Thoughts on Romo and Why I said it

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stiletto;2938017 said:
How are Romo's numbers in December/January where it REALLY counts? Let's see him mirror the reg season stats during that time before crowning him. This is beating dead horse stuff. I love Romo's regular season ability, who doesn't?? After Thanksgiving, it gets a little big for Romo so far. This cannot be denied...

And if Patrick Crayton catches balls that hit him right in the hands and Terry Glenn doesn't fumble balls on the 5 yard line, I guess that means Romo magically discovered "clutch" ability?


Maybe Romo just needs to be visited by the magical "clutch" fairy. Just like the magical "clutch" fairy visited Eli in the middle of the night and sprinkled magic "clutch" dust on him so he could singlehandedly will David Tyree to catch balls against his helmet. But then the magical "clutch" fairy stole Eli's magical clutch abilities away in the middle of the night before last year's playoffs. She's so fickle ... this magical "clutch" fairy.
 

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InmanRoshi;2938027 said:
And if Patrick Crayton catches balls that hit him right in the hands and Terry Glenn doesn't fumble balls on the 5 yard line, I guess that means Romo magically discovered "clutch" ability?


Maybe Romo just needs to be visited by the magical "clutch" fairy. Just like the magical "clutch" fairy visited Eli in the middle of the night and sprinkled magic "clutch" dust on him so he could singlehandedly will David Tyree to catch balls against his helmet. But then the magical "clutch" fairy stole Eli's magical clutch abilities away in the middle of the night before last year's playoffs. She's so fickle ... this magical "clutch" fairy.

:lmao2:

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stiletto;2938017 said:
How are Romo's numbers in December/January where it REALLY counts? Let's see him mirror the reg season stats during that time before crowning him. This is beating dead horse stuff. I love Romo's regular season ability, who doesn't?? After Thanksgiving, it gets a little big for Romo so far. This cannot be denied...

How many years was Payton Manning considered a playoff choker? Until he he won, and then he wasn't.

Should the Colts have dumped him and drafted a new QB the third time he lost in the playoffs because "he didn't have what it takes?"
 

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tecolote;2937931 said:
Great post.


Just kidding, it was a horrible post.

:lmao2:

I concur. Romo is the motherloving truth, and I'll roll with Troy Aikman's opinion on QB play infinitely more than that of the OP.

Great game, #9.
 

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What I'd really be interested in is the part in the game thread where you offered up a $10 bet about an impending interception. I read just enough to see where someone took you up on it.

Did you lose that bet, and do you intend on paying up?

Thank you for your time.
 

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It's befuddling that, after watching today's game, someone's primary concern would be Romo.

Romo showed legitimate progress today: He wasn't careless with the ball; he forced only one pass; and, he was judicious in his pass placement.

This isn't college, and the Cowboys aren't the Longhorns. Romo can't be expected to score on 90 percent of his drives against even the worst opponents.
 

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jackrussell;2938134 said:
What I'd really be interested in is the part in the game thread where you offered up a $10 bet about an impending interception. I read just enough to see where someone took you up on it.

Did you lose that bet, and do you intend on paying up?

Thank you for your time.

I did loose the bet and I have already had to pay up. I will be going with out dinner now.
 

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ScipioCowboy;2938170 said:
It's befuddling that, after watching today's game, someone's primary concern would be Romo.

Romo showed legitimate progress today: He wasn't careless with the ball; he forced only one pass; and, he was judicious in his pass placement.

This isn't college, and the Cowboys aren't the Longhorns. Romo can't be expected to score on 90 percent of his drives against even the worst opponents.

great post
 

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utrunner07;2938172 said:
I did loose the bet and I have already had to pay up. I will be going with out dinner now.

Just curious, when did you post this bet exactly? It wasn't in the 4th quarter in December was it? That's where the accusations and criticisms seem to stem, but it seems like you placed this bet in the 1st half of Week 1 in the season. Its seems rather rash and irrational.

Which seems strange because you're such a self proclaimed judicious and caustic skeptic of Romo's .... not an irrational "hater" by any means. Gosh no.
 

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Romo started out rough, and was a little worried about it at first, but then I came to realize that happens to a lot of QBs out there, especially the younger ones.
The thing about Romo is and I guess he always had it in ways is that he doesn't give up and he doesn't get rattled much. I have seen alot of QBs just suck it up when they start out sucking it up, but he pulled it together and cam out looking strong.
I do think you are wrong about him. I do think he will get to the superbowl and win it, but this team will have to do it as a team. Romo will not do it alone. That is not his game. He has all the talent you need to win it all, but no he will not win it all himself as very few QBs do and have in the past like John Elway, and that guy in New England can but thats ok, this is a team sport.
That is why T.O. is not here, and that is why spreading the ball around like Romo did today is Romo-Friendly and is better for the team. Selfishness does not win championships, teams do.
 

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utrunner07;2937888 said:
The only problem is I see Romo making the same mistakes over and over again and at critical times during the game. Turning the ball over in the redzone, throwing deep ball picks (hey they are as good as a punt right?), throwing the ball into triple coverage...those types of things. He made some of those same mistakes in today's game early in the first half. Which is what led to my original statement. It just does not seem to me that he has been able to take some of these mistakes out of his game.


Funny, I don't recall ANY of those mistakes today, perhaps you got Romo mixed up with another quarterback you were watching on a different game? There were no turnovers, red zone or otherwise. No deep ball picks, and no bad throws into triple coverage.

Romo wasn't great in the first half, but his problems had NOTHING to do with the crap you're spewing. His accuracy was a little off and that is the extent of it. PERIOD. The ONLY bad decision was the near pick on the sideline. That's it, just one. The other one that floated was not a bad decision, despite what you may have heard, Witten was wide open. Again, it just wasn't accurate and floated pretty bad, and it still wasn't intercepted. Anything other than a badly inaccurate pass there is either a huge gain, or incomplete with nobody anywhere close to intercepting the ball.

