Thoughts on Romo and Why I said it

[utrunner07]

Since everyone wanted to jump in and bash me on the game thread I figured I might as well start an actual thread to give the zone another chance to do the same, or perhaps a chance to see what I was saying.

I'll be the first to tell you Romo had a great game today. He is the best QB here since Aikman.

I do not believe that Romo has it in him to take this team to a super bowl.

I do believe that Romo will have GREAT games, make Great plays, win lots of games and take us to he playoffs.

The only problem is I see Romo making the same mistakes over and over again and at critical times during the game. Turning the ball over in the redzone, throwing deep ball picks (hey they are as good as a punt right?), throwing the ball into triple coverage...those types of things. He made some of those same mistakes in today's game early in the first half. Which is what led to my original statement. It just does not seem to me that he has been able to take some of these mistakes out of his game.

I know all QBs are going to make these types of mistakes, but Romo seems to make them at critical times (ie. the big December Games and the playoffs). Most of the QBs who take their team to a Super Bowl don't do this.

Now...could Romo take the Patriots to a Super Bowl, probably. Are there many QBs who could take this team to a Super Bowl, probably not. But in order for this team to go to a super bowl Romo needs to take out these mistakes and step it up one more level (the top level of QBs, I would say only P Manning, Brady, and maybe one or two more are better). This team is not solid enough for Romo to be making those types of mistakes and get into a super bowl.

Sure Romo is going to have games like today, and I loved his game today, fun to watch, games like he had against TB on thanksgiving a few years back, but he is also going to have games like he did against Philly last year, against NY two years ago, games like Buffalo 2007, Games like Cinci last year....

To me (and I am not the first to make this comparison so I don't know why today I get bashed for saying it) Romo is Danny White, he will have great stats, he will have great games, he will set records, he just does not have quiet what it takes to get THIS team to a Superbowl. A lot of you are right though, there are no better options, because 1) he is pretty dang good most of the time and 2) better QBs are rare and hard to find. So IMO, we stick with him and just hope that we can improve the team around him.

So, I hope I am wrong. I am not a troll, I have no agenda, I don't think I am overly pessimistic on most things (though maybe I am). I have been a Cowboys fan since I was born. I have not missed a Cowboys game in years. I look foward to the game all week, and I always hope for nothing for the best for the team and the players. Shoot, I even have an autographed picture of Tony Romo playing against Carolina his first full game, framed and hanging in my living room. I hope I am wrong, but as of right now, I don't think he has what it will take to take this team to a Superbowl.

 

[EMMITSWIFT]

Great Post ! Couldnt Have Said It Better .

 

[theogt]

The real travesty here is that you actually think anyone gives a crap if you don't like Romo.

 

[Dallas]

The real travesty here is that you actually think anyone gives a crap if you don't like Romo.

True....







True...

 

[Eddie]

Unfortunately, there are probably 2-3 QB's in the NFC better than Romo.

We're pretty lucky to have him.

 

[followthestar]

There is no "who's right or wrong" here - we all just have our opinions. I personally think Romo and the Boys will indeed win it all - if not this year, then the next, or the next. It's just a matter of time - Romo IS that good. That's my opinion, and I don't need to defend it. Its just there...

 

[lwehlers]

Since everyone wanted to jump in and bash me on the game thread I figured I might as well start an actual thread to give the zone another chance to do the same, or perhaps a chance to see what I was saying.

I'll be the first to tell you Romo had a great game today. He is the best QB here since Aikman.

I do not believe that Romo has it in him to take this team to a super bowl.

I do believe that Romo will have GREAT games, make Great plays, win lots of games and take us to he playoffs.

The only problem is I see Romo making the same mistakes over and over again and at critical times during the game. Turning the ball over in the redzone, throwing deep ball picks (hey they are as good as a punt right?), throwing the ball into triple coverage...those types of things. He made some of those same mistakes in today's game early in the first half. Which is what led to my original statement. It just does not seem to me that he has been able to take some of these mistakes out of his game.

I know all QBs are going to make these types of mistakes, but Romo seems to make them at critical times (ie. the big December Games and the playoffs). Most of the QBs who take their team to a Super Bowl don't do this.

