This loss was on Dak

[Sydla]

60% and had a few drops this past game.

And airmailed Dez, for example, at key spots.

He's been far from really good. But he's not alone in that regard. That description fits a lot of players thus far on this team, including the vaunted OL.

 

[Ken]

And airmailed Dez, for example, at key spots.

He's been far from really good. But he's not alone in that regard. That description fits a lot of players thus far on this team, including the vaunted OL.

Again, he hasn't been perfect and has had issues at times with accuracy. But he is playing well enough to win. Yesterday we should have won. There is no way that is on him.

I fully expect we will be having a different discussion about him and the entire team after game 8.

 

[Sydla]

Again, he hasn't been perfect and has had issues at times with accuracy. But he is playing well enough to win. Yesterday we should have won. There is no way that is on him.

I fully expect we will be having a different discussion about him and the entire team after game 8.

I don't get this whole "Player A played well enough to win" stuff.

Apparently he didn't play well enough to win. Because we lost. The fact he was far from perfect yesterday pretty much shows that yes, he could have played better. Just like a lot of players.

And for the record, I am not a Dak detractor. I just don't think he's played particularly well thus far. Frankly, I am surprised at the number of people who push back on that notion.

 

[TheHerd]

Yes. You are right. FA never helps a team close to contending fill a key hole. Like how adding Ware didn't help Denver.

But I get it. You are in full blown excuse mode now.

And no, I don't think the D has the pieces. They have no real safeties and are counting on Wood to eventually seize a spot. They might have a MLB issue if Smith can't improve. They lack a dominant 1 tech. And even with Lawrence they aren't a consistent pass rushing threat. Their best defender is over 30 in Lee and probably won't be as good 3 years from now when the D finally might be competed.

Oh and they have an average DC.

But other than that, the D is awesome.

I think you're being generous with the DC.

 

[Ken]

I don't get this whole "Player A played well enough to win" stuff.

Apparently he didn't play well enough to win. Because we lost. The fact he was far from perfect yesterday pretty much shows that yes, he could have played better. Just like a lot of players.

And for the record, I am not a Dak detractor. I just don't think he's played particularly well thus far. Frankly, I am surprised at the number of people who push back on that notion.

Dak doesn't play defense. That is why I am not remotely close to coming down on him. He made big time plays to put 30 points up.

That is what matters. He eill work out the accuracy stuff...i really dont know why Witten and Beas are not more involved...i will be looking at that when i review the tape.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

You see any parallels with RGIii and any other second year qbs? Wentz and Daks stats are very similar.....

What does wentz have to do with this?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

What does wentz have to do with this?

He doesn't...I'm asking you a question.....do you see any parallels between Wentz and RG3? They are both mobile and have great athleticism.....both had solid rookie campaigns.....both have good arms....

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

He doesn't...I'm asking you a question.....do you see any parallels between Wentz and RG3? They are both mobile and have great athleticism.....both had solid rookie campaigns.....both have good arms....

No because wentz is more polished in the pocket. Wentz has RB by committee. He’s a much better passer than Dak. I didn’t say quarterback I said passer. Wentz also does more with lesser weapons.

 

[Sydla]

Dak doesn't play defense. That is why I am not remotely close to coming down on him. He made big time plays to put 30 points up.

That is what matters. He eill work out the accuracy stuff...i really dont know why Witten and Beas are not more involved...i will be looking at that when i review the tape.

He also made some poor throws and poor decisions that could have helped offset the fact that the defense was hot garbage.

Again, I am not sure why people have to just lay blame on one player or one group. It's collective effort. Sure, we scored 30 points on offense, but if the OL and/or Prescott play better or Dez catches a key ball, they might have scored 40 and won the game.

Unless Dak or Dez or the OL played a perfect game, this idea they did enough is always squirrely to me.

 

[Sydla]

He doesn't...I'm asking you a question.....do you see any parallels between Wentz and RG3? They are both mobile and have great athleticism.....both had solid rookie campaigns.....both have good arms....

RG3 had a great rookie year. A pretty poor 2nd one.

Wentz was actually pretty average his rookie year and has improved from there (granted, he's not elite by any stretch himself).

