This year sucked but I really don't think this team is anywhere near as bad they appear

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I think he was for it.

OK. Its good to have an opinion. I think the opposite. We should both be able to agree that he has been hamstrung as a coach. He didn't want to give up play calling duty and Jones assigned Callahan as play caller before finally letting him choose Linehan.

As for Hardy, it wouldn't be the first time that a coach was overridden by Jerry. Remember that Parcels did not want T.O here. Bottom line. It will not matter who the coach is. He will never have 100% control. Due to that, having the right people surrounding JJ and a coach who inspires others to play hard is important.
 

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OK. Its good to have an opinion. I think the opposite. We should both be able to agree that he has been hamstrung as a coach. He didn't want to give up play calling duty and Jones assigned Callahan as play caller before finally letting him choose Linehan.

As for Hardy, it wouldn't be the first time that a coach was overridden by Jerry. Remember that Parcels did not want T.O here. Bottom line. It will not matter who the coach is. He will never have 100% control. Due to that, having the right people surrounding JJ and a coach who inspires others to play hard is important.

Taking the play calling from Red was a no brainer IMO.
 

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Taking the play calling from Red was a no brainer IMO.

Well then, you can't give him the blame for the offense since he is a "walk around head coach." You can blame Linehan for not being creative. However, no one complained last year when we executed our offense. Problem was with the players (particularly back up QB's). Hard to win if you can't execute. Also, Terrence Williams has played horrible this year.
 

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Broncos did the right thing, drafted for this very reason. Hope we do too.
Likewise it's time they get this one right because Romo is one more injury away from his career being over and it would suck going through another decade almost trying to find Tony's replacement like they did post Aikman until Tony came along but it's going to be very interesting to see how this thing plays out.
 

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Ya know, I'm not ignorant to the point that I will say Garrett is the greatest coach in the NFL, but the blast on him is just ridiculous. This team has had far too much circumstance from the offseason to the regular season. You lose your star RB who was a few plays from beating the all time record, you lose a QB who was an MVP candidate, and you lose the #1 WR in TD receptions for the past 3 years. You throw in your best CB, defensive suspensions and up and down injuries and you get what you see. You can't expect to win a foot race with bad ankles. It's possible, sure, but highly improbable.

What was Garrett's excuse the other 3 non playoff years?

I tend to judge a coach off his full body of work and I see 5 complete seasons with 4 of those seasons we are sitting home come playoff time

That is 80% of the time failing to make the postseason. At what point does a coach actually have to win games?
 

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Contrary to the OP's subject line, I think this team is exactly as bad as they seem. Just as Bill Parcells used to explain, "a team is just as bad as their record indicates."

Regardless of any excuses that might be applied, whether it's front office miscues or otherwise that are the cause, this team responded to it's overall failures likewise.
 
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So let's review.

This team was pegged as one of the favorites coming out of the blocks. Lots of pundits pointed to Dallas to take the next step.

The draft - still - was very exceptional, as a whole and for this team especially.

All signs pointed up. But then...

1. Dallas made a serious mistake in allowing a play maker to walk. Regardless of the nonsense about his petulant behavior. NEWS FLASH - all play makers want the ball and gripe about it when they don't get it.
2. They allowed a pimple of a contract problem with a true man-child fester into a boil where the man-child stopped working out. He needs structure and repetition and the brain trust allowed that to become a distraction.
3. They had no plan for the possibility of their best player sitting out games.
4. They continued to "train" a head coach that hasn't shown the ability to manufacture wins by his creative coaching, nor inspiring his troops to play to their max.
5. Skeletor still is in charge, and his evil spawn is next in line.

You win when you can, prepare for the worst, and expect your leaders to lead without being fettered by one of the Great Unwashed, even if he does own the team.

This franchise is the joke they think we are.
 

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Well I had high expectations in fact I made a good chunk of change on this team in Vegas

That said when you go from 12-4 to likely 4-12 there's bigger issues than just losing a player

They decoded Linehans offense if there's one change we have to make it's right there. the rest will take care of itself. He's had too many failures on 3rd and short and why he inexplicably quits running the ball and starts passing when were ripping off 6-7 yard runs at a clip.

If/when we draft a big arm quarterback they can take this dink and dunk offense and stuff it along with its architect
Oh yea, red has to complete a course in clock management 101. If we take a knee with more than 30 seconds left in the half again I'll explode. As you were.
 

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I did not.

Brady goes down and Cassel fills in and makes the Pro Bowl. He comes here and looks like garbage.

Weeden comes here and looks like crap but goes to Houston and is an adequate replacement.

We have a serious coaching problem here.

But NE didn't make the playoffs that year
 

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Simple fact: Had this team been even average in talent, it would be closing in on an 8-8 record.