Now...could Romo take the Patriots to a Super Bowl, probably. Are there many QBs who could take this team to a Super Bowl, probably not. But in order for this team to go to a super bowl Romo needs to take out these mistakes and step it up one more level (the top level of QBs, I would say only P Manning, Brady, and maybe one or two more are better). This team is not solid enough for Romo to be making those types of mistakes and get into a super bowl.

Sure Romo is going to have games like today, and I loved his game today, fun to watch, games like he had against TB on thanksgiving a few years back, but he is also going to have games like he did against Philly last year, against NY two years ago, games like Buffalo 2007, Games like Cinci last year....

To me (and I am not the first to make this comparison so I don't know why today I get bashed for saying it) Romo is Danny White, he will have great stats, he will have great games, he will set records, he just does not have quiet what it takes to get THIS team to a Superbowl. A lot of you are right though, there are no better options, because 1) he is pretty dang good most of the time and 2) better QBs are rare and hard to find. So IMO, we stick with him and just hope that we can improve the team around him.

So, I hope I am wrong. I am not a troll, I have no agenda. I have been a Cowboys fan since I was born. I have not missed a Cowboys game in years. I look foward to the game all week, and I always hope for nothing for the best for the team and the players. Shoot, I even have an autographed picture of Tony Romo playing against Carolina his first full game, framed and hanging in my living room. I hope I am wrong, but as of right now, I don't think he has what it will take to take this team to a Superbowl.

i think tony played great today in different spots in the game. the problem i have is with garrett. when he sees romo struggling at times is when he needs to stop all of the stupid pass plays and just run the ball so tony can settle down. romo probaly should have thrown two picks today but he did not. he seemed to do a good job of protecting the ball in pockett today. that pass to williams was just a perfectly thrown pass.

 

[utrunner07]

The real travesty here is that you actually think anyone gives a crap if you don't like Romo.

Well read the game thread, apparently a lot of people did because they sure were quick to jump on it.

And I do like Romo.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Wow! I didn't realise Romo had some INT's today.

 

[TonyRomo#9]

Well Troy Aikmen disagrees with you, he has said Romo will, or should win superbowls... i think ill take the HOF quarterbacks opinion over yours..

 

[InmanRoshi]

After a failed 3rd down conversion in the 1st quarter, you tripped all over yourself to declare that th e Cowboys would not even "sniff" a Superbowl without a better QB. Declaring the Cowboys wouldn't even "sniff" a Superbowl without a better QB is not the same as "Oh he's a great QB, he just has some holes in a game."

After Romo puts up a 140 QB rating, you've now revised your position to "Oh yeah, he's a great QB. I never said he wasn't. I don't know if the Cowboys can win a Superbowl with him because he makes some bad along with the great".

Nice backtracking. Way to go out on a limb by sticking with 1 in 32 odds. Real risk taker nature you got there.


You jumped in the 1st quarter after 1 blunder, not even waiting to see the entire results. Now after you look like a fool you want fans to get the entirity and nuance of you argument? Something tells me if Romo put up a 50 QB rating today you wouldn't be that concerned with "nuance" or a "wait and see" approach to the regular season.

By the way, do you want to denounce TO as a complete and utter washed up fraud now or later?

 

[tecolote]

Great post.


Just kidding, it was a horrible post.

 

[stiletto]

People who bash the original poster of this thread are smacktards. Everyone should have a right to discuss/critique/praise the players on the team. I do not see where the poster slammed Romo. He stated his opinion and everyone should be allowed to have an opinion on the players and not just automatically have to praise them because they have a star on their helmet. Romo deserves praise for hanging in there today and battling back. Let's all talk again in Nov/December and see where we are. If he deserves praise, he will get it. If he deserves to be bashed for his play, he should be. Objectiveness should rule.

 

[Oldschool7]

Romo does have some things to prove in December.

But let's be clear. The Cowboys haven't played well in December in DECADES. Even the Jimmy Johnson Cowboys didn't play well in December.

The bigtime swoons were very evident in seasons before Romo came. Go look at the facts.

Tony IS responsible to play better in the crunch month. He is the leader and so he is perhaps MOST responsible. But let's not make him the scapegoat for a team and organizational issue.

