This year sucked but I really don't think this team is anywhere near as bad they appear

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this is a bad team with a bad coaching staff. you are what your record says you are.

I agree. Denial is not a river in Egypt. So far we are the 4th worst team in the league. There's only three teams that are worse than us. Of course we're still in contention for the 1st pick overall which is a strong possibility.
 

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You simply can't have a discussion around here without responses like "Coaching staff sucks fire everyone".

It's getting tiresome and boring. Every. Single.Thread.
 

DandyDon1722

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Were middle of the road in talent. We have *other* problems, that wont just......................stand down.

I would even say, outside of a few guys, are talent level is slightly below average.

I thought the OL couldve been something more, and they still might, they are still young. But they may develop into something that is strong. but with our "luck" or is it planning(?), it will be after Romo is gone.

I think earlier in the season you are right about the offensive line but they have been pretty good lately and dominated the best run defense in the league last week.

Secondary is well below average and the run garment is suspect going into next year and I think outside of Dez receivers are below average but other than that we are above average virtually everywhere else. FA and the he draft will greatly improve on those positions.

4-10 is not an accurate assessment of the team without Romo.

12-4 with him might not be either but it's probably somewhere around 10-6 and in the East that could be good enough.
 

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This reminds me of the guys that put an ad on craigslist selling a car that just needs a lil TLC and then you look at the pics

wrecked-car-8.jpg

Ok, maybe I under stated it just a tad. This prob better portrays our season

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Point differential is a very important metric when it comes to projecting a team's immediate future.... Our losses have been minute.

The point differential in 50% of the wins has been minute also. The Cowboys, with Romo, squeaked one out against the Giants by 1 point in the opener and they won by 3 vs Washington.

The point differential in the games Romo started was just +2.

Small sample size I know (just 25% of the games), however, that point differential is more indicative of a 8-8 team than anything else.
 

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The point differential in 50% of the wins has been minute also. The Cowboys, with Romo, squeaked one out against the Giants by 1 point in the opener and they won by 3 vs Washington.

The point differential in the games Romo started was just +2.

Small sample size I know (just 25% of the games), however, that point differential is more indicative of a 8-8 team than anything else.

That's too small of a size to judge upon that. Especially when we look at the point differential from last year when we had a healthy Romo and Dez.

The fact that we are barely losing games with Weeden/Cassel at QB along with the point differential in the previous 20 games before Weeden started...gives a bigger indication that this team is more than an 8-8 team with Romo and Dez healthy.






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mattjames2010

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When thats where it all starts and ends there isnt much else to say bro

The first thing needed is to recognize the problem.

Or you guys simply have trouble evaluating other problems? This is mob-like mentality, it's emotion.

2014 - Garrett is loved, Jerry Jones is owner of the year
2015 - Garret sucks and should be gone, Jerry Jones is a cancer

It's not productive and it's exactly why the rant zone was created. It just won't stop.
 

KJJ

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With a top tier QB none the less.

Having a top tier QB during the clapping red robots tenure is even more reason he needs to go. Romo only missed one game during the 8-8 seasons and the Cowboys missed the playoffs each year. Despite Romo missing most of this season the team has only managed one win with their backup QBs. One of the worse losses the Cowboys had this season was with Romo.

Brandon Weeden won games with Cleveland and just won a game with Houston after only being with them a few weeks but he could never win a game with the Cowboys. Belichick won 11 games with Cassel who even led the Chiefs to the playoffs in 2010 but looked worse with the Cowboys than any team he's played with.

The Cowboys have had players who they let go like Dwayne Harris, Andre Holmes and Marty B who've contributed more to other teams than they did with the Cowboys. Until Jerry gets fed up enough to bring in a solid head coach disappointing seasons will continue to be the norm.
 

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These are professional football teams. Even the rest of the bottom feeders have some great players on their team at different positions. The key is how they play as a team and what schemes are run and what do they do best in order to develop game plans for the TEAM to succeed. That is all on the coaches. Getting personnel that reflects the team strengths and may upgrade their weaknesses is also essential along with coaching up their average players. The coaches and the FO have failed in that regard.

