This offense is awful

[Nightman]

Quite frankly when it comes down to adjustments and the dynamic that you're saying here, we don't know enough to make fair judgments on what is or is not done. I know for a fact that Linehan makes line and route adjustments on offense and Marinelli is always mixing up his calls. They do that constantly trying to match personnel or beat it.

I look at it this way. How much of the playbook do you think Cassel knows? He has probably been able to memorize the calls but he wasn't there when these plays were installed and there is only so much you can do in the middle of the season. They are also likely having to adjust all of their practice around their QB not knowing the offense. It has a trickle down effect. When it comes to line calls and adjustments. It looks like he only has a tenuous grasp to me. He has no rapport with his receivers. Being inaccurate is one thing but he's throwing when they're not expecting it. Tony would make the call and tell his receivers through signals that they were the hot read. I see no such mechanic in play with Cassel.

It's the same idea when you have bad quarterback play in practice you cannot tell much of anything about the players it's much the same here. Sure a better coach might have gone 2-5 and with Cassel but I don't even think Payton could overcome the albatross that is our QB play.

As for Garrett, I just think in some ways he is entirely too conservative and enslaved by his categorization. He never seems to go for it on their side of the field for example. Thinking of parables. It's like knowing a lot of riffs and not being able to write a song. It's like having a perfect memory and not being able to tell a story. It's like being able to see something and not know it's shape. It's like being able to coach every position but not win a game. He'll insist on putting certain personnel groupings like those heavy sets and it ends with inferior players on the field far too much for example. He insists on the FB another. Marinelli has cooked up some interesting fronts but outside of that Garrett's teams don't innovate.

He also apparently has blind spots. The Matt Cassel debacle reminds me quite a lot of the Brad Johnson debacle of several years ago.

I will say that the Loney guy they brought in to replace Callahan in the run game coordinator role needs to be replaced. We've gone back to Garrett's leads and draws. It's had a modicum of success but the run style of last year where we're running a steady stream of stretches and those counter pulls with Martin clearing out is gone now. I think more than a little of that might be DMC and his limitations too.

I think JG is a Stepford coach. He looks the part, says all the right things, is the son a coach, learned under the best as a backup. He checks all of the boxes but something is off.

He is stuck to a mindset that is outdated. He is way too conservative. The line that stuck out from Keown's article was how he thought 99% of the guys do the right thing 100% of the time or that 100% of the guys do the right thing 99% of the time. He relies too much on the plan and players doing the right thing every time. But we've had success because Romo is one of the best at reading Defenses, improvising and making something out of nothing.

 

[Blackspider214]

FIFY.

Listen... I don't even want to be a Garrett defender, but arguments like these make me take that position. You've never seen a team lose its franchise QB and implode? Do you remember that 2011 Colts team?

How many teams in this league can win games with their backup? Steelers won with Landry Jones. Their 3rd string. You saying losing Ben R wasn't a huge deal to them? All we needed to do was win one single game. Just ONE. And we could not. Garrett allowed this team to sink without Romo. 100% on him.

And yes. I do remember. And that coach was fired after that season. Caldwell. Like Garrett needs to be fired. Glad you brought up that scenario to further prove our points that Garrett needs to lose his job over this debacle of a season.

 

[weaver21]

No matter how much everyone on here wants Garrett gone, it's just not gonna happen. People just need to accept that. If we had this kind of season with Romo and Dez healthy all season, then I'd say there would be a good chance Garrett would be fired. However, because of those injuries, Jerry now has an excuse to keep him. It's pretty simple, people. Jerry is an open book and he's made it clear that he thinks highly of Red and that he wants him around for a long time. JG is his puppet just like Wade and Campo were. I just can't see someone like Sean Payton coming in and allowing Jerry to control him. I couldn't imagine Payton becoming a "yes man" to Jerry.

 

[muck4doo]

Wah wah waaaaaahhh..... Let's just win this game tomorrow.

 

[ConstantReboot]

No matter how much everyone on here wants Garrett gone, it's just not gonna happen. People just need to accept that. If we had this kind of season with Romo and Dez healthy all season, then I'd say there would be a good chance Garrett would be fired. However, because of those injuries, Jerry now has an excuse to keep him. It's pretty simple, people. Jerry is an open book and he's made it clear that he thinks highly of Red and that he wants him around for a long time. JG is his puppet just like Wade and Campo were. I just can't see someone like Sean Payton coming in and allowing Jerry to control him. I couldn't imagine Payton becoming a "yes man" to Jerry.