 

[Dallas]

After a failed 3rd down conversion, in game, you said the Cowboys would not even "sniff" a Superbowl without a better QB.

After Romo puts up a 140 QB rating, you've now revised your position to "Oh yeah, he's a great QB, but I don't know if the Cowboys can win a Superbowl with him because he makes some bad along with the great".

Nice backtracking. You jumped in the 1st quarter after 1 blunder, not even waiting to see the entire results. Now after you look like a fool you want fans to get the entirity and of nuance of you argument? Something tells me if Romo put up a 50 QB rating today you wouldn't be that concerned with "nuance".

By the way, do you want to denounce TO as a complete and utter fraud now or later?

Git him Inman. You get that OP.

You have to give it to the Bucs D. They were giving Dallas all it could handle.

Our OL needs to get NASTY in the trenches. They have to start MAULING people.

The pass protection was so so.

Romo did take a wee bit to get into rythym. He wasn't his accurate self in the 1st half. Some of those passes were overthrown and thrown behind the intended receiver.


FYI: 1st year of Superfan for me.


LOVE IT :

 

[zrinkill]

Well Troy Aikmen disagrees with you, he has said Romo will, or should win superbowls... i think ill take the HOF quarterbacks opinion over yours..

After a failed 3rd down conversion in the 1st quarter, you tripped all over yourself to declare that th e Cowboys would not even "sniff" a Superbowl without a better QB.

After Romo puts up a 140 QB rating, you've now revised your position to "Oh yeah, he's a great QB. I never said he wasn't. I don't know if the Cowboys can win a Superbowl with him because he makes some bad along with the great".

Nice backtracking. Way to go out on a limb by sticking with 1 in 32 odds. Real risk taker nature you got there.

 

[utrunner07]

After a failed 3rd down conversion in the 1st quarter, you tripped all over yourself to declare that th e Cowboys would not even "sniff" a Superbowl without a better QB. Declaring the Cowboys wouldn't even "sniff" a Superbowl without a better QB is not the same as "Oh he's a great QB, he just has some holes in a game."

I made my statement after he nearly through a pick trying to force the ball. It had nothing to do with a failed 3rd down conversion. And your right in my original post I did not feel the need to post about how great Romo is. It was the game thread, the game was on and I did not feel the need to create an in depth post explaining the ins and outs of my opinion on the matter. Once I was jumped I tried to then.

 

[Jimz31]

Wow...sounds just like a fan of the Colts that I know....same with a Giants fan that I also know.

They said the exact same things that you are saying.

Football is a TEAM sport....not ONE QB in the history of the NFL has done it by himself....I takes a good O-line to get to the next level. Eli had that.

Dilfer? He had a defense to help him along....McMahon....same thing.

I could go on and on about this.

It seems to me that in the past, the coaching staff has relied soooo much on Romo getting it done and guess what, for the most part he has....look at his record.....weird that the only ones that get a W/L record are the HC's and the QB's....but that is the way it is. There are reasons that the best QB's and coaches in the NFL don't win it every year....some of them don't even make it to the playoffs every year.....it's a TEAM sport.

 

[InmanRoshi]

It speaks volumes how loudly Tony Romo has spoiled fans with phenomenal play that a player with a career 90+ rating QB is guilty until proven innocent in game threads, and that the rare occasional bad throw sticks out when even great NFL QBs only complete 60% of their passes.

Troy Aikman wouldn't be considered a HOF caliber QB under this team by some of your standards.

 

[stiletto]

It speaks volumes how loudly Tony Romo has spoiled fans with phenomenal play that a player with a career 90+ rating QB is guilty until proven innocent in game threads, and that the rare occasional bad throw sticks out when even great NFL QBs only complete 60% of their passes.

Troy Aikman wouldn't be considered a HOF caliber QB under this team by some of your standards.

How are Romo's numbers in December/January where it REALLY counts? Let's see him mirror the reg season stats during that time before crowning him. This is beating dead horse stuff. I love Romo's regular season ability, who doesn't?? After Thanksgiving, it gets a little big for Romo so far. This cannot be denied...