Heck even Jerry was sober enough for a minute to indicate they failed getting a suitable backup QB and also questioned the coaching staff and himself------of course, its easy to do when there are no consequences involved. Defending Garrett at this point is useless and just makes you look foolish. Last year was the anomaly, this team led by this coach is just a .500 team at best and as usual find themselves on the outside looking in when playoffs arrive.
 

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The Cowboys seem to have the same problem every year regardless of record. Every team in the league has weaknesses and holes to fill in the offseason, Dallas is no different. I can't remember an offseason around here where the Cowboys didn't have 8-9 major needs to fill. It would be nice to go into an offseason where you needed 3-4 pieces, makes the FA plan and draft so much easier.

The way I see it, the Cowboys need a backup qb, a #1 RB, 1 safety (presuming Jones is a FS), at least 2 corners, a 1 tech, another rotational DE (even if Hardy is here), 1 LB at least (2, if McCain isn't here), a speed WR, and probably a backup G/C. Its a never ending cycle. Yes, the coaching has been abysmal, but talent and those acquiring it still remains the largest obstacle to sustained success.
 

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You simply can't have a discussion around here without responses like "Coaching staff sucks fire everyone".

It's getting tiresome and boring. Every. Single.Thread.

No more tiresome than hearing about how hard we've been playing in a 4 and 12 season. Or how this is Garrett's first losing season. Or about how he's built this team for long term success. It works both ways.
 

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Yea this year sucked but... I really don't think this team is anywhere near as bad they appear. Most positions on this team look like we have a capable person filling it, the entire o-line, WR, the d-line looks to be really good (especially DE), our LBs when healthy are some of the best in the league, and even our secondary is looking better than I thought possible when the season began (coming in at 6 in passing yards per game, and no we haven't been blown out that much so it's not that teams are giving up on their pass game). If we score 3 more points in each of our games, we are in the playoff race, we score a TD more, we are 10-4... try telling me Romo doesn't make that much difference.

We need a few more tools on defense (and hopefully get Hardy and McClain back), we need a new RB to go with McFadden (who has surprised me this year), and most of all we need a guy capable of coming in for Romo when he takes his annual sabbatical. This is a lot like the 2011 Colts or even last years Vikings, we are missing that one guy that the whole game revolves around, but we will be back next year better than ever (with that being said, who knows if I will watch anymore professional football between now and the Super Bowl). *Puts on flame proof vest* okay tell me how wrong and stupid I am, I am ready.

I've likened Jerry Jones teams to Bob Bass' teams at the Spurs and Hornets. It's a veneer of competence. A facade covering the thin and brittle core. A group of starters you can sell season ticket holders with no depth.

We have Dez, Romo, and Witten. Aren't we so talented?

Fool's gold. We need more and better.
 

mattjames2010

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No more tiresome than hearing about how hard we've been playing in a 4 and 12 season. Or how this is Garrett's first losing season. Or about how he's built this team for long term success. It works both ways.

Yes, because those threads are made so much that it's even remotely close than the countless threads and warnings people are getting for the same post over and over about Jason Garrett needing to be fired.

Yes, so comparable.
 
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Yes, because are made so much that it's even remotely close than the countless threads and warnings people are getting for the same post over and over about Jason Garrett needing to be fired.

Yes, so comparable.

Well, when someone posts or starts a thread about how well Jason has done or how unlucky he is or how Bellichick, Landry or HOF coach "X" started his coaching career in similar fashion, etc. you just may get some push back in a 4 and 10 season. Just saying.
 

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I think they are an 8-8 team. 12-4 in 2014 - things really broke for them, 4-10 or 4-12 this year gives them balance I guess.

8-8
 

KJJ

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The Cowboys are what they appear to be not a very good team because this is the 4th season in Garrett's 5 year tenure the team will miss the playoffs with a non winning season. The Cowboys were unable to validate last season which was obviously a fluke and returned to the same team we saw prior to 2014. We've seen the same pattern we saw during the 8-8 seasons of finding ways to lose games in the second half/4th quarter.
 
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