This is why I'm hesitant to extend Garrett

cowboys2233

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that's true, but Colt McCoy beat us with a game plan...

McCoy CAN hit the broad side of a barn. Have you looked at that video clip of Weeden floating around? The one where he totally locked onto Dez...and then missed him by about ten yards...on a ten yard pass? The one where Beasley was right in front of his frickin' face with no one within ten yards of him? That single play sums up how pitiful and futile Weeden's peformance was. The fact that we didn't get blown out by 50 in that game is a big positive, IMO.
 

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You give this guy all the resources on offense, draft picks on top of draft picks, two former head coaches on that side of the ball and a 100 million dollar investment at the QB position yet all of our losses this year are due to the offense's inability to generate points due to mistakes or an inability make adjustments in a game plan due personnel or what the defense is doing. The defense with a rag tag bunch is holding their own. I swear I've seen this story before.

Please allow me to co-sign this. When you are right you are right, Z!
 

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McCoy CAN hit the broad side of a barn. Have you looked at that video clip of Weeden floating around? The one where he totally locked onto Dez...and then missed him by about ten yards...on a ten yard pass? The one where Beasley was right in front of his frickin' face with no one within ten yards of him? That single play sums up how pitiful and futile Weeden's peformance was. The fact that we didn't get blown out by 50 in that game is a big positive, IMO.

Which is true, but Colt also dinked and dunked his way to victory. We probably could have tried that...
 

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Which is true, but Colt also dinked and dunked his way to victory. We probably could have tried that...

I thought we did. I thought we ran plenty of underneath routes with a lot of opportunity to run after the catch. The two Beasley clips are perfect examples of that. Weeden either didn't see him (?!) or couldn't make a throw that a 9th grade QB should be able to make.
 

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I thought we did. I thought we ran plenty of underneath routes with a lot of opportunity to run after the catch. The two Beasley clips are perfect examples of that. Weeden either didn't see him (?!) or couldn't make a throw that a 9th grade QB should be able to make.

Not excusing him, but I'm not sure, based upon our progressions. If I was the coach, I'd be like Beasley is your first progression on all of these.
 

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But when we were 6 and 1 Linehan was the MVP of this team. Now that we're 6 and 3 its back to being Garrett's offense lol. This is insane. lol
 

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But when we were 6 and 1 Linehan was the MVP of this team. Now that we're 6 and 3 its back to being Garrett's offense lol. This is insane. lol

when we were 6-1 Romo, Leary and Free were out there struttin their stuff. With Weeden, Bernardeu and Parnell out there there's not so much struttin goin on.
 

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But when we were 6 and 1 Linehan was the MVP of this team. Now that we're 6 and 3 its back to being Garrett's offense lol. This is insane. lol

Did Garrett sign off on going into the season with Weeden as romo's back up?

As HC is Garrett not in charge of practices? Can he not evaluate QB play?

If he did, why is he not responsible for Weedens pathetic play ?
 

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I really don't see how yesterdays game was on the coaches ... that was some terrible quarterback play.

Well was it the coaching against the Commanders that got Tony killed by the blitz , that allowed a scrub to play QB against the Cardinals ?
 

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Not sure why people keep suggesting Garrett is coaching for his job. The owner and gm has never suggested it and really just the opposite. Also, seems obvious to me that he will keep Garrett at least until Romo ready to be replaced. Why waste a year of Romo on learing a new system. If it were up to me, I would have never hired him and would have let him go this past offseason. If he ain't helping the team, he is hurting it. He brings no special or distinguishable qualities a good coach should have.
 

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Did Garrett sign off on going into the season with Weeden as romo's back up?

As HC is Garrett not in charge of practices? Can he not evaluate QB play?

If he did, why is he not responsible for Weedens pathetic play ?

I never said he wasn't responsible. I'm just stating the double standards. When things go bad its all on Garrett. When things went well...people did EVERYTHING they could to give Linehan and Maranelli credit as if Garrett was a long for the ride. It just doesn't add up. You can't have it one way and not the either. Maranelli's defense doesn't look as All-World as it did and Linehan's showing what Lion's fans hated about him but its Garrett's fault because his backup quarterback in Kyle Orton decided to "retire" and they had NO salary cap money to sign a decent backup and had to rely on a cheap solution in Brandon Weeden.

