Time To Be Realistic

[Aven8]

1. They have Aaron Rodgers?

2. How do think those two would do without Gronk and Brady?

No Brady is the best. Check the rings! They would be fine because they went out and got a good drafted backup, and they have the best coach in the league!

 

[coogrfan]

Dallas D was mostly on the field because they couldn't get a stop, not because of the O.

3 plays, 4 yds punt
7 plays 29 yds punt
3 plays -2 yds punt
6 plays, 21 yds turn over on downs

Nothing happens in isolation. The D got wore out because the O couldn't sustain a drive.

 

[LocimusPrime]

• All of or players look so good in training camp. You can see all these posts about jack Crawford, Russell, lavar Edwards, bishop ect. The reality is that they are really not that good against NFL starters.
• Two of our DEs are undersized. Lawrence and Gregory. About 25 years ago Tony Tolbert played DE at 270 lbs, that's when players where also a little smaller by today's standards. They cannot be effective at that weight, and will be more susceptible to injuries.
• We need a real running back. Not a third down/ scat back type. One that can keep the chains moving and deliver some hurt.
• Miles Austin is better than Williams.
• Street doesn't pass the eye test for a productive receiver.
• Freeman owned Wilcox today
• A hobbled Julio jones is still a hard cover for our secondary.
• We stacked the box against freeman on several 3rd down plays and he ran though us.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Both sides of the ball need to step up games are 4 quarters not a half and that's all we got out of the offense that continues throwing underneath to the backs. The D got gassed after playing well at times in the first half. The D had some nice stops in the first half but wore down in the second half. There's clearly issues stopping the run which was a problem in preseason and it's carried over to the regular season in 2 of our first 3 games.

Dude, 28 points is stepping up for the O with no Romo and Dez.

 

[KJJ]

true but I mean our offense did put up 28 points... you would expect the defense to hold on at least 1 or 2 drives in the second half

Unfortunately all 28 of our points came in the first half. The offense did nothing in the second half and our D got worn down. The Cowboys had trouble sustaining a drive in the second half and I said in the 3rd quarter during the game chat the D is going to get gassed. The Cowboys are a very undermanned team right now and it's going to be tough winning a game without Romo. The D does have issues vs the run we've seen that in 2 of our first 3 games. If the Cowboys lose next week they're going to be in real trouble. It may be awhile before their next win if they can't beat the Saints especially without Brees. .

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Coleman , bishop , jack Crawford are all pretty bad .

 

[KJJ]

Dude, the offense put up ZERO points in the second half. You have to play 4 quarters especially against a team with a top 10 QB and an elite WR.

 

[CrownCowboy]

I enjoyed the 2-0 start. Over the last week I have been very optimistic about what could happen with this team and was convinced that if we could just win a few games while Romo and Dez and our defensive guys were out that we could make a run at the end of the season.

It all hit me like a ton of bricks today. We aren't going to win with what we have right now and it is going to cost us the season. It's just as simple as that.

I really believe that if we had a healthy team, we could make a run for the number 1 seed. Unfortunately that's not the case. Hopefully next year we can avoid the massive injury curse that has taken our season this year.

In the meantime, hopefully we can get to 8-8 this year and build on it for a healthy next season.

 

[xwalker]

I know he's a DE, i'm saying even when we had the report that he wouldn't play some felt that Coleman would do a good enough job replacing McClain that we could get by with using someone else at DE. Mincey being there would've helped Coleman out tremendously.

Marinelli's scheme is based on players being able to go all out when they are in the game because he assures them that they will be well rested; however, that was not possible today.

I didn't notice any significant problems with Coleman/Bishop. There was one running play that Bishop appeared to lose sight of the ball carrier but otherwise they looked OK. I'll review them later on the All-22 but I don't think they were a problem. Hayden did have a couple of great deflections but he also got easily blocked out and several run plays. I do think they missed T. McClain but not nearly as much as they missed Mincey.

It was really all about the DEs. Lawrence had to play too many snaps. Jack Crawford had bulked up too much from last season to really be a DE. Russell looked a bit lost at times which is not surprising considering that it was his 1st game active. I knew they were in trouble when the 6', 240 LB Wilson was lined up as a Strong Side DE.

The timing of the injuries is what really sucks. If Mincey and Gregory had been injured in game 5 or later, they would have had Hardy there. Hopefully, Mincey is back to 100% next week. I had hoped that Gregory's ankle might be ahead of schedule, but Stephen Jones said this week that he didn't expect him until after the bye.

I feel like they would have won this game if Mincey and Gregory were available and at 100%.

 

[xwalker]

Sean Lee is really the heart of the defense. If he goes down, we fall apart. Hopefully he stays healthy and Rolando can take some pressure off of him.

The D-line got destroyed today but it's hard to blame them considering almost everyone was out. Let's hope Hardy is how he was in Carolina and that Gregory is the prodigy he appeared to be. Mincey is a solid player but not a star, Lawrence is young and still hasn't proven himself yet, T. Crawford is good but no Aaron Donald. Let's see how good this D-line is when everyone is healthy.

This season (even when Romo comes back) really rests on how good our O-line and D-line can be. Both looked awful today. D-line had their excuse but O-line didn't. It's gonna be a tough 7 games before Romo comes back. We need 3-4 wins if we want to still have a shot at winning the division. A Brees-less Saints and Bucs games should be winnable.