 

[Mind_Liberator]

For the season? Not impressive Dez

At least half of those throws were just poor accuracy from Dak. He's late on his throws and lacks accuracy. I still think we made a huge mistake not playing Romo when he was healthy. With the weapons and protection this offense offers, I just want a guy that can consistently make his throws. I'd be willing to try Cooper Rush at this point.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No because wentz is more polished in the pocket. Wentz has RB by committee. He’s a much better passer than Dak. I didn’t say quarterback I said passer. Wentz also does more with lesser weapons.

Yet....Dak and Wentz stats are similar lol.

 

[Doomsday]

Dak has had some struggles reading defenses and with his accuracy at times, however the offensive line and WRs are not doing him any favors either. Jason Witten is getting blown up a the point of attack quite a bit as well.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Yet....Dak and Wentz stats are similar lol.

Right keep fooling yourself. Those bootlegs are working less and less. You’ll be disappointed I won’t. I’m already studying the 2018 QB draft prospects

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

RG3 had a great rookie year. A pretty poor 2nd one.

Wentz was actually pretty average his rookie year and has improved from there (granted, he's not elite by any stretch himself).

Wentz second season isn't far off from what he did last year but it's only 4 games..

Right keep fooling yourself. Those bootlegs are working less and less. You’ll be disappointed I won’t. I’m already studying the 2018 QB draft prospects

So you are studying qbs for 2018 so you can just continue to complain and cry about something else? Why even set yourself up for that let down? I really don't get some of you guys.

 

[Sydla]

Wentz second season isn't far off from what he did last year but it's only 4 games..

What?

- Passer rating of 79.3 versus 90.5
- QB Rating of 49.4 versus 64.6
- YPA of 6.2 versus 7.2
- TD/Int ratio is better

The only "down" is his completion percentage. But it's pretty clear Wentz is playing better this year than last year. Certainly, though, he's not playing like a star this year by any stretch.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

What?

- Passer rating of 79.3 versus 90.5
- QB Rating of 49.4 versus 64.6
- YPA of 6.2 versus 7.2
- TD/Int ratio is better

The only "down" is his completion percentage. But it's pretty clear Wentz is playing better this year than last year. Certainly, though, he's not playing like a star this year by any stretch.

No, Wentz in the first 4 games last year had a qb rating over 100 except once.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

No because wentz is more polished in the pocket. Wentz has RB by committee. He’s a much better passer than Dak. I didn’t say quarterback I said passer. Wentz also does more with lesser weapons.

He's got a stronger arm, but if you're frustrated with some of the erratic throws that Dak has made this season, I wonder how much of Wentz you've seen. He rifles every pass, even 5-yard routes and its led to a lot of misses/drops. He also throws high a lot, especially over the middle of the field. He's impressive in stature, strength, seems more comfortable in the pocket and is actually more dangerous on broken plays than Dak, but his accuracy as a passer isn't his strong suit. Dak has shown better touch on his passes (especially last season).

 

[erod]

He drove the bus? So Dak didn't make any plays last year for this team? So you're telling me Dak is the only one that has regressed this year? What's the offensive lines excuse?

He hasn't regressed. The league has figured him out.

He made lots of plays last year OUTSIDE THE POCKET. The Vikings and Giants showed everybody what to do. Crowd the line of scrimmage, take away the short passes, and don't let him get outside the pocket. He will not hurt you if you keep him inside the pocket. He has not confidence to throw from there downfield.

Now, it's up to him to change that.

Bad defenses will still get torched by Dak and this offense, but good defenses can shut it down. He doesn't know how to pick apart coverages and blitz schemes like Romo learned to do, so he's just fish in a barrel for defensive coordinators right now.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He hasn't regressed. The league has figured him out.

He made lots of plays last year OUTSIDE THE POCKET. The Vikings and Giants showed everybody what to do. Crowd the line of scrimmage, take away the short passes, and don't let him get outside the pocket. He will not hurt you if you keep him inside the pocket. He has not confidence to throw from there downfield.

Now, it's up to him to change that.

Bad defenses will still get torched by Dak and this offense, but good defenses can shut it down. He doesn't know how to pick apart coverages and blitz schemes like Romo learned to do, so he's just fish in a barrel for defensive coordinators right now.

Well Dak is incredibly smart and a second year pro....the game will come to him and be easier. As of right now he's playing pretty good with room for improvement.