This offense is awful

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And we get a laugh at the rival teams meltdowns...wonder what they think about threads and posts on America's Team...bet they are getting a huge laugh at us right now.
and...queue the...we aren't America's Team...stuff...

Currently... Americas team and America are both in real trouble.

Better?
 

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I couldnt agree more. How many years did it take him to figure out that Play action was a staple in every NFL offense? Then it was WR screens. Now its rub and pick plays that he hasnt learned about yet. Its really not difficult stuff. You look at what other teams do that works and you copy. Not genius stuff here. The Pats run those pick plays all day long. Its maddening to watch the Dallas offense.

But at the end of the day can we really blame Garrett? Its not like he is going to quit. Jones gave him the job and is paying him millions. If he asked me to coach I couldnt say no. Its not his fault he isnt very good at it. Its Jones fault for hiring him and keeping him here. Garrett has actually been put in a position that he isnt capable of succeeding at. And sadly enough, Jones freely admits that he has seen exactly what many of us have seen and he still does nothing about it. He accepts the growing pains, the errors, the poor clock managment, NOT going to dez more often. He watches it with his own eyes, recognizes it, and yet does nothing about it.

How many times has Jerry said that NOT being able to compete for a championship while Romo has been our QB is one of his biggest disappointments? Yet he continues to enable just that.

good post, that is it , and how long will he do nothing??
 

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now the defense is playing a little better the offense cant get out of its own way. Ireally think we missed the boat last year and this year with tony getting older and so many free agents im just not sure this team will ever compete for a superbowl in the near future. I just don't trust a 36 year old qb and our coaching staff and front office to pull it of I would hope they could but my trust factor is now 0 after this year.
 

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I knew it was bad but didn't realize it was this bad. This has become Campo's Cowboys.

Romo has 35 drives on the season and scored only 5 TD's.

Cassel has 55 drives and has only scored 7 TD's.

We have clipped off a full touchdown and extra point off of our scoring offense from last year as well.

Our leading reciever is Witten at 60 catches.

McFadden is averaging a mere 3.8 yards per carry.

We will not have a 3,000 yard passer, 1,000 yard rusher, or 1,000 reciever this year in 16 games.


Awful!

Do you think this is talked about inside the organization? Or is it the taboo, elephant in the room subject that nobody wants to talk about? Or, are they just oblivious to it ? All serious questions.
 

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I've done the eye test and have been complaining about this offense since JG took over, but didn't realize it was this bad! People want to say if we hadn't just lost Romo, but that's not truly the case as he was not scoring as well.

Lol I did. You know it's bad when we can't score a TD on Tampa Bay.

We have 21 total TDs total which is second to last
 

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It should not have been a surprise to anybody that an offense needs a capable QB to be successful. I know it's popThatular to bandy about the idea that a good QB 'covers up' for a bad coach, but the reality is, you can't win many games without a good QB, and, if you do, it's because you've got a defense that makes the other guys' QBs look worse than your own.

The team doesn't lack scheme or discipline. That's just something fans say when they don't want to hold players they like responsible for holding onto footballs or catching critical 3rd downs. This team has been in position to win all but two games this season with the scheme and the discipline it's got on hand. It's lost those games because our players didn't make the plays that were right there to be made. End of story.

The two games we lost where we didn't really have a chance were both to better teams than we've got right now.

So backup QBs = 7 straight losses. Gotcha, lemme check if that checks out:( What else ya got? I thought JG rebuilt the team? Shouldn't a rebuilt team be able to squeak out a win in 7 games QB or no QB? This is on the HC/OC; fault goes back to HC for losing OC responsibility due to his ineptness in the first place.
 
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I'm sure Percy can provide a page full of stats that shows our offense is better than last years.
 

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So backup QBs = 7 straight losses. Gotcha, lemme check if that checks out:( What else ya got? I thought JG rebuilt the team? Shouldn't a rebuilt team be able to squeak out a win in 7 games QB or no QB? This is on the HC/OC; fault goes back to HC for losing OC responsibility due to his ineptness in the first place.

I didn't sat that the losses were all on the backup QB. You're the one who specifically brought up Romo being the one who made the offense look formidable.

Again, the rebuilt team was in position to win 5 of those 7 games. And by that I mean the players playing the schemes were in exact position to make the plays to win 5 of those 7 games and did not make them. It's not the ineptness of the coaching.

You can make the argument that the coach failed to get us the players in place to make those plays. That makes more sense, at least. But then there are the issues of the key players missing key stretches that everybody wants to pretend didn't happen. On top of that, you have drops like Dez' on 3rd and 1 in Tampa, or the push off on Williams that wins the PHI game if it doesn't happen. Maybe we ought to have other guys than those guys in the lineup, but I'm not sure that's a particularly reasonable argument. Those are pretty good players.

Losing Tony meant that all of our games were going to be closer than they might have been otherwise. It didn't mean they were all going to be losses. Losing Tony and then not having the rest of the team step up at crunch time is what got us the 7 losses. Hanna make a tackle on ST against the Giants. Street not get the downfield flag on the TD pass to McFadden. There were opportunities to win those games and the players didn't make the plays. That's what's missing this season that wasn't missing last season. Now, is that coaching? If it is, then I buy that that's on Garrett. I'm honestly not sure how to assess he problem myself. All I know is that the plays have been there to be made and the team is not making them. But it hasn't been the play calling or the scheme that's been the problem. It's been the execution.
 

