eduncan22;1477213 said:
Yep. There is more..
- Passing on Blue Chip QB
Per
The Huddle Report:
[Hey, $9.95/year is a good investment. You should try it.]
Our highest draft needs (especially on Day 1) were: WR, OG & CB. Need at OG had been minimized somewhat with the acquisition of Leonard Davis. We had zero need at QB. It's a
luxury pick, not a need pick.
Let's be honest. There were only
two quarterbacks in this draft worthy of a
Day 1 pick from
this franchise: Russell & Quinn. Russell was long gone. Quinn WAS available.
Now, be real. Pretend YOU were a general manager with a low priority grade at quarterback, holding a #22 pick and a team with a HIGH priority grade at quarterback approaches you with a trade with: (a) a high second round pick this draft & (b) a first round pick the following year.
Do YOU accept that trade under the circumstances?
Moving on, now we're sitting at #36. Jones had (obviously) zero intentions of standing out of the first round. Already gone are Johnson, Ginn and you can't package a deal with the Chiefs (#23) or the Patriots (#24) [maybe YOU can/please explain HOW if YOU think so/what would YOU offer?] thus watching Bowe be taken off the board. Three high grade WRs are gone by #22, with Meacham and Jarrett (generally perceived first rounders) still available.
Understandably, Grubbs and Ugoh are dropping in the draft. After all, they are
g-u-a-r-d-s and not highly touted ones at that.
Revis, Hall and Ross are gone by #22. And over-rated Combine warrior, Houston, has been bypassed by teams with high CB needs and is falling down the charts out of the first round. Wright, which no team is willing to touch with Goodell looking over their shoulder, is dropping like a hot rock. While
some of us are willing to overlook the potential suspension or expulsion issue with Wright, most teams (and fans) do not and he's falling hard out of the first.
Note: Carolina is even more firmly entrenched at #25 after making an earlier trade with the Jets. That leaves the Eagles, who's priorities going into the draft were DT, LB, S and notWR (Meacham/the only realistic need target remaining in the first round) and interestingly enough,
DE... which takes us to YOUR next point...
eduncan22;1477213 said:
- Drafting another DE/OLB? when we already have Ware, Carp, and Ellis
I love Ellis. Always have, but can you tell me when has Ellis ever been a
speed rushing defensive end/linebacker? He never has been, you know. Add the fact that he is a front seven defensive player recovering from a serious injury which directly affects his
speed (hint! hint!) and mobility and you're going to have to (well, most people that is) consider that he may be more of a liability than an asset to your 3-4 defense.
That leaves Carpenter and Ware. Carpenter is versatile. James is not (as much as I may hate to admit it). Carpenter can play inside and outside. James can (questionably) play inside, but not outside. If the
need arises, Carpenter and Akoyele (sp?) can man the inside, right? If you agree, you now have a gaping HOLE at OLB, right? Factor in Ware, who demands double, and sometimes triple, teams. Question: where is your defensive front seven pressure coming from? Well, you could say "up the middle", but can you say that it's coming opposite of Ware?
Oh, I forgot. You're hinging everything on Ellis. Silly me.
Back to the draft...
Jones packages a deal with Philadelphia, moves back into the first round at #26. He has a choice:
Meacham. Or a guy who can fill a huge GAPING hole in his defensive front seven.
He has two older guys, Glenn and Owens, who had solid seasons, and Crayton as his top three receivers. Does a fear of injury to any of his WRs outweigh filling a huge GAPING hole in his defensive front seven?
Answer: hell no. You pick the highest rated/first round grade DE remaining on the board to fill the huge GAPING hole. Adams is long gone. Add Anderson, Carriker and Moss. Who's left?
Spencer, that's who. And since this isn't fantasy football, we end up not picking Quinn.
That's great general managing, imo.
eduncan22;1477213 said:
- Passing on all the Blue Chip DBs
I've already explained how Revis, Hall and Ross were gone by #22. Yes, CB was a primary need going into the draft, but do you trade UP to get CBs that were FALLING to you?
Peterson? Sure. Calvin Johnson? Sure, but were talking CB, right? CB? Nope, thank goodness. What would YOU have packaged to move up? Would the value of your package outweigh the fact that the secondary, which you're wishing to upgrade, was vulnerable to a passive defensive scheme which was degraded moreso by injury? Are the clips of Henry, which you posted recently, your
proof behind a move up for Revis, Hall or Ross? If so, Ellis isn't the only person around here without a leg to stand on.
Houston and Wright were the only DBs left at #22. We left #22 and fell to #36. We had no intention of staying at #36, but
if we had, guess what? Houston and Wright were there, right? Why? Why did they fall solidly OUT of the first round?
Would THAT question overrule the need to trade BACK into the first for either a first-round WR or
DE? C'mon, Mr. GM. Give me something here. The remaining blue chip DBs were falling like hot rocks and let's be honest. Only
Cleveland was the only team willing to gamble on Wright before the end of the second round if you have been paying attention to current events. Hint: Adam Jones. Hint: Chris Henry. Your desire for Wright was only superseded by that of Cleveland. Your blue chip pick was from a minority viewpoint in the NFL--which doesn't stand for "
National
Fantasy
League".
eduncan22;1477213 said:
We HAD second round picks. We USED them in packages for (a) top DE and (b) a projected solid offensive lineman. We didn't use the #36 or #53 picks on Wright, who Goodell might end up throwing out the League if he messes up again. What value would the "second round picks" be then?
eduncan22;1477213 said:
This tells me they are happy with Henry and A Glenn [two of the biggest problems last season in the secondary]
It tells me they believe that more pressure on the QB = more hurries = more QB miscues = more turnovers for our present CBs to take advantage of.
Well, whaddaya know? We drafted Spencer to apply QB pressure opposite of Ware.
Let's make a deal. If Ware and Spencer are on the field, and you don't see 'improvement' from Glenn and Henry, record new clips and post them on the forum. You'll have plenty to crow about then, but with a more aggressive pass rush scheme being installed, along with Ware and Spencer demanding one-on-one protection...
...I doubt that you'll have many clips to post, but that's just me, I guess.
eduncan22;1477213 said:
We gotta see something today.
We already have. You griped afterwards. What are the odds that you'll gripe later today if we make the same type of moves as yesterday? I say that the odds are PRETTY high.