This was the 1st game where I thought that RoMc would have made a big difference. There were a couple of plays where Hitchens almost made a good play but was just out-muscled a little bit.

 

[Kevinicus]

3 plays, 4 yds punt
7 plays 29 yds punt
3 plays -2 yds punt
6 plays, 21 yds turn over on downs

Nothing happens in isolation. The D got wore out because the O couldn't sustain a drive.

The D was poor the entire game, not just the 2nd half. They made ine stop the 2nd half...because of penalties.

 

[sideon]

Marinelli's scheme is based on players being able to go all out when they are in the game because he assures them that they will be well rested; however, that was not possible today.

I didn't notice any significant problems with Coleman/Bishop. There was one running play that Bishop appeared to lose sight of the ball carrier but otherwise they looked OK. I'll review them later on the All-22 but I don't think they were a problem. Hayden did have a couple of great deflections but he also got easily blocked out and several run plays. I do think they missed T. McClain but not nearly as much as they missed Mincey.

It was really all about the DEs. Lawrence had to play too many snaps. Jack Crawford had bulked up too much from last season to really be a DE. Russell looked a bit lost at times which is not surprising considering that it was his 1st game active. I knew they were in trouble when the 6', 240 LB Wilson was lined up as a Strong Side DE.

The timing of the injuries is what really sucks. If Mincey and Gregory had been injured in game 5 or later, they would have had Hardy there. Hopefully, Mincey is back to 100% next week. I had hoped that Gregory's ankle might be ahead of schedule, but Stephen Jones said this week that he didn't expect him until after the bye.

I feel like they would have won this game if Mincey and Gregory were available and at 100%.

I feel like this game would've been different if we just had Mincey, he's very good against the run which is what we desperately needed today. Next week can't end fast enough and i'll feel better if we beat the Saints, they don't have a Julio and their receivers are basically feast or famine.

 

[kramskoi]

I hope people finally realize how important the starters are on both sides of the ball now. All i heard was we have Coleman & Bishop so we're going to be okay, but the reality is Coleman & Bishop are nowhere near the player Mincey is and his absence was extremely noticeable today. Our starting D-Line would've abused the Falcons but there's only so much you can ask of this depleted team. If Weeden had Dez then the Falcons couldn't crowd the line like they did today. I say we sit Mcfadden and start Michael because we need a bruising back for 3rd & short.

In my experience? Too many suzie-happy fans. Like Jerry Jones on Weeden. The current dallas d-line is arguably as depleted as the 2013 version. Minus 4 substantial players today. The rotation was clearly less effective, especially given the "offensive" production in the second half...pun indeed intended.

 

[xvendettax914]

The D ws awful. No question.

But if we want to be realistic.......... this team is not winning a single game with Weeden. Not a one. That's just reality.

Weeden? That's where the blame goes? Wow.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Look, we have a chance at winning next week. Rob Ryan's defense in New Orleans SUCKS. Drew Brees might actually be better for us if his shoulder isn't 100% because McCown looked pretty good today. If we can manage to play like we did in the 1st quarter, we can beat the Saints.

 

[VACowboy]

I disagree with everyone saying we can't win a game with Weeden. If the defense isn't historically bad in the second half we win this game.

The offense played some part in that. The O didn't move the ball at all in the final two quarters.

I agree that the team can win with Weeden, though.

 

[sbark]

Coleman , bishop , jack Crawford are all pretty bad .

Yup.....if a stud 1-tech is sitting there in the draft, gotta look hard, even if its not a "priority position",..........if you cannot stuff a run game the D collapses around that fact.
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That is a taste of what we did to teams last year......ran it up a orifice, and hit Dez on demand.

 

[black label]

 

[windward]

Cowboyszone after a loss is just really really precious.

 

[movaughn88]

I enjoyed the 2-0 start. Over the last week I have been very optimistic about what could happen with this team and was convinced that if we could just win a few games while Romo and Dez and our defensive guys were out that we could make a run at the end of the season.

It all hit me like a ton of bricks today. We aren't going to win with what we have right now and it is going to cost us the season. It's just as simple as that.

I really believe that if we had a healthy team, we could make a run for the number 1 seed. Unfortunately that's not the case. Hopefully next year we can avoid the massive injury curse that has taken our season this year.

In the meantime, hopefully we can get to 8-8 this year and build on it for a healthy next season.

I think this smart post sums up everyone's rantings and ravings and gnashings today. I think this guy is being a realist. Not someone who's bashing what we have. I'm usually a "homer" but this is exactly how I feel. Because the pieces were there. A run was in the cards, and after all that's all we are here for. But it just didn't work out, we've lost our king and a knight before many pawns were even put into play.

Today we realized it's gonna be a slog. Maybe we win some under this cloud, but it will take a big effort to win from here on out, this won't be like last year. We aren't built to lose our starting QB and WR, and to be honest not many teams could handle it other than those built around the defensive side of the ball.

I think CrownC (I'll have one tonight, sir) is a little pessimistic in his record prediction, but at this point our best hope is a scrum for 10-6 or something similar to get into the playoffs. Take your pick of the pinwheel of terrible QBs we can throw behind center, we lost a top 5 one and there's only about 15-20 in this league that are worth their salt, and they weren't available this offseason as a backup.