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YoMick;1379067 said:
Regardless.

Tiki most recent history(albeit NOT entire history) like there is much difference IS... he throws his coach under bus numerous times a year.... and complete coaching staff as a whole...

Its ok... justify Tiki's because its more recent history and not his entire history.... splitting hairs...

Try being fair?.... try be reasonable is more like it...
Tiki is a POS

I did I said what Tiki did was wrong and I'll say what Shockey did was wrong and Burress and Strahan. Now guys like Tiki and Strahan over their careers have not been troubled players causing problems that does not make what they did or said right but yes I will look at a person who makes a mistake different than a guy who is constantly making mistakes or in this case shooting their mouth off. Problem I see is how quick some are to come down on Tiki yet bend over backwards to justify what TO does or says and end up blaming it on someone else. According to the TO fan club the guy has never caused problems or said any thing wrong. You’re very quick to defend any and every thing he does or says. Lastly if Tiki is a POS as you said then what the heck does that make TO?
 

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Doomsday101;1379073 said:
I did I said what Tiki did was wrong and I'll say what Shockey did was wrong and Burress and Strahan. Now guys like Tiki and Strahan over their careers have not been troubled players causing problems that does not make what they did or said right but yes I will look at a person who makes a mistake different than a guy who is constantly making mistakes or in this case shooting their mouth off. Problem I see is how quick some are to come down on Tiki yet bend over backwards to justify what TO does or says and end up blaming it on someone else. According to the TO fan club the guy has never caused problems or said any thing wrong. You’re very quick to defend any and every thing he does or says. Lastly if Tiki is a POS as you said then what the heck does that make TO?


I dont know if you are refering to me... but I have held TO accountable many times... I have read both sides of story and sometimes it is both parties involved... he has done much wrong or went about it the wrong many times... with that said... he really hasnt done anything bad in Dallas...

whereas Tiki is consistently dogging on HIS coaches... in my eyes Tiki retired a few years ago...because he has been talking like a mediot for about that long... calling out coaches after a game... during a season...

Difference is... TO is honest... Tiki is a whiner... looking for scapegoat
 

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YoMick;1379109 said:
I dont know if you are refering to me... but I have held TO accountable many times... I have read both sides of story and sometimes it is both parties involved... he has done much wrong or went about it the wrong many times... with that said... he really hasnt done anything bad in Dallas...

whereas Tiki is consistently dogging on HIS coaches... in my eyes Tiki retired a few years ago...because he has been talking like a mediot for about that long... calling out coaches after a game... during a season...

Difference is... TO is honest... Tiki is a whiner... looking for scapegoat

TO was being honest but Tiki wasn't?, that is too fricken funny. Thanks for proving the point that you will make excuses for TO. You will talk crud about other players but because TO wears a Cowboy uniform you look the other way.
 

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Doomsday101;1379116 said:
TO was being honest but Tiki wasn't?, that is too fricken funny. Thanks for proving the point that you will make excuses for TO. You will talk crud about other players but because TO wears a Cowboy uniform you look the other way.


No... whats funny is that the players complained from day 1 about Coughlin and his disclipine. There was nothing wrong with anything I heard about his methods. The fact that they were crying from day 1 should tell you something about the substance of the team. Coughlin had a good team in jacksonville and his methods worked there...

Complaining because he wanted people to meeting 5-10 minutes early... that is some really sissy-"stuff".. the reason why the most successfull managers and delegators have GREAT success is because of simple things like that.... all that meant is that a 10:00am meeting would start on time.... not at 10:10am.... or have guys walking in at 10:00am....

Coughlin never had a chance... the team threw him under bus from day 1.... the person that suffered most from this was Eli.... the QB needs to have organization and structure... the coach aimed for it... and the players shot it down.. the inmates started running the asylum....
 

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YoMick;1379456 said:
No... whats funny is that the players complained from day 1 about Coughlin and his disclipine. There was nothing wrong with anything I heard about his methods. The fact that they were crying from day 1 should tell you something about the substance of the team. Coughlin had a good team in jacksonville and his methods worked there...

Complaining because he wanted people to meeting 5-10 minutes early... that is some really sissy-"stuff".. the reason why the most successfull managers and delegators have GREAT success is because of simple things like that.... all that meant is that a 10:00am meeting would start on time.... not at 10:10am.... or have guys walking in at 10:00am....

Coughlin never had a chance... the team threw him under bus from day 1.... the person that suffered most from this was Eli.... the QB needs to have organization and structure... the coach aimed for it... and the players shot it down.. the inmates started running the asylum....

Tiki complaint according to the article had nothing to do with that.
 

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Doomsday101;1379465 said:
Tiki complaint according to the article had nothing to do with that.


It stems from the origin.

As I explained... I was refering to the coach and players as a whole and during the duration of Coughlin's time there...
 

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YoMick;1379489 said:
It stems from the origin.

As I explained... I was refering to the coach and players as a whole and during the duration of Coughlin's time there...

The complaint is not one made by Tiki. How Burress feels or Shockey feel has nothing to do with Tiki. Tiki was upset because despite feeling the pains after games Coughlin would ride him hard in practice. Now is Tiki right? In Tiki mind he is telling the truth just as TO is telling the truth in his mind. Both however are wrong mouthing off to the media about things that have no place in the media. It does nothing but cause un-needed distractions for the team.
 

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Doomsday101;1379500 said:
The complaint is not one made by Tiki. How Burress feels or Shockey feel has nothing to do with Tiki. Tiki was upset because despite feeling the pains after games Coughlin would ride him hard in practice. Now is Tiki right? In Tiki mind he is telling the truth just as TO is telling the truth in his mind. Both however are wrong mouthing off to the media about things that have no place in the media. It does nothing but cause un-needed distractions for the team.


Doom... I really like our exchanges... two hard headed cowboys fans.... all good...LOL

BUT... I stand my post.... the way things started with Coughlin coming on board and the team complaining from day 1 allowed Tiki to start the mess he started... if the team was in line and not running the asylum then Tiki never says boo... which goes with your saying Tiki wasnt always like that... TO was... there is a difference right there... TO was honest and not a coward about it...

Notice how Eli doesnt make those comments... the guy needs structure and order to be successful... Tiki hampered that...
 

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YoMick;1379530 said:
Doom... I really like our exchanges... two hard headed cowboys fans.... all good...LOL

BUT... I stand my post.... the way things started with Coughlin coming on board and the team complaining from day 1 allowed Tiki to start the mess he started... if the team was in line and not running the asylum then Tiki never says boo... which goes with your saying Tiki wasnt always like that... TO was... there is a difference right there... TO was honest and not a coward about it...

Notice how Eli doesnt make those comments... the guy needs structure and order to be successful... Tiki hampered that...

But you’re saying team and lumping that all on Tiki. As I said Tiki was wrong for talking while a member of the team. What he does or says now I don't have much of a problem with because he is not a part of the team. When you are part of a team guys need to shut their trap on things that will only cause distraction for the team. You have a problem with the coach then be a man and deal with it talk with the coach behind closed doors don't stand up on your soap box to the media there is nothing good that will ever come from that. As for TO ripping into the WR coach or pouting to the media about how he does not get the ball while it may be justified in his mind it still serves no purpose and only caused distraction as he stands on his soap box. His history as a player is full of these examples and that is why he has the reputation that he currently has. Believe me I think Shockey is as big of a punk as TO is as well as Randy Moss and I would say that about any of these guys regardless of the uniform they wore.
 
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