This Season has NOT been a success

[kingwhicker]

The team exceeded my expectations but had a horrible swoon from 7-3, so it's very bittersweet- I don't term any season that ends with no playoffs or a one and done a success, so that's where the bar has been raised in my opinion.

 

[big_neil]

What is this? Pre-Whining? We get to watch the final weekend of football and it has meaning. The odds are around 50/50 that the Cowboys make it. That's greater than the odds they had of beating Carolina. It should be an exciting weekend!

 

[rcaldw]

So, if we expect a super bowl, they'll win one this year?

Looks like you're one of the people who bought into the hyp of that 2003 team. Listen, making the playoffs, and getting 10 wins that year was the worst thing that could happen. It made JJ and Bill think we were a piece or two away, and we all saw how that went last year. Now, they recognize - truely - what they have, and are working on building a strong team. If 2003 Cowboys had to play this year's schedule, with similar injuries, you could chalk them up for 5-11.

Of course not. This team isn't winning a Super Bowl this year or any year soon. That is my point. If we think like a bunch of Cardinals fans and rejoice over 10 wins, oh how the mighty have fallen.

And in terms of this not being the 70's or 90's, please tell that to the Patriots and Colts who keep winning year after year after year.

So, you go ahead and rejoice in winning records with no playoffs and no shot at the Championship. I'll keep remembering what it means to be America's team.

 

[wileedog]

But they not only have won their division, they are a real threat to win another championship.

Their division consists of 2 of the worst teams in football and a .500 team in the first year of rebuilding with a new coach.

If the Pats were in this division they would be watching the playoffs with the rest of us.

Parcells had this team at 10 wins 2 years ago.

I consider this season far, far more successful than that one.

 

[superpunk]

Of course not. This team isn't winning a Super Bowl this year or any year soon. That is my point. If we think like a bunch of Cardinals fans and rejoice over 10 wins, oh how the mighty have fallen.

And in terms of this not being the 70's or 90's, please tell that to the Patriots and Colts who keep winning year after year after year.

So, you go ahead and rejoice in winning records with no playoffs and no shot at the Championship. I'll keep remembering what it means to be America's team.

Jeebus, man! This is the BEGINNING. If this team makes the playoffs, they could make some noise. But at the start of the season, NOONE put the Cowboys any better than 11-5. If they did, they're just a blind homer. This team is very young. The defense has shown some remarkable progress, considering it's the first year of a brand new scheme. Rome wasn't built in a day. A dynasty is being built here, make no mistake. They're made with great drafts, and a few key FAs, at least in the salary cap era. This is just the beginning. You can see the improvement.

 

[NicholasD]

"And in terms of this not being the 70's or 90's, please tell that to the Patriots and Colts who keep winning year after year after year."

You're talking as if the Colts and Patriots have been in the playoffs every single year they've existed. They've both had their long periods of futility [moreso than the Cowboys too, mind you]. Like I said before, it's a process, and the Cowboys are well on their way now that the foundation has been laid on the defense.

 

[rcaldw]

Jeebus, man! This is the BEGINNING. If this team makes the playoffs, they could make some noise. But at the start of the season, NOONE put the Cowboys any better than 11-5. If they did, they're just a blind homer. This team is very young. The defense has shown some remarkable progress, considering it's the first year of a brand new scheme. Rome wasn't built in a day. A dynasty is being built here, make no mistake. They're made with great drafts, and a few key FAs, at least in the salary cap era. This is just the beginning. You can see the improvement.

Obviously we all hope that is true. But even though you can point to a couple of examples, like Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson, Super Bowls require QB's. By the time this team is ready on defense, the offense will have to be addressed. By the time the offense is ready, then guys like Roy Williams will be starting on the down side. I see the approach they have taken as a recipe for mediocrity. Granted, better than average mediocrity, but mediocre just the same.

 

[TunaFan33]

Jeebus, man! This is the BEGINNING. If this team makes the playoffs, they could make some noise. But at the start of the season, NOONE put the Cowboys any better than 11-5. If they did, they're just a blind homer. This team is very young. The defense has shown some remarkable progress, considering it's the first year of a brand new scheme. Rome wasn't built in a day. A dynasty is being built here, make no mistake. They're made with great drafts, and a few key FAs, at least in the salary cap era. This is just the beginning. You can see the improvement.

I agree with everything you said.

However-we ARE better than alot of these teams(Skins, Gints, Hawks, Bengals, etc). But it's THEM that are hot right now and are on their way to the playoffs.

My biggest gripe about this season was the lack of enthusiasm(at times) we showed. If anything-this has been the Skins' strength this year.

 

[wileedog]

Obviously we all hope that is true. But even though you can point to a couple of examples, like Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson, Super Bowls require QB's. By the time this team is ready on defense, the offense will have to be addressed. By the time the offense is ready, then guys like Roy Williams will be starting on the down side. I see the approach they have taken as a recipe for mediocrity. Granted, better than average mediocrity, but mediocre just the same.

Nonsense.

We already have two running backs, a TE, and a youngster who can be a #2 WR in place. Its not going to take 3 years to shore up the O-Line, and add another WR.

The only question is the QB, which I suspect is the whole point of this, but even Parcells has said he's not settled with the QB spot.

And with the right supporting cast you can win with Bledsoe. He's better than Dilfer or Johnson.

