Tiki interview

[5Stars]

If you take it out of context it does. I think he explained that pretty well otherwise it would not have been forgiven so fast.

I don't think it was forgiven quickly...not until Roy broke his shoulder. Then it died down some, but, on a Cowboy board you are not going to hear much about that comment from #22

 

[ZeroClub]

IMO, Tiki Barber often comes off as a little too self-important. But then, very productive RBs often have inflated egos.

I don't have much of a reaction to what he said.

I'm just glad that he's retired. I think it is going to be very tough for the Giants to replace him. My guess is that their offense will struggle as a result.

 

[Rampage]

tiki=big mouth quiter

 

[5Stars]

tiki=big mouth quiter

Why is he a quiter when all this past year he said that he was going to retire while he was still healthy? Hate him, but, he does not owe the Giants anything...

He's actually pretty smart to get out while he is still healthy. Those running backs take a pounding! I've heard it said that it's like being in a car crash 25 to 30 times a day...

 

[Doomsday101]

Why is he a quiter when all this past year he said the he was going to retire while he was still healthy? Hate him, but, he does not owe the Giants anything...

He's actually pretty smart to get out while he is still healthy. Those running backs take a pounding! I've heard it said that it's like being in a car crash 25 to 30 times a day...

I agree. Tiki in my book is no quitter and funny thing is players get ragged on when their skills start to diminish and people complain how they are holding on to long for the pay check. Tiki left the game on his terms and was smart enough to put his college education to work after his football days were over. My hats off to Tiki and I'm glad we will not have to deal with him any longer.

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

Where in that comment is the shot at the coach?

My bad, you would need to read the whole article. He goes on and on about how everything was Caughlin's fault and that he made him work too hard etc. Read the article on espn.com if you haven't. I can post it if you want but it's on the front page.

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

I agree. Tiki in my book is no quitter and funny thing is players get ragged on when their skills start to diminish and people complain how they are holding on to long for the pay check. Tiki left the game on his terms and was smart enough to put his college education to work after his football days were over. My hats off to Tiki and I'm glad we will not have to deal with him any longer.

Same here, I think we all agree he was good and we are glad we don't have to play him twice a year... It's just a shame he took the opportunity to show his turdiness to the world (once again). It just really cracks me up when media talks about how "classy" Fumbelina is when in reality he has demonstrated time and time again he is not.

 

[Doomsday101]

My bad, you would need to read the whole article. He goes on and on about how everything was Caughlin's fault and that he made him work too hard etc. Read the article on espn.com if you haven't. I can post it if you want but it's on the front page.

I'll be sure to read it. I do know that Tiki had made some comments this past season and I felt he was wrong in airing out things to the media and other Giant players seemed to be doing the same thing. I will say for the most part I have respected Tiki as a ball player and a class act for most of his career and hold no ill feeling towards him.

 

[5Stars]

My bad, you would need to read the whole article. He goes on and on about how everything was Caughlin's fault and that he made him work too hard etc. Read the article on espn.com if you haven't. I can post it if you want but it's on the front page.

Well, Caughlin is well known for working his players hard, and, generally being a hard arse anyway! So what?

I'm sure there is no love lost between him and a whole hell of alot of players...

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2763247

Barber: Coughlin's demands pushed retirement


NEW YORK -- Tiki Barber spent part of his first day as a full-time media personality criticizing his former boss at his last day job.

Cruel to be Kind?
Tiki Barber gained nearly as many yards and scored nearly as many TDs in three years under Tom Coughlin as he did in seven seasons under Jim Fassel. Here's a comparison.
(* Yards, TDs are rushing only.)
Coach Jim Fassel
1997-2003 Tom Coughlin
2004-2006
Games 106 48
Starts 63 46
*Yards 5,409 5,040
*YPC 4.59 5.01
*TDs 28 27


Barber, who will work on NBC's "Today Show" and on the network's Sunday night football coverage, said his problems with New York Giants head coach Tom Coughlin had "started to take its toll on me" and that it was an "act of God' that the physical demands Coughlin placed on him did not result in serious injuries.

"Coach Coughlin is very hard-nosed, and I didn't get a lot of time off, couldn't sit down and rest myself, and so it was a constant grind -- a physical grind on me that started to take its toll," Barber told reporters Tuesday after his introduction as the newest correspondent of the "Today Show."


"The grind took its toll on me and really forced me to start thinking about what I wanted to do next. And that's not a bad thing. That's a good thing, for me at least. Maybe not for the Giants, because they lose one of their great players, but for me, it is," Barber said.

He spurned offers from Fox and ABC/Disney to take the NBC job.

"My dream has always been to be on the 'Today Show,' " Barber said.


Barber, 31, retired as a Pro Bowl running back, scoring a touchdown in the NFL all-star game last weekend. Barber and his disciplinarian coach had their rough patches, particularly when Barber said the Giants were outcoached after a playoff loss a season ago.

