lose you games, however, at his worst he'll be responsible for at least a couple of losses a year.

He is pretty much at his coaching ceiling.

Had they had just an average coach the past 3 years, the Cowboys probably make the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years.

 

[khiladi]

Plenty of sucky coaches have had a bit of success.. Garrett hasn't even had a bit yet. The guy hasn't even made the playoffs and has not once gave us a game day advantage.

If we had a scrub QB, I could see with growing with Garrett. But we don't... It's wasting a franchise QB and the possibility to actually win the big won, which is what your objective is year in and out.

 

[Idgit]

Plenty of sucky coaches have had a bit of success.. Garrett hasn't even had a bit yet. The guy hasn't even made the playoffs and has not once gave us a game day advantage.

I don't think so. I think sucky coaches pretty much suck. They don't get their teams to where Garrett's gotten his teams. Even the three years prior to this current season. Especially not fielding the sorts of rosters we've fielded during that time. Now, if you'd said you thought our defense had been sucky, I'd agree. Up until this year, where it's been mediocre. And not many teams do have bits of success with sucky defenses.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Coaching didn't stand out, but the players just got physically beat yesterday. The line lost the battle in the game, and so did the receivers. The QB looked like a camp body rather than a legitimate player.

That's not good. I'd almost rather it be bad coaching than bad play.

 

[Stash]

I really don't see how yesterdays game was on the coaches ... that was some terrible quarterback play.

On the coaches for not seeing that terrible quarterback play that all of us did. And relying on him as much as they did with the gameplan.

And to rely on the NFL's leading rusher for more than 19 carries all day.