 

[superpunk]

Obviously we all hope that is true. But even though you can point to a couple of examples, like Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson, Super Bowls require QB's. By the time this team is ready on defense, the offense will have to be addressed. By the time the offense is ready, then guys like Roy Williams will be starting on the down side. I see the approach they have taken as a recipe for mediocrity. Granted, better than average mediocrity, but mediocre just the same.

Well, you can think that all you want, but look how fast Bill got the defense back on track, once illusions of actual success from 2003 were out of the way. Bledsoe is better than average, and he runs Bills offense real well. We need line help. This team is right there. If we can find a QB of the future, yippee. I'll take what we got over the crap that was being rolled through here for 7 years anyday. Bledsoe is a legit QB, and can be REAL good if given half decent protection. He's not done yet. And who knows what Henson will turn out to be? It's not like he's 80 or anything.

 

[superpunk]

The only question is the QB, which I suspect is the whole point of this, but even Parcells has said he's not settled with the QB spot.

Hmmmm, it appears we suspect the same thing. Agendas....yummy, LOL.

 

[iceberg]

Gosh, if the team only played one side of the ball (OFFENSE) then I'd agree with you. The defense saw vast improvements, however, and the future looks bright for that side of the ball. This team is one or two drafts/FAs from being a superbowl prediction, not just a contender.

is this the #1 defense that fell dramatically when parcells got here and he then shelled it and yes, rebuilt it to being a top defense again? why is there success in restarting what was working while more or less patching up what IS NOT working in the offense?

for those holding hope on our oline - keep holding. parcells has spent 3-4 draft picks and a top FA on our OL and it's now worse than when he got here.

the game is won and lost at the lines and our line sucks and is very inconsistant. we've not rebuilt it and the players we've gotten, petitti is arguably our best pick up so far and look what accolades he's getting from us "fans".

i DO see us starting again when parcells leaves simply because he's NOT growing the key positions of WR and QB. we've got parcells hand-me-downs we're stuck with until parcells leaves and takes them with him.

i LOVE having keyshawn on the team and at times HATE glenn simply because drew seems to focus on glenn at the cost of some wide open kj opportunities. glenn has been a good wr for us, but crayton? a 7th round pick is gonna replace kj? wishful thinking, and i'm hoping too - but we're NOT doing anything to do much more than get people who can "compete" for #3 wr and maybe #3 qb.

yes, in a few years when parcells is done playing it will be time to pick a direction and built to it, not just lob some old timers there and call it "planning"

glenn, kj and bledsoe are exactly what they are - patches, not growth.

 

[iceberg]

Nonsense.

We already have two running backs, a TE, and a youngster who can be a #2 WR in place. Its not going to take 3 years to shore up the O-Line, and add another WR.

The only question is the QB, which I suspect is the whole point of this, but even Parcells has said he's not settled with the QB spot.

And with the right supporting cast you can win with Bledsoe. He's better than Dilfer or Johnson.

then he should play another qb when he can, shouldn't he?

as for winning with bledsoe, then why has no one done it yet, parcells included?

 

[rcaldw]

Hmmmm, it appears we suspect the same thing. Agendas....yummy, LOL.

There is no agenda. Believe me, I have no problem speaking exactly what I believe. I'm on record here as a Henson supporter and a Bledsoe yawner. (Not against him by any stretch, and think he has performed better than expected, but that he is still a part of the problem not the ultimate solution)

So, if I have a QB thread I want to start, I know how to do it.

I'm telling you that you can check back with me in 5 years and if we keep our current course we will still be a team happy just to make the playoffs. I'm of the opinion that the Cowboys have patched at the most important position of a team for years now, and this will continue to cost them. This is not separate from Parcells. His belief is that the QB position is a bus driver position. Build a defense, have a company of adequate to better than adequate runners, get you a big tight end, and bus drive the thing. You are seeing the New York Giants in creation because that is what Parcells knows. Mark it down, I will be more than happy to be proven wrong, but this team will be in this same position or worse in 5 years.

 

[wileedog]

then he should play another qb when he can, shouldn't he?

as for winning with bledsoe, then why has no one done it yet, parcells included?

Why has no one ever won anything with Payton Manning?

 

[InmanRoshi]

Talk about people living in the past, those people ranting and raving that we need to build like 1989 again sound like my grandfather ranting and raving bout how he could walk down to the fountain shop and buy a sodie water for a nickel.


I dare anyone to find a Superbowl winnner in the past 5-7 years that stripped everything down and built from scratch using all players that they drafted and groomed. The first thing Belichick did when he took over was sign 11 veteran free agents to fill roles like Anthony Pleasant, Roman Phifer, Antoine Smith and Terrell Buckley. Maybe the Rams of 1999-2000, but even they were led by a "non-pedigree" QB.

 

[Sarge]

Why has no one ever won anything with Payton Manning?

I suspect you won't be asking that question a month from now.

 

[superpunk]

LOL....sodie water. Totally walked uphill both ways to get it, too, I bet.

 

[iceberg]

Why has no one ever won anything with Payton Manning?

heh, that's right, compare a qb on the rise to one on the decline and call it apples. sorry, i put my quarter way and i ain't buying this comparison. find me a few people who'd rather have drew than payton and you've got a start, but still a long long way to go.

 

[Sarge]

LOL....sodie water. Totally walked uphill both ways to get it, too, I bet.

He had to get the sodie water - he walked 15 miles to school everyday........and back.