We all know that Garrett won't be leaving the Cowboys anytime soon. But we all know Garrett is a problem and that the Joneses are doing whatever they can to spin that PR wheel. They won't admit that they made a mistake with Garrett. But they like him and try and help him succeed. But their are signs that the Joneses are catching on and their not as dumb as they look. Jerry brought in Callahan to call plays. Of course Garrett didn't like it. But guess what? It got us into the playoffs.

Now Jerry showed some displeasure about the coaching after the Washington game. He usually doesn't come out in public saying those things. It doesn't mean he kick Garrett to the can. But it could force Garrett to change. It might actually get him to use different plays for once and open up the playbook. Thats really all I want. Stop Garrett from using the playbook and I'm a happy camper. Let someone else do it. Because its obvious he has not an ounce of clue on whats going on when calling plays.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Quite frankly when it comes down to adjustments and the dynamic that you're saying here, we don't know enough to make fair judgments on what is or is not done. I know for a fact that Linehan makes line and route adjustments on offense and Marinelli is always mixing up his calls. They do that constantly trying to match personnel or beat it.

I look at it this way. How much of the playbook do you think Cassel knows? He has probably been able to memorize the calls but he wasn't there when these plays were installed and there is only so much you can do in the middle of the season. They are also likely having to adjust all of their practice around their QB not knowing the offense. It has a trickle down effect. When it comes to line calls and adjustments. It looks like he only has a tenuous grasp to me. He has no rapport with his receivers. Being inaccurate is one thing but he's throwing when they're not expecting it. Tony would make the call and tell his receivers through signals that they were the hot read. I see no such mechanic in play with Cassel.

Adjustments are made. But not the adjustments that win games. Or those adjustments are too little too late. Like in the Washington we had Beasley in motion and it was a Washington all out blitz. Cassell threw the ball too low and Beasley wasn't able to catch it. But Beasley was open on that play. So why didn't we run that again?

Another example was when Cassell did a play action and rolled out to his right in the 4th quarter. It went for a 1st down. Now why did we have to wait till the waning moments of the game to use a play action? Why did we only use that once?

I see there are adjustments. But we abandon them and go back to the basic run on first down, run on 2nd down, then throw on 3rd down. Its pattern that is very predictable and makes you shake your head and ask why can't a headcoach like Garrett make those simple changes to win games?

 

[ConstantReboot]

I will say that the Loney guy they brought in to replace Callahan in the run game coordinator role needs to be replaced. We've gone back to Garrett's leads and draws. It's had a modicum of success but the run style of last year where we're running a steady stream of stretches and those counter pulls with Martin clearing out is gone now. I think more than a little of that might be DMC and his limitations too.

Why blame Pollack for the lack of success on the run plays? Those plays were brought into the run game by Callahan last year and there is no reason why we can't use them now if need be. There is nothing stopping us except the the head coach or the OC. I think the question we should be asking is why those run plays that we were using last year ALL OF A SUDDEN disappeared from the playbook?

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

Just looked it up we are avenging 18 points per game. Average in 2000 with Campo? 18.

We also scored 18 points per game in 2003. With Quincy Carter as QB.

And we made the playoffs.

Of course, that was with a HOF coach. So, I guess that matters.

 

[percyhoward]

Why blame Pollack for the lack of success on the run plays? Those plays were brought into the run game by Callahan last year and there is no reason why we can't use them now if need be. There is nothing stopping us except the the head coach or the OC. I think the question we should be asking is why those run plays that we were using last year ALL OF A SUDDEN disappeared from the playbook?

We may start seeing more of the same kinds of running plays we saw in 2010 when Kitna was playing. You know, the ones that had the media applauding the new HC Garrett for bringing a physicality to the run blocking by instituting practices with pads because they saw our YPC go up, even though it only went up because of WR runs, bootlegs, tosses, and shotgun runs. (When the QB lined up under center and handed off we weren't any better than before Garrett took over.) But those kinds of runs were a reaction to the defenses we were seeing that had no respect for our downfield passes with the backup QB in the game.

