Time to move on from Terence Steele

[Mr_437]

POST-6/1 RELEASE​

2025 Dead Cap: $4,125,000
2026 Dead Cap: $9,375,000
2025 Savings: $14,000,000

Yikes, 2026

 

[ChronicCowboy]

Yes, but they kept Elliott around until the guaranteed salary was paid out. That’s the big factor, not the dead money. Sometimes folks confuse dead money as salary still being owed to the player. That’s not the case. Not saying you’re doing that, I don’t know, but keep in mind they kept a lame duck staff rather than eat about half of what Steele still has coming to him in cash salary.

They owe him 13.25 million for next season whether he is here or not. Plus they like him, and don’t easily admit mistakes.

I personally don’t think he is any good and never did. Not as if I’m pining to keep him. I just don’t see them cutting him with that guarantee in place. After next season, different story but I’d put it well over 90% that he is here in 2025.

Dude you’re the one that’s confused

 

[Sheepherder]

They aren’t haunting the franchise
All teams have these issues
We just won’t spend money … we’ve got plenty of cap money sitting around this year and will next year I am sure

Ticket sales should come to a screeching halt. Only thing that's going to work. People normally get sick and tired of being sick and tired.

 

[SlammedZero]

Most of the coaches are going to leave after big Mike is let go.

Solari might be hated here, but he has been in the NFL many years. I think he has the Ring also.

Goes a long way.

His ring is from 1994. After that he has jumped around the NFL. The Oline definitely has regressed since he got here IMO. While he may not have a row of killers on his Oline, he hasn't proved he can coach enough to overcome it.

 

[fivetwos]

Dude you’re the one that’s confused

First, I’m not your “dude.”

Secondly, I made sure to say that I don’t know if you’re thinking that way.

But if you like, feel free to tell me how I’m “confused” about an opinion as to when and if a player may be cut.

The facts on the contract situation aren’t wrong.

 

[ChronicCowboy]

First, I’m not your “dude.”

Secondly, I made sure to say that I don’t know if you’re thinking that way.

But if you like, feel free to tell me how I’m “confused” about an opinion as to when and if a player may be cut.

The facts on the contract situation aren’t wrong.

…ok my chick. You act like you have knowledge about the contract situation but did no research…you just accused others of being confused. Sorry I set you straight.

 

[Eddie]

Cut Steele, move Guyton to RT, move Smith to LT, draft an OG, retire Martin, replace OG with a vet.

 

[fivetwos]

…ok my chick. You act like you have knowledge about the contract situation but did no research…you just accused others of being confused. Sorry I set you straight.

What research didn’t I do and how do you know that I didn’t?

You set me straight on absolutely nothing. I didn’t “accuse” anyone of anything. There are several people that say things like a player is still “owed XX in dead money.” That happens, and I never specifically called anyone out on it, or insulted them over it…. you included.

Really, what are you actually saying? What facts do I have wrong about that contract, or about anything within this topic?

 

[ChronicCowboy]

What research didn’t I do and how do you know that I didn’t?

You set me straight on absolutely nothing. I didn’t “accuse” anyone of anything. There are several people that say things like a player is still “owed XX in dead money.” That happens, and I never specifically called anyone out on it, or insulted them over it…. you included.

Really, what are you actually saying? What facts do I have wrong about that contract, or about anything within this topic?

You said that dead money has nothing to do with guaranteed salary. You’re wrong.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

His base $$ has been low.

It ramps up to 13M in 2025.

He’s gonna get cut.

the challenge is that Jerry won't do it and will spin.

if he gets cut next year he carries a 19.5M dead cap hit. to jerry and stephen, that would mean they would have already paid for the RT position, now they have to go get somebody else and even an average one would cost 7-10M range and he is not going to pay twice for the same position. we have a tendency to keep players to the end of their contracts to minimize dead cap (money paid out) and not have to pay again for another player to replace them. we are 29th in the league in dead cap space. just look at the last few years, Biadasz, knowing he needed repalced. Pollard, Tyron, martin going down the same path, LVE, and so on...

we know players lack, they are past their prime, etc. yet we keep them to the end of the contract. Jerry also does the same thing with coaches, his comment about coaches dead money was very telling.....he did it with Garrett and now with MM and that's 15 years of futility.

 

[Cmac]

Did Tony Romo ever have an offensive roster like this? No dig intended, just curious of what my fellow poster would say. Let's start from 2005 when he was a full-time starter.
Relax......no dig on Tony Romo, just curious.

 

[fivetwos]

You said that dead money has nothing to do with guaranteed salary. You’re wrong.

If I said that, which I cannot find…and doubt I did, I would have been wrong. Guaranteed money is how you end up with dead money eventually. They are related, but there’s a difference between unpaid guaranteed salary (cash) and dead money counting toward the cap.

In the case of Steele, part of that guarantee is next years salary, which is 13.25 million. So while it’s structured to where there would be an actual cap savings if released, they are paying him those game checks regardless. My original point is it doesn’t really sound like something this FO would be inclined to do.

Elliotts deal (the example you used) was structured the same way for the first four years. He was not released until he was no longer guaranteed game checks for the following season. They were no longer paying him weekly during the season, but the dead money that counted against the cap kicked in. They are indeed related, but not the exact same thing, with the largest difference being guaranteed money that the player has not yet received.

I don’t to tell people how to behave, but maybe consider knocking it off with the insults. No need.

 

[Ironicalicon]

The right side seems to be a problem right now, How these coaches don't help these tackles against star rushers is baffling.

They do give them help but not nearly often enough. Maybe *10-15% of the time? Should be closer to 40-50%

 

[Blast From The Past]

Most of the coaches are going to leave after big Mike is let go.

Solari might be hated here, but he has been in the NFL many years. I think he has the Ring also.

Goes a long way.

Yes, living on past reputation is the reason we keep this clown? This line has been horrible under his tutelage.

 

[krs1bro]

The issue is money and Jerry actually willing to find an upgrade at the position. Is Steele a very good RT? No. Is he at least on the lower end of starting quality? Yes. Is Jerry going to actually go sign a better player in free agency? I doubt it. Is he going to move Tyler Smith to T which is the more expensive position right before he signs an extension? I doubt it. Is he going to cut a player with $50M in guaranteed money who he has only paid half of that to? Highly doubtful.

I think we are stuck with Steele for another year, probably two.

Yikes!!! JJ Pease sell this team and go do whatever you do.

 

[TexasBacon]

@ this point....I would roll with Bass in the line up...

LT- Smith
LG- Bass
C- Beebe
RG- Martin
RT- Guyton

I'd even consider sitting Guyton and kicking Martin out to RT

LT- Smith
LG - Beebe
C - Hoffman
RG - Bass
RT - Martin

Beebe has been moving people but he's really struggled to snap the ball and get to his assignment. Hoffman was pushing hard for the C job in the offseason and is mentally sound and might be a great improvement. Let Beebe just focus on hitting people and moving them. Additionally, Bass has shown to be significantly better at RG more than LG. I know it's impractical to think they would move essentially the entire line, but the tackles are getting us killed and Beebe always picks the worst times to not pick up the right guy.

All this is just wishful thinking. They won't change anything.

 

[Chasing6]

I think he’s still struggling with his knee recovery

Agree with moving on from Martin though - shell of his former self and a warrior and all time great

O-Line is a bigger issue than what has been discussed

Can’t block and can’t pass protect - I hear those can impact your offenses effectiveness

Martin will not play next year for $1.25M base salary. He will retire, unless someone wants to trade for him and extend him.

 

[DuncanIso]

Martin will not play next year for $1.25M base salary. He will retire, unless someone wants to trade for him and extend him.

He likely has a bad back. Won’t get fixed until the off sessson.

He’s gonna leave. Has voided years on his deal.

Will make mega UFA millions somewhere else.

 

[Chasing6]

He likely has a bad back. Won’t get fixed until the off sessson.

He’s gonna leave. Has voided years on his deal.

Will make mega UFA millions somewhere else.

No he will not. He is under contract.

Has to retire or be traded. Unless we cut him.

 

[DuncanIso]

His ring is from 1994. After that he has jumped around the NFL. The Oline definitely has regressed since he got here IMO. While he may not have a row of killers on his Oline, he hasn't proved he can coach enough to overcome it.

Three decades of jumping around.

anyone who has coached OL that long in the NFL understands the game.

I get the Solari hate, but the problems are bigger than the OL coach.