Barber said Coughlin's physical demands wore him down -- and that over time the coach came to understand that.


"There'd be days where I couldn't move on Tuesday or Wednesday at practice, and he'd get mad at me for going half-speed," Barber said. "And I told him, 'Coach, I can't do it. I'm gonna be out here, I'm never gonna miss a practice, but I can't give you what you want all the time.' And he understood."



"There'd be days where I couldn't move on Tuesday or Wednesday at practice, and he'd get mad at me for going half-speed. And I told him, 'Coach, I can't do it. I'm gonna be out here, I'm never gonna miss a practice, but I can't give you what you want all the time.' And he understood."
-- Tiki Barber on Tom Coughlin
"We were in full pads for 17 weeks, and with the amount of injuries that we had, it just takes a toll on you. You just physically don't want to be out there when your body feels the way you do in full pads," Barber told reporters. "And while it probably doesn't have a really detrimental effect on how you practice or how you play, it does on your mind. And if you lose your mind in this game, you lose a lot. And that's something that [Coughlin] has to realize. And I think he does [now]."

Barber acknowledged that he had some of his best seasons under Coughlin, and that he might not have done so without him. But he still thinks Coughlin needs to change his approach.

"He has changed in little ways, but I think he still has to more," Barber said. "The game has changed, players are different, and you have to understand them and get to know them in order to encourage and motivate them to be successful. We'll see what happens this season."

Barber laid the groundwork for a broadcasting career while still active in the NFL. He was a correspondent for the Fox News Channel morning program "Fox & Friends," and has two programs on Sirius Satellite Radio, one on general topics and another on football that he does with his twin brother, Ronde Barber of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Few other novice broadcasters would get such a lavish introduction to their new business: a news conference attended by NBC Universal President and Chief Executive Jeff Zucker, the presidents of NBC News and Sports, and "Today" co-host Matt Lauer.

Zucker compared Barber to Joe Garagiola, another "Today" personality with a sports background, and former Giants star and longtime broadcaster Frank Gifford.

Barber "pops through the screen" and is incredibly popular with women, who make up the bulk of the "Today Show" audience, Zucker said.

"He's incredibly handsome, he's incredibly charming, he's incredibly personable and he's incredibly smart," he said, "and that's a rare quality."

NBC News President Steve Capus also said Barber came with a backup.

"On those days when you're not feeling well, we'll just call Tampa Bay and get your brother," Capus said.

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

Well, Caughlin is well known for working his players hard, and, generally being a hard arse anyway! So what?

I'm sure there is no love lost between him and a whole hell of alot of players...

Yeah, but you don't hear them crying about it and throwing him under the bus so fast it would make your head spin! Most of them sack up and do their job. It just really shows his true colors and how much character he really has (or lack there of).

 

[rags747]

You forget that the Great Jimmy did have different rules for great players. That is one of the things that was so special about him. He knew who his warriors were.

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

There is already a pretty good thread started on this exact topic, come join the fun! lol I'm not a huge Tiki fan either and really not said to see him go. Obviously I won't miss him playing against us twice a year though.

 

[Juke99]

He is as phony as they come.

 

[arglebargle]

Well, Caughlin is well known for working his players hard, and, generally being a hard arse anyway! So what?

I'm sure there is no love lost between him and a whole hell of alot of players...

Coughlin deserves every punch he gets. You never see a fromer player from a Coughlin team coming back to work for him. Players are just interchangeable slabs of meat to him.

Tiki may be a bit prideful and ambitious, but that is also what brung 'im there. Once he figured out how to hold on to the ball, he was a dangerous player, and he consistently gave the Cowboys fits. I am very happy that he is moving on to something else. If he doesn't fall sway to the 'fumbles' of the new profession, I am sure he will do a bang up job there as well.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

My guess is it was taken out of context. I didnt hear or read the interview in part or whole, so to be fair.

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

He is as phony as they come.

You nailed it bro. That is what gets me going about him.. He puts on this nice tidy facade for the public, and somehow he is able to continue selling it, even when he has shown how much of a jerk he is.

 

[Rampage]

My guess is it was taken out of context. I didnt hear or read the interview in part or whole, so to be fair.

tiki has a big mouth. plus he's a quiter

 

[JawsJaws]

There's alot of things I didn't like that Tiki has said. I don't understand why they make him out to be such a great guy. He has big head too (egotistical and his cranium)

 

[Gordon]

I used to like Tiki a lot but his comments over the last couple of years have rubbed me the wrong way multiple times.

tiki=big mouth quiter

LoL, get a grip. He's not obligated to play. He's financially set and doesn't want to be like Earl Campbell in 15 years. I guess if you hit the mega millions you'll keep your job?