If you're going to criticize, please be accurate.
 

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InmanRoshi;2938199 said:
Just curious, when did you post this bet exactly? It wasn't in the 4th quarter in December was it? That's where the accusations and criticisms seem to stem, but it seems like you placed this bet in the 1st half of Week 1 in the season. Its seems rather rash and irrational.

Which seems strange because you're such a self proclaimed judicious and caustic skeptic of Romo's .... not an irrational "hater" by any means. Gosh no.


He disappeared like Keyser Söze after that question.
 

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InmanRoshi;2938199 said:
Just curious, when did you post this bet exactly? It wasn't in the 4th quarter in December was it? That's where the accusations and criticisms seem to stem, but it seems like you placed this bet in the 1st half of Week 1 in the season. Its seems rather rash and irrational.

Which seems strange because you're such a self proclaimed judicious and caustic skeptic of Romo's .... not an irrational "hater" by any means. Gosh no.

You've got this guy's number.:starspin
 

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InmanRoshi;2937928 said:
After a failed 3rd down conversion in the 1st quarter, you tripped all over yourself to declare that th e Cowboys would not even "sniff" a Superbowl without a better QB. Declaring the Cowboys wouldn't even "sniff" a Superbowl without a better QB is not the same as "Oh he's a great QB, he just has some holes in a game."

After Romo puts up a 140 QB rating, you've now revised your position to "Oh yeah, he's a great QB. I never said he wasn't. I don't know if the Cowboys can win a Superbowl with him because he makes some bad along with the great".

Nice backtracking. Way to go out on a limb by sticking with 1 in 32 odds. Real risk taker nature you got there.


You jumped in the 1st quarter after 1 blunder, not even waiting to see the entire results. Now after you look like a fool you want fans to get the entirity and nuance of you argument? Something tells me if Romo put up a 50 QB rating today you wouldn't be that concerned with "nuance" or a "wait and see" approach to the regular season.

By the way, do you want to denounce TO as a complete and utter washed up fraud now or later?

Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark.


As for the game...I don't recall him throwing any deep ball picks, any stupid picks, fumbling the ball, or throwing a bunch of dumb passes into triple coverage. Which means I don't recall him doing any of the same mistakes from the list you made.
 
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utrunner07;2937888 said:
Since everyone wanted to jump in and bash me on the game thread I figured I might as well start an actual thread to give the zone another chance to do the same, or perhaps a chance to see what I was saying.

I'll be the first to tell you Romo had a great game today. He is the best QB here since Aikman.

I do not believe that Romo has it in him to take this team to a super bowl.

I do believe that Romo will have GREAT games, make Great plays, win lots of games and take us to he playoffs.

The only problem is I see Romo making the same mistakes over and over again and at critical times during the game. Turning the ball over in the redzone, throwing deep ball picks (hey they are as good as a punt right?), throwing the ball into triple coverage...those types of things. He made some of those same mistakes in today's game early in the first half. Which is what led to my original statement. It just does not seem to me that he has been able to take some of these mistakes out of his game.

I know all QBs are going to make these types of mistakes, but Romo seems to make them at critical times (ie. the big December Games and the playoffs). Most of the QBs who take their team to a Super Bowl don't do this.

Now...could Romo take the Patriots to a Super Bowl, probably. Are there many QBs who could take this team to a Super Bowl, probably not. But in order for this team to go to a super bowl Romo needs to take out these mistakes and step it up one more level (the top level of QBs, I would say only P Manning, Brady, and maybe one or two more are better). This team is not solid enough for Romo to be making those types of mistakes and get into a super bowl.

Sure Romo is going to have games like today, and I loved his game today, fun to watch, games like he had against TB on thanksgiving a few years back, but he is also going to have games like he did against Philly last year, against NY two years ago, games like Buffalo 2007, Games like Cinci last year....

To me (and I am not the first to make this comparison so I don't know why today I get bashed for saying it) Romo is Danny White, he will have great stats, he will have great games, he will set records, he just does not have quiet what it takes to get THIS team to a Superbowl. A lot of you are right though, there are no better options, because 1) he is pretty dang good most of the time and 2) better QBs are rare and hard to find. So IMO, we stick with him and just hope that we can improve the team around him.

So, I hope I am wrong. I am not a troll, I have no agenda, I don't think I am overly pessimistic on most things (though maybe I am). I have been a Cowboys fan since I was born. I have not missed a Cowboys game in years. I look foward to the game all week, and I always hope for nothing for the best for the team and the players. Shoot, I even have an autographed picture of Tony Romo playing against Carolina his first full game, framed and hanging in my living room. I hope I am wrong, but as of right now, I don't think he has what it will take to take this team to a Superbowl.


great post!!! You just tell it like you see it. I wore my Romo jersey to work this past friday but doesn't mean I fully believe he can win in December/January.

The homers that only see thru silver and blue and not with realism and reality. The will be in denial again. Same story will write itself in December and this time Wade of JG will be the scapegoat. Then only after Bill, TO, Wade/JG have all left, we will all realize that he was the common denominator the entire time.
 

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Tony Romo 1-0 353 yards 3 td 0 int 0 fumbles

Brady Quinn 0-1 205 yards 1td 1int 1fumble
 

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SHAME ON YOU utrunner07! I stopped reading after you compared Tony Romo to Danny White. Danny was a good QB, but things just didn't go his way.

Tony is 10 times the QB as Danny. Ben wouldn't be where he is if he didn't have LeBeau and the Steelers D. Think about it before you go nuts. :rolleyes:
 
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