Targets of 10+ yards
Dallas pass rating
2007 104.4
2008 97.6
2009 111.9
2010 70.9
2011 123.2
2012 101.4
2013 107.3
2014 119.7
2015 73.6

But I don't think Pollack deserves any more blame for our lower YPC than he does credit for our having virtually the same short-yardage numbers as last year and leading the league in TOP this year. This is what you get when one of the league's best run-blocking offensive lines gets little to no support from the passing game beyond 9 yards.

 

[rick2248]

People its too late for Garrett to change he will never be anything but what he is avg so if your looking for change he has to go 5 plus years he is what 45-39 I playoff win !

 

[rick2248]

We also scored 18 points per game in 2003. With Quincy Carter as QB.

And we made the playoffs.

Of course, that was with a HOF coach. So, I guess that matters.

That statement right there tells you all you need to know about Garrett !!!!

 

[ConstantReboot]

We may start seeing more of the same kinds of running plays we saw in 2010 when Kitna was playing. You know, the ones that had the media applauding the new HC Garrett for bringing a physicality to the run blocking by instituting practices with pads because they saw our YPC go up, even though it only went up because of WR runs, bootlegs, tosses, and shotgun runs. (When the QB lined up under center and handed off we weren't any better than before Garrett took over.) But those kinds of runs were a reaction to the defenses we were seeing that had no respect for our downfield passes with the backup QB in the game.

Targets of 10+ yards
Dallas pass rating
2007 104.4
2008 97.6
2009 111.9
2010 70.9
2011 123.2
2012 101.4
2013 107.3
2014 119.7
2015 73.6

But I don't think Pollack deserves any more blame for our lower YPC than he does credit for our having virtually the same short-yardage numbers as last year and leading the league in TOP this year. This is what you get when one of the league's best run-blocking offensive lines gets little to no support from the passing game beyond 9 yards.

I don't blame the passing game for our inefficiencies in short yardage. I blame the plays been brought in tipping the defense exactly what play were going to run. Like I mentioned before, if I can guess 90% of the time what play the Cowboys are going to run so can the defense.

When you have 3rd and short and you take out Bryant and put in TEs just to block with a full back everyone knows your running up the middle.

Some people here are blaming our passing game for the lack of ability to run. I don't think so. Its our predictability thats killing us in short yardage. Running the same play over and over expecting a different result is insanity.

Hard to blame Cassell when the coach tells him to run the ball up the gut and expect a 1st down can we? How can that be the fault of the passing game?

 

[rick2248]

I don't blame the passing game for our inefficiencies in short yardage. I blame the plays been brought in tipping the defense exactly what play were going to run. Like I mentioned before, if I can guess 90% of the time what play the Cowboys are going to run so can the defense.

When you have 3rd and short and you take out Bryant and put in TEs just to block with a full back everyone knows your running up the middle.

Some people here are blaming our passing game for the lack of ability to run. I don't think so. Its our predictability thats killing us in short yardage. Running the same play over and over expecting a different result is insanity.

Hard to blame Cassell when the coach tells him to run the ball up the gut and expect a 1st down can we? How can that be the fault of the passing game?

Time to light a fire under Garrett's *** he needs to be on the HOT SEAT !

 

[CF74]

It's a joke.....................

 

[Lodeus]

Dez's fault

 

[Aven8]

Any doubters anymore???

 

[noshame]

We're not dead yet,...,.....

 

[john van brocklin]

I knew it was bad but didn't realize it was this bad. This has become Campo's Cowboys.

Romo has 35 drives on the season and scored only 5 TD's.

Cassel has 55 drives and has only scored 7 TD's.

We have clipped off a full touchdown and extra point off of our scoring offense from last year as well.

Our leading reciever is Witten at 60 catches.

McFadden is averaging a mere 3.8 yards per carry.

We will not have a 3,000 yard passer, 1,000 yard rusher, or 1,000 reciever this year in 16 games.


Awful!

You can say that again, !
They are painful to watch : (

 

[CyberB0b]

We're not dead yet,...,.....

Have you been watching the games? We're lucky to score 14 points on the offense.

 

[TX_Yid]

I'm amazed we even got 7. Offense over performed today.