If there was a crime committed here it was the lack of investment in a young quarterback in the draft in previous years. The crime wasn't wasting 800,000 on Brandon Weeden.

when we were 6-1 Romo, Leary and Free were out there struttin their stuff. With Weeden, Bernardeu and Parnell out there there's not so much struttin goin on.

I'm not going to use the injury excuse here. Teams all of the league have injuries. Most more than us. This team should be able to function with Weeden at quarterback. But this team is TOO reliant on Tony Romo's skillset.
Its too reliant on Tony Romo's ability to extend plays and get a breakdown in coverage.

This problem arose WHEN Romo was out there getting his back caved in because of he and this teams inability to adjust and read blitzes.
 

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If any coach can manage to not make the playoffs after a 6 - 1 start, I have no doubt Garrett can do it. He has already cost us the playoffs 3 years running with beyond idiotic game/clock management with win or go home games against division rivals to end each season. It would not be a hard to see him blowing it again.
 

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Not sure why people keep suggesting Garrett is coaching for his job. The owner and gm has never suggested it and really just the opposite. Also, seems obvious to me that he will keep Garrett at least until Romo ready to be replaced. Why waste a year of Romo on learing a new system. If it were up to me, I would have never hired him and would have let him go this past offseason. If he ain't helping the team, he is hurting it. He brings no special or distinguishable qualities a good coach should have.

We are suggesting he SHOULD be coaching for his job. To a lot of us, no playoffs = no extension. Jerry however would rather lose and be comfortable with Garrett than hire a real coach and win so I fully expect him to be back.
 

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We are suggesting he SHOULD be coaching for his job. To a lot of us, no playoffs = no extension. Jerry however would rather lose and be comfortable with Garrett than hire a real coach and win so I fully expect him to be back.

I agree he should be. Completely. Many though arent just saying he should be but are saying he will be gone if they waste the 6-1 start and media included but those that think that (not you) aren't paying much attention.
 

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I agree he should be. Completely. Many though arent just saying he should be but are saying he will be gone if they waste the 6-1 start and media included but those that think that (not you) aren't paying much attention.

I suspect that JJ will do a lot of soul searching if we don't get in this year...
 

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We are suggesting he SHOULD be coaching for his job. To a lot of us, no playoffs = no extension. Jerry however would rather lose and be comfortable with Garrett than hire a real coach and win so I fully expect him to be back.

Somehow I think if the Cowboys go 9-7 or miss the playoffs that Jerry will call it a Morale Victory and extend him anyway. :huh:
 

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I suspect that JJ will do a lot of soul searching if we don't get in this year...

Yes, Jones will look hard in the mirror, take himself behind the woodshed, remember back to when his credit card was cut up at Love Field.

That's Jones' style of soul searching.

Unless this team completely craters a la the 1986 Cowboys, Garrett will be extended and will be back for many years. He's Jerry's guy.
 

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Yes, Jones will look hard in the mirror, take himself behind the woodshed, remember back to when his credit card was cut up at Love Field.

That's Jones' style of soul searching.

Unless this team completely craters a la the 1986 Cowboys, Garrett will be extended and will be back for many years. He's Jerry's guy.

I agree that he would want to keep him; perhaps an assistant coach or two would be sacrificed instead ("round up the usual suspects...")...
 

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But when we were 6 and 1 Linehan was the MVP of this team. Now that we're 6 and 3 its back to being Garrett's offense lol. This is insane. lol

It's still his offense. Even with changes, certain weaknesses in the passing routes and the offense are becoming evident once again, especially with the blitz. If we don't have Romo, the offense looks like a joke. Linehan is the play-caller it's technically not his offense.

This is why I said, I wouldn't really get too over-blown about Linehan until we see the teams he played once, react to him the second time. Let's see how he adjusts to the blitz schematically, even with Romo. The Commanders feasted on this offense with the blitz even with Romo.

I do see some adjustments with more screens, which is good.
 
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