But you are not stupid, just wrong.
Denial, lad, is a sad thing. Say it, just say it: This team sucked all season. From offense to defense to special teams.
Sure, take out the QB and it will have an impact. But this much? Other teams when lose their QB, they level off in wins, but not to the extend the Cowboys did.
This team really, really sucked. Our reward awaits in the draft pecking order.

Yep top 10 is really sucking
 

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What was Garrett's excuse the other 3 non playoff years?

I tend to judge a coach off his full body of work and I see 5 complete seasons with 4 of those seasons we are sitting home come playoff time

That is 80% of the time failing to make the postseason. At what point does a coach actually have to win games?

You can't blame the failures of an entire organization on Garrett. It's starts from the top. Realistically we wouldn't be having this conversation if Romo and Dez were 100% all season. It took Belichick 5 seasons to have a winning record when he first started head coaching. It only took Red 4. Am I only one that sees how far this franchise has come in just the past few years? Developing young talent, evaluating the draft better and not making bone headed financial decisions? It's all coming to a head, and I believe Garrett has a good chance in being a part of that. We've had a long string of crap luck. Heck, if we had this defense last year, we'd be holding a trophy.
 

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You can't blame the failures of an entire organization on Garrett. It's starts from the top. Realistically we wouldn't be having this conversation if Romo and Dez were 100% all season. It took Belichick 5 seasons to have a winning record when he first started head coaching. It only took Red 4. Am I only one that sees how far this franchise has come in just the past few years? Developing young talent, evaluating the draft better and not making bone headed financial decisions? It's all coming to a head, and I believe Garrett has a good chance in being a part of that. We've had a long string of crap luck. Heck, if we had this defense last year, we'd be holding a trophy.

Garrett is the biggest CORRECTABLE problem with this team. People complaining about Jerry are silly because he isn't going anywhere but he may wise up and correct the mistake he made in hiring Garrett and the even bigger one he made extending him. Don't get me wrong about Jerry, he is a problem(look no further than him thinking Garrett is a good coach for proof) but he is not going anywhere so if you root for the team you almost have to accept him.
 

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You can't blame the failures of an entire organization on Garrett. It's starts from the top. Realistically we wouldn't be having this conversation if Romo and Dez were 100% all season. It took Belichick 5 seasons to have a winning record when he first started head coaching. It only took Red 4. Am I only one that sees how far this franchise has come in just the past few years? Developing young talent, evaluating the draft better and not making bone headed financial decisions? It's all coming to a head, and I believe Garrett has a good chance in being a part of that. We've had a long string of crap luck. Heck, if we had this defense last year, we'd be holding a trophy.

You must be trolling the board. First, Bellichick won 11 games his 4th season. And he had to win with Kosar, Mike Tomczak, Testaverde, Mark Rypien, Tod Philcox and Eric Zeier (whoever the heck the last 2 are). Garrett had the benefit of having the guy that will end up breaking all the passer ratings/records of the franchise which includes 2 HOF QB's.

And while your at it, take another look at the draft and tell me again how we've drafted so well and all this talent that he's developed.
 

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You can't blame the failures of an entire organization on Garrett. It's starts from the top. Realistically we wouldn't be having this conversation if Romo and Dez were 100% all season. It took Belichick 5 seasons to have a winning record when he first started head coaching. It only took Red 4. Am I only one that sees how far this franchise has come in just the past few years? Developing young talent, evaluating the draft better and not making bone headed financial decisions? It's all coming to a head, and I believe Garrett has a good chance in being a part of that. We've had a long string of crap luck. Heck, if we had this defense last year, we'd be holding a trophy.

Did you forget that Garrett was hired before Wade Phillips? He was the assistant head coach and basically had full reign of the offense under Phillips. He was a part of the problem.
 

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You can't blame the failures of an entire organization on Garrett. It's starts from the top. Realistically we wouldn't be having this conversation if Romo and Dez were 100% all season. It took Belichick 5 seasons to have a winning record when he first started head coaching. It only took Red 4. Am I only one that sees how far this franchise has come in just the past few years? Developing young talent, evaluating the draft better and not making bone headed financial decisions? It's all coming to a head, and I believe Garrett has a good chance in being a part of that. We've had a long string of crap luck. Heck, if we had this defense last year, we'd be holding a trophy.

See how far this franchise has come under Garrett?

I see a team that loses its starting QB and turns into possibly the worst team in the entire league. If we had all this young talent you speak of, wouldn't we be able to win more than one game, and even that game was only won because the other team handed it to use on a silver platter. (see Washington and Desean Jackson).

So to answer your question, yes............I think you might be the only one on this board to think like this.
 
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