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I'm sure Percy can provide a page full of stats that shows our offense is better than last years.

That's really unfair to percy. All that cat does is provide the information for people to draw their own conclusions from. He can't help if if that information is often counter to what popular consensus wants to believe.

The goal is to have an informed understanding of what's going on, which is so much better than people just believing whatever they want to believe is true without regard for the football happening on the field.
 

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That's really unfair to percy. All that cat does is provide the information for people to draw their own conclusions from. He can't help if if that information is often counter to what popular consensus wants to believe.

The goal is to have an informed understanding of what's going on, which is so much better than people just believing whatever they want to believe is true without regard for the football happening on the field.

Did you agree with his statistical findings a few weeks ago claiming that our running game is better than last years?
 

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I didn't sat that the losses were all on the backup QB. You're the one who specifically brought up Romo being the one who made the offense look formidable.

Again, the rebuilt team was in position to win 5 of those 7 games. And by that I mean the players playing the schemes were in exact position to make the plays to win 5 of those 7 games and did not make them. It's not the ineptness of the coaching.

You can make the argument that the coach failed to get us the players in place to make those plays. That makes more sense, at least. But then there are the issues of the key players missing key stretches that everybody wants to pretend didn't happen. On top of that, you have drops like Dez' on 3rd and 1 in Tampa, or the push off on Williams that wins the PHI game if it doesn't happen. Maybe we ought to have other guys than those guys in the lineup, but I'm not sure that's a particularly reasonable argument. Those are pretty good players.

Losing Tony meant that all of our games were going to be closer than they might have been otherwise. It didn't mean they were all going to be losses. Losing Tony and then not having the rest of the team step up at crunch time is what got us the 7 losses. Hanna make a tackle on ST against the Giants. Street not get the downfield flag on the TD pass to McFadden. There were opportunities to win those games and the players didn't make the plays. That's what's missing this season that wasn't missing last season. Now, is that coaching? If it is, then I buy that that's on Garrett. I'm honestly not sure how to assess he problem myself. All I know is that the plays have been there to be made and the team is not making them. But it hasn't been the play calling or the scheme that's been the problem. It's been the execution.

The execution argument should be taken away with good coaching. That alone defeats your last paragraph but commend you on the support. In all honesty, breaks SHOULD have gone JG's way to get him a couple of wins, even with his conservative gameplan. The problem, and has been for far too long, is he didn't adust. You adjust to not having your starting QB. You adjust to shorter, comfortable routes that should help the QB. We saw none of that in Romo's absences. Where was the short passing game scheme for Weeden to succeed? When he failed, where were the comfortable passes designed for a QB needing to get comfortable? We didn't see any of that. We saw run on 1 and 2 and hope for someone to make a play. Get out in front Garrett! You don't have to settle for that. How bout a motion flat to Beas that isn't on 3rd and short? A Dez rub against the middle? He had opps. He never took them You can't teach cojones.
 

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Did you agree with his statistical findings a few weeks ago claiming that our running game is better than last years?

Yep. Because it was information, and not opinion. I try to kit just reject things that aren't consistent with what I find myself wanting to believe.
 

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Granted on the RB thing. And Campo had Hambrick and Chad Hutchinson wasnt it? Henson, Quincy? I cant even remember exactly. That Oline was pretty bad too.

Just for fun i went back and looked at the rosters and stats. The campo cowboys had decent linebackers and safeties, ok oline with larry allen, flozell adams, stepnoski who was replaced by gurode the next year. Their problem where at qb , receiver, and d line ( which is alot)
 

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Yep. Because it was information, and not opinion. I try to kit just reject things that aren't consistent with what I find myself wanting to believe.

You agree with everything he posts you're always defending him. The information he provided showed just how meaningless his statistical information is. What he posted proved that stats don't tell the whole story because our running game isn't near as good as it was last season. He does more than just provide the information for people to draw their own conclusions from he'll argue for days with anyone who doesn't come to the same conclusions he has.
 

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You agree with everything he posts you're always defending him. The information he provided showed just how meaningless his statistical information is. What he posted proved that stats don't tell the whole story because our running game isn't near as good as it was last season. He does more than just provide the information for people to draw their own conclusions from he'll argue for days with anyone who doesn't come to the same conclusions he has.

Sigh. Your argument ran itself into a ditch here, so I think that's probably where we should just let it lie.
 

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I knew it was bad but didn't realize it was this bad. This has become Campo's Cowboys.

Romo has 35 drives on the season and scored only 5 TD's.

Cassel has 55 drives and has only scored 7 TD's.

We have clipped off a full touchdown and extra point off of our scoring offense from last year as well.

Our leading reciever is Witten at 60 catches.

McFadden is averaging a mere 3.8 yards per carry.

We will not have a 3,000 yard passer, 1,000 yard rusher, or 1,000 reciever this year in 16 games.


Awful!

I mentioned this before. The main reason that is destroying this team is Garrett's playbook. It really needs to go.

Romo and his ability to improvise and make changes to the plays made this offense look good for many years. Not Garrett.

Callahan came here and made some necessary changes to the offense and magic happened last year. Callahan isn't anything special mind you. However, some of his plays were inserted into the offense and we had our best seasons as long as I can remember.

Garrett has brought back his playbook and Linehan is just calling plays from them.

Its time we get rid of the playbook entirely. Its been holding this team back